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FS: Custom Built Rigger Belts- COBRA, V-ring, and CCW belt

Postby chute43 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:27 am

For the past year, I have been selling these Smokejumper/Rigger belts. I am a firefighter and for years these were very popular but hard to get. Several of the fire and logging outfitters sold them made of low grade webbing and they were overpriced. The only way to get a real one made from real parachute harness webbing was to have a smokejumper or a military rigger build you one.

Mine are made from Mil-spec 4088 resin coated Parachute harness webbing.

As seen on Mil-spec monkey Review click here

I have two sizes one sizes fits most (50" long) and one sizes fits the rest(65" long)

They are not intended for life safety applications so please no rappelling. Even though the sewing the is top notch and the webbing (6000 lbs)and buckle(2500lbs) are extremely strong, the belt is not rated for those applications.

Two different optiont to purchase

1) My Ebay site-Ebay Site LinkOn Ebay these sell for 17.00 plus 4.00 to ship USPS first class with delivery confirmation.

2)You email me direct chute43@yahoo.com , I can send you a paypal invoice for 16.00 plus 4.00 to ship USPS first class with delivery confirmation

I will also discount the price for each belt for orders of 5 or more, only outside of ebay, through paypal though

Multiple belt orders ship USPS priority mail flat rate envelope for orders up to 6 belts more than that, I ship USPS Flat rate boxes for basically the same price they charge.

International Order ship USPS priority mail international flat rate envelope, and I only charge what USPS charges me

My ebay store

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#1-Black with Black Buckle
#2-Black with Silver Buckle
#3-Navy Blue with Silver Buckle
#4-Navy Blue with Black Buckle
#5-Sage Green with Black Buckle
#6-OD Green with Black Buckle
#7-Dark Brown with Black Buckle
#8-Dark Brown with Silver Buckle
#9-Coyote Brown with Black Buckle
#10-Khaki (sand) with Black Buckle
#11-Foliage Green with Black Buckle

The Deck Belt or the V-ring Riggers belt

Consider this to be the Smokejumper belt on steroids, designed for those need a stiffer version of the smokejumper belt. Constructed from 2 layers of Type 7 webbing and a third layer of smaller mil spec webbing sandwiched in between to stiffen the width of the belt, bonded together with industrial glue then the edges are double stitched with #138 nylon bonded thread and generous amount of Velcro secures the free end. I originally built these for commercial divers who needed a heavy duty belt while working on deck, but have increased in popularity with IDPA shooters and those carrying a concealed weapon. I am currently building these built around the customers waist size but I should have four sizes in the near future. I am build these generally in any color you see the smokejumper listed in.

These are 25.00 each plus shipping which in CONUS is 5.25 for USPS priority mail with delivery confirmation.

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As my hobby/business has grown I have expanded the number of belts that I build. More from the wildland fire community , The airlock belt. As the story goes USFS smokejumpers would remove the seatbelts from their jump planes, and fashion belts from them. These are pretty rare. They aren’t really good for CCW but very unique , and durable.
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25.00 plus 4.00 to ship. These will require an actual measurement of your waist line at the level you wear your pants, as always please don’t rely on a pants sizing


Next at some request from customers came the Cobra Gun belt, same three layer sewn/laminated design suitable for CCW. The buckles are a little big and generally require them to be threaded like a normal riggers belt, but once in your pants you can utilize the click portion. The cobra buckle weighs 4 ounces has a very smooth action and 2500lb rating.

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Gun Belts are $50.00 plus 5.00 to ship (priority mail)

Due to more requests then came the Cobra Riggers belt.
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These are 55.00 plus 5.00 to ship priority mail

kary
thank you for looking
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby feuer » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:48 am

Considering most riggers belts are around $30+ this looks like a great deal.
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby thorian » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:06 am

Do you make these out of spiral wound webbing? You know like the webbing used for hose handlers and anchors?
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby Subdiver » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:10 am

Bought 3, review in 17 days.
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby chute43 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:01 am

thorian wrote:Do you make these out of spiral wound webbing? You know like the webbing used for hose handlers and anchors?


No I assuming you mean like tubular climbing webbing, like the stuff used in the RIT classes, or technical rescue classes(I am assuming you are a firefighter from your choice of words). That stuff is strong but way to slick to stay in the metal buckle. And I don't think a belt made from tubular webbing would last that long either. I have the same belt I used last year. And I did a 22 day assignment in northern california straight and all my belt showed was dirt.

