Protests and Street Violence 2021

[NT2C]

If you think we left all this stuff behind in 2020 and after the election was over, think again. It's not even quite spring yet and here we go...





Your goal, as a prepper, is not to get tangled up in such scenes and to stay out of harm's way. That is not to say you cannot or should not let your voice be heard if there are causes and issues you're passionate about. It is to say that you should exercise caution and good judgment when doing so and put your own safety and the safety of your loved ones as your first priority.

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[emclean]

Just wait till it gets warm, and campaign promises are ignored.

keep you r heads down out there, we are all in for a bumpy ride.

[the_alias]

Speaking to a colleague in Portland area it seems those people didn't stop once - continual low level disturbances.

It will only get worse as the weather warms up in the rest of the country.

[Blast]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

[NT2C]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

Be cautious about it though, and familiarize yourself with federal, state, and local laws that might come into play. For instance, in some parts of the country (looking at you NYC) just having a scanner in the vehicle requires a permit, and can get some pretty serious charges laid against you.

The solution to this, of course, is to become a licensed ham as federal trumps state and local.

[woodsghost]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

Be cautious about it though, and familiarize yourself with federal, state, and local laws that might come into play. For instance, in some parts of the country (looking at you NYC) just having a scanner in the vehicle requires a permit, and can get some pretty serious charges laid against you.

The solution to this, of course, is to become a licensed ham as federal trumps state and local.

Not to get political, but I think we are seeing a contesting of the idea that "Federal trumps Local/State." I don't know how all this will shake out. But just something to be aware of.

In case anyone is confused, I'm talking about the wide array of "sanctuary" statuses in the US. And I might be misunderstanding something on the legal front, so I can be corrected.

[woodsghost]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

This is interesting to me. I don't know what the most useful choice would be. My local 2M repeater was active when we had some railroad equipment break down and traffic was backed up for a few miles. But when we had a few riots last year the repeater was pretty quiet.

I assume the best choice would be to find out what is most active in one's local area. I would expect some places to be most active on CB, some to be most active on ham (140 or 440?), some might be most active on GMRS, and those are just my guesses. I would guess it might make sense to just scan FRS frequencies. I don't know what social disrupters usually use. I'm betting it is cell apps.

[NT2C]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

Be cautious about it though, and familiarize yourself with federal, state, and local laws that might come into play. For instance, in some parts of the country (looking at you NYC) just having a scanner in the vehicle requires a permit, and can get some pretty serious charges laid against you.

The solution to this, of course, is to become a licensed ham as federal trumps state and local.

Not to get political, but I think we are seeing a contesting of the idea that "Federal trumps Local/State." I don't know how all this will shake out. But just something to be aware of.

In case anyone is confused, I'm talking about the wide array of "sanctuary" statuses in the US. And I might be misunderstanding something on the legal front, so I can be corrected.

My point was that FCC regs pre-empt state and local regs. Most states also give an exemption for hams the same as given for law enforcement when it comes to mobile use of a handheld electronic device.

[Blast]

Be cautious about it though, and familiarize yourself with federal, state, and local laws that might come into play. For instance, in some parts of the country (looking at you NYC) just having a scanner in the vehicle requires a permit, and can get some pretty serious charges laid against you.

The solution to this, of course, is to become a licensed ham as federal trumps state and local.

Good point! I wonder what the legality is of police scanner phone apps such as 5-0 Radio or Police Scanner Plus in those states? Can you get in trouble just for having the app on your phone?

During the limited riots in Houston I found my CB radio and the Houston EMS dispatch frequency (460.5750) to be the most useful. Note, I am a licensed shortwave radio operator and have programed my radios to not broadcast on that or other emergency frequencies.
-Blast

[emclean]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

just remember to try it out during the calm. i set up a CB in my car in mid October, and found that there was nobody on the frequencies. it gave me time to test out another option before i thought i was going to need it.

[Blast]

just remember to try it out during the calm. i set up a CB in my car in mid October, and found that there was nobody on the frequencies. it gave me time to test out another option before i thought i was going to need it.

Yes, very good point. Also people need to be aware that CBs are like rifles/scopes...for best results you should spend as much (or more!) on the antenna as you did on the CB. There are some fine CBs for under $50 and good antennas for around the same price. But you also need to tune the antenna (micro adjustments to the antennas length) for optimal performance. Check out some YouTube videos to learn more.
-Blast

[NT2C]

Derek Chauvin trial: Minneapolis businesses prepare for new round of potential riots

[Blast]

Derek Chauvin trial: Minneapolis businesses prepare for new round of potential riots

Any city that ISN'T prepping for this may find itself in a world of hurt.
-Blast, still bitter about the burning of Uncle Hugo's Science Fiction Bookstore

[tony d tiger]

This is a good argument for having some sort of CB, shortwave radio, or a police scanner app on while you're driving so you can be alerted to potential hotspots.
-Blast

I heard some protest groups "key in" on radios (pun intended) - targeting vehicles with obvious capabilities for direct action.

Definitely need to maintain situational awareness to avoid being caught up in traffic stoppages whether caused by protests or other criminal activities.

[boskone]

Did I miss something, or was the much-dreaded Thursday protest a big nadaburger?

[MPMalloy]

Did I miss something, or was the much-dreaded Thursday protest a big nadaburger?

You are correct Sir!

[RoneKiln]

The rioting never really stopped in the Seattle area. It's a lot smaller scale and less frequent, but it seems at least half a dozen businesses get torn up every week. People I know in Portland say the same thing.

I can't find any direct evidence for the concern over last Thursday. There might have been some serious trash talking from a specific forum/social media group or two that might have given the feds legitimate concerns and the MSM poorly represented.

[tony d tiger]

The rioting never really stopped in the Seattle area. It's a lot smaller scale and less frequent, but it seems at least half a dozen businesses get torn up every week. People I know in Portland say the same thing.

I can't find any direct evidence for the concern over last Thursday. There might have been some serious trash talking from a specific forum/social media group or two that might have given the feds legitimate concerns and the MSM poorly represented.

The message doesn't fit the narrative... so "interested parties" are forced to seek out information on alternative media - hence the popularity of various Twitter "journalists" and their slanted views.

I wouldn't mistake the lack of news in MSM for a lack of interest by DOJ and other agencies/nations with intelligence collection capabilities though.

[woodsghost]

Did I miss something, or was the much-dreaded Thursday protest a big nadaburger?

This, sir, is my preferred Thursday excitement level.

We will see how things progress. Hopefully things are settled quietly. We will see.

[boskone]

Did I miss something, or was the much-dreaded Thursday protest a big nadaburger?

This, sir, is my preferred Thursday excitement level.

We will see how things progress. Hopefully things are settled quietly. We will see.

I rather expect the news will continue to be mostly quiet, with a few false starts.

[NT2C]

West Coast cities erupt in violence

This is going to be a long year.

[tony d tiger]

West Coast cities erupt in violence

This is going to be a long year.

More relevant is your earlier warning on doxxing. It's been made pretty clear that elements outside of LEO also collect intelligence on crowds, following individuals to/from vehicles to gather registration and derive addresses - consolidating dossiers over time for later comparison, research and/or dissemination.

Not an organization, indeed.

[NT2C]

There's some really sick, sick people out there: https://i.imgur.com/SeGW9EB.jpg

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

There's some really sick, sick people out there: https://i.imgur.com/SeGW9EB.jpg

Sadly, this isn't anything new. Sick, twisted people have existed for thousands of years.

Thanks to social media and the internet in general, they're just more visible nowadays.