These are made from the same webbing military and civillian parachute harnesses are made from. It is kind of stiff but does break in. The tubular style webbing tends to loosen up and doesnt keep its form. This webbing is MIL spec resin coated nylon webbing.

If you notice the contrast yellow stitching, that is used for webbing that has to be evaluated for strength like in a harness. If the webbing was over loaded the pattern of the contrast stitching would not appear uniform because the opposing color would be stretched permanently, like during a severe shock load.

Professionally I am a firefighter, but I spent 4 years with YOSAR in Yosemite valley as a SAR tech, and over 15 years of rockclimbing experience. I only add that to establish professional credibility. I dont sew these myself, I have them made by a professional sewing shop that builds some of the parachutes for the military. So it sewing pattern is perfect. By using a sewing contractor I have less time envolved in these, and he builds these in large numbers for me. I sell around 40-60 a month more during fire season. Because I don't actually have much time in these, I can offer the lower price and I turn my profit by selling so many. I frequently will outfit entire fire crews at one time, with discounts ofcourse.

I have sold over 400 of these belts around the world and everyone has been satisfied.

here are some close up photos that mil spec monkey took for me to show you the webbing close up.

The last I took to show how thick this type of webbing is by comparing it to a US Quarter, the webbing is slightly thicker.

I hope the below photos answer any questions, let me know if I can answer any more or you want to see a different angle of the webbing or buckle.

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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby feuer » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:28 am

I recognized the webbing. It's the same kind i've seen used in high angle rope rescue work, and similar to airlift cargo webbing.
Good stiff and durable material. Tough to stitch, but that comes with the territory.
You could easily use this kind of webbing for a holster belt too.
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby chute43 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:14 am

Compared to the high ange rescue rigging straps, this is a little thinner,because, they (like CMC rescue) use multiple layers or webbing but it too has the contrasting strip on the edges.

And I have seen similar belts used as gun belts but they have usually been double layered. Which I have been debating on have some made up. I am going to be making some phone calls today to a different webbing vendor and a different sewing company, I am going to get a price on making these double layered, or using a double layer combination of two different types of webbing to get the best out of both types of webbing. I will keep zombie squad posted, ofcourse.

I am also working on getting some coyote tan webbing, which I have had trouble getting in the past.

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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby feuer » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:24 am

chute43 wrote:Compared to the high ange rescue rigging straps, this is a little thinner,because, they (like CMC rescue) use multiple layers or webbing but it too has the contrasting strip on the edges.

And I have seen similar belts used as gun belts but they have usually been double layered. Which I have been debating on have some made up. I am going to be making some phone calls today to a different webbing vendor and a different sewing company, I am going to get a price on making these double layered, or using a double layer combination of two different types of webbing to get the best out of both types of webbing. I will keep zombie squad posted, ofcourse.

I am also working on getting some coyote tan webbing, which I have had trouble getting in the past.

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Good stuff.

Question; i'm not a fan of Ebay, is there any other outlet that you use?
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby chute43 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:35 am

Just tell me what you want and I can send you a detailed paypal invoice. If you want to pay through paypal or if you want to do check or money order I can do that also. Paypal is the fastest. I can have the invoice to you a little after lunch, I am on a un-secure computer right now.

what works for you? and which belt do you want?

kary

and ebay does kind of suck, I do 10-20 belt transactions a month off of ebay from return customers or through word of mouth referals. I sell a bunch to the Germany SWAT/Tactical community from some customer who reviewed my belts on a tactical website which was in german so the guys just email me direct.
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby feuer » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:43 am

Paypal works, or I can send a check, i'm not in a rush, you seem trustworthy enough for me either way.
I'm gonna wait for Subdriver's review, but I will probably get a couple belts regardless, so i'll be in touch soon.
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby chute43 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:59 am

Sounds good , here is my post over on edcforums EDC forums post which has been on going for awhile just to give you a idea of what kind of business I do. Plus in the first post you can also see the link to MIL-SPEC Monkeys review as well.

Granted I don't do this for a living full time but I do take a good amount of pride in selling these belts, especially to those who have similar interest. I am dont do it to rip someone off, I will always try and work with someone if they are unhappy, which no one has been dissatisfied with the belt, just sometimes a screw up with either customs or USPS.

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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby AmirMortal » Fri May 01, 2009 1:42 am

chute43 wrote:And I have seen similar belts used as gun belts but they have usually been double layered. Which I have been debating on have some made up.

Yes, do this.
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Re: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts

Postby chute43 » Fri May 01, 2009 2:22 am

I spent a good part of today talking to some different webbing vendors, trying to find coyote tan webbing with the same mil-spec construction. So I have a couple of good leads, should know more tomorrow. And my current sewing shop didn't seem excited about the doubled belts.

But I will keep everyone posted on the coyote tan, which has always been requested.

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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby Subdiver » Wed May 06, 2009 6:24 pm

Got laid off early, went to Texas yesterday, and opened up the belts.

First of all, I'm very happy with this purchase: I feel like the quality of the item stacks very well against the price, and Chute sent them out very quickly.

The material is quite durable, and took some pretty serious cutting with sharp scissors to trim to fit. The buckles are steel, and very heavy duty, I have seen less hardy tackle on design load lifting and securing devices. The stitchings seem to be quality, and the colors are well represented. The belt is comfortable to wear.

I'm happy with this, and will most likely buy more in the future, as I'm sure I can come up with a lot of uses for these. Thanks Chute43!
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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby chute43 » Thu May 07, 2009 6:13 pm

Subdiver,

I am glad you like them. If I had know you were going to cut them down I would have gave you a hint, from what I discovered. I use a cheap steak knife, the non-serrated type. Then lay the blade across the stove, I have electric, and wait for it to get hot. Then it will slip right through the webbing. I actually just bought actual hot knife since I will soon have 100yrds of coyote tan webbing to cut down.

The webbing is very similar to the kind used on lifting straps. From what I have gathered from talking to so many webbing vendors is that they divide each type of mil-spec webbing into two classes (class 1 and class 2) class 2 is a little rougher, strong just not smooth like the class 1 used in my belts. Class is commonly used like in crane rigging straps, heavy ratchet straps I suppose. I can be wrong but that is what one shop told me.

thank you again

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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby feuer » Fri May 08, 2009 8:29 am

Good deal - bump.

I'm going to have to delay my purchase till next month due to budget limitations*, but put me down for:
(1) Brown w/black buckle, and....
(1) Black w/black buckle
These belts have made my "new gear" list, so it's not a matter of if, but merely a matter of when.
I need to update my Paypal account since I haven't used it in a few years, but it should still work for our purposes.
Again, I appreciate the good info and the rapid responses.


*In addition to an extended weekend vaction in upstate NY collecting wine, i've also ordered over $500 in new outdoor gear this past month, so my limited budget has been slammed. I'll be clear for some new purchases in a few weeks.
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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby chute43 » Sat May 09, 2009 12:28 pm

Not a problem, I am usually stocked up on belts pretty good and if not if only takes me a week or so to get restocked. Plus still waiting on the coyote tan webbing to show up.

In the meantime here are some different photos of the belts

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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby wtr100 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:19 pm

just received mine in brown / black hardware

ordered friday am / came in the mail yesterday

good value for the $$$
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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby AmirMortal » Tue May 12, 2009 1:04 pm

Email sent!
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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby chute43 » Tue May 12, 2009 3:47 pm

Invoice and email sent, thank you

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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby Cyborg » Tue May 12, 2009 3:49 pm

Mate will you ship to the UK?
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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby chute43 » Tue May 12, 2009 7:08 pm

Cyborg wrote:Mate will you ship to the UK?


Ofcourse, I just charge you what USPS charges me, which is 12.95 for Priority Mail International to the UK. I can ship it a cheaper/slower way but I have had bad results with the packages not making it where they are supposed to. For 12.95 I can ship 6 belts at once though. So if you have others in your chapter that want a belt, I can do a group order to make the transaction cheaper for each person. I personally get a little mad at being over charged for shipping so I do my best to keep the shipping charges to the minimum.

Just let me know how many you want and your email address and I will get you a invoice(leaving out ebay) sent out to you.

So 16.00 a belt and 12.95 for shipping and USPS says that it should take 10 days but that depends also on customs, when I have shipped to the UK and Germany in the past it has been pretty quick.

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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby chute43 » Wed May 13, 2009 11:18 pm

Today I got the shipment I had been waiting on. I got my spool of tan webbing. So I am going to cut it down tonight and ship it to the sewing shop tomorrow.

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I laid it next to the OD as a comparison
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Re: FS: Smokejumper/Rigger Belts- different colors

Postby jnathan » Wed May 27, 2009 8:25 am

For those of you who remember, I've had some trouble ordering belts in the past. However, I had absolutely no problems with the belts sold by Kary. I ordered his belts in both black and OD and I think they're excellent.

The webbing is of high quality and comfortable when worn. The stitching is extremely durable and as previously stated, the buckles are very high quality steel. Plus, these belts actually look pretty good when worn. All in all, a very worthwhile purchase.

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