Homemade tent stove project in the works

[CAMOEDTJ]

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:56 am Post subject:

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This thread is oozing with win, as predicted.

Just had a question: If you had a barrel type container, like a pot or keg, would it be better to have the stove upright with a flat surface on top, or horizontal?

It seems like a lot of these cylindrical stoves are horizontal. Is there a particular reason for doing it that way as opposed to upright? Pro and cons?
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you know i thought of turning the pot on end wit the flat surface on top it would be better for cooking on but i was afraid that wit a top loaded stove that ther might be more of a chance of sparks escaping and damaging my tent since the tent material is light weight nylon..this way when the stove is on its side the sparks would hit the roof of the stove and be drafted on out the pipe rather than hitting an opening from being top loaded and going right on out of the stove and in the tent. BUT then again you might be on to something there!! mabe turn cylinder stove on end and cut the door in the side wall of cylinder and put pipe on top that was a good question CAVE MAN

[Tetra Grammaton Cleric]

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...You plan your camp stove project around it fitting in a MOLLE II Radio Pouch.

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Oh and...

Awesome thread guys. Exciting stuff.

CAMOEDTJ, you should use the quote button in the person's post you want to 'quote'. It'll make your otherwise already awesome posts even more awesomer.
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[CAMOEDTJ]

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:08 am Post subject:

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You know you're a gearwhore if...

...You plan your camp stove project around it fitting in a MOLLE II Radio Pouch.

You know who you are.



Oh and...

Awesome thread guys. Exciting stuff.

CAMOEDTJ, you should use the quote button in the person's post you want to 'quote'. It'll make your otherwise already awesome posts even more awesomer.
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thanks couldnt figure out how they did the quote thing im gonna try that i im frekin computer illerate

[CavemanSam]

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:08 am Post subject:

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You know you're a gearwhore if...

...You plan your camp stove project around it fitting in a MOLLE II Radio Pouch.

You know who you are.



Oh and...

Awesome thread guys. Exciting stuff.

CAMOEDTJ, you should use the quote button in the person's post you want to 'quote'. It'll make your otherwise already awesome posts even more awesomer.
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thanks couldnt figure out how they did the quote thing im gonna try that i im frekin computer illerate

that was so inept, it was adorable

[AltimGXE]

I'd imagine a cylinder on its side makes a lot more efficient stove shape, than on end. The top is closer to the fire for more heat, and the fire bed or w/e you call it, the place where you make fire, is long and rectangular for extra fire goodness, instead of small. And farther away from the top.

The side of the Heineken keg has a really convoluted shape, it would be pretty hard to set anything on there and have it stay. I was planning on using it upright, with a well sealed side exit chimney near the top. My MSR titan kettle takes up a good amount of the flat side of the keg, so the only way to top mount a chimney and not have it be in the way would be to use a pretty narrow chimney.

[Dak Kovar]

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[CAMOEDTJ]

ME TOO!! i still cant figure out the QUOTE THING yet it just sayes quote when i push it HEY DK heres a cheap idea you might try! take galvanized pipe like this here



cut out the locking seam. cut this out from

an unassembled piece of pipe!!


then roll it up to your diameter your wanting and wrap some wire round it to hold it while you drill holes in it.



then put a couple of wing nuts on it! just another cheap idea!

[CAMOEDTJ]

heck you might even be able to get all your pieces to lay inside one another and put your little nuts/screws in a little bag,then youd only have to deal with one piece to pack up.

DAMNIT I DELETED MY PICS!!

ok here they are again

[Dak Kovar]

No worries, I understand what you were getting at. Great idea. I'll have to go back to Lowe's. I'll be buying some stove paint and gasket material.
Thanks for the idea.
DK
Edit: Now I see'em. Cool. Question: How would you seal the length of the seam?

[bark-eater]

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5947105.html

http://patents.ic.gc.ca/cipo/cpd/en/pat ... mmary.html

not much to see but..... http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.20mmhotbox.com/

[Dak Kovar]

Interesting.
Edit: Is this your patent?

[CAMOEDTJ]

DK as far as sealing the seam well...............on my stainless roll up pipe there is no seam to seal it is just overlapd enough to not have any gaps in it. so i think it would probbaly work the same way for your pipe, just overlap enough and not leave no gaps.

[Dak Kovar]

Thanks, good to know.

[Woods Walker]

Camoedtj is right about the roll up pipe. Works great and packs down to nothing.

For smaller back packable stoves a horizontal shape seems like the best way to go. I am thinking it is the amount of coals exposed to the air flow that makes all the difference. In a smaller vertical stove there are fewer coals on the surface so more dead zones could develop. A cylinder shape seems to work better in relation to coaling as the wood slides down the round sides into the incoming draft. In a box stove the corners can develop dead zones. But than again there is the advantage of a larger flat cooking surface with a box shape.

I do have a cook pot that has been modified with a bend in the bottom to rest on the top of a round stove. I will post some photos in a few days.

[CAMOEDTJ]

here is a link for some stainless steel coil shim stock. i was going to try some of this,but since i really dont need another roll up pipe mabee somebody else who wnats to experiment with this idea, it would be way cheaper than you could buy from TITANIUM GOAT or others. i believe the thickness on my pipe is somewhere around like .004 but not sure on that since i dont have a micrometer.
http://www.maudlinproducts.com/1277.xml?cat=1165

by the way i cant wait to see what WW is cookin up on his stove, im sure it will be good!!

[Dak Kovar]

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[misanthropist]

here is a link for some stainless steel coil shim stock. i was going to try some of this,but since i really dont need another roll up pipe mabee somebody else who wnats to experiment with this idea, it would be way cheaper than you could buy from TITANIUM GOAT or others. i believe the thickness on my pipe is somewhere around like .004 but not sure on that since i dont have a micrometer.
http://www.maudlinproducts.com/1277.xml?cat=1165

by the way i cant wait to see what WW is cookin up on his stove, im sure it will be good!!

Run across any other sources? Getting anything shipped over the border with UPS is like pounding a railroad spike through your scrotum.

Incidentally the tigoat titanium foil is .005", so .004 stainless ought to be at least as sturdy.

[CAMOEDTJ]

misanthropist
i havent really searched to hard but im sure a little googleing will turn up more sources.


DK your grinding off the latches?? so i guess your gonna have a loose top or lid?? sounds interesting. have any luck with what size pipe your gonna use in it??

[Woods Walker]

I was looking into some stainless steel bathroom sized trash containers. They already have a door assembly and are rust resistant.

DK.

I somehow feel that laying down would be best (horizontal) as opposed to vertical but without doing it myself I can’t be certain.

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[Dak Kovar]

Since ya'll asked...

Basic "Quoting" by TGC.

Step 1. Find a nice post by someone else you would like to respond by "quoting" what they said.

Eg: TGC wrote something funny as usual and you want to respond to it.

Step 2. In the confines of that post you want to quote there is a Quote button. Press it and wait, do nothing else, don't copy and paste anything and don't press the Post Reply button at the bottom of the page..

Pressing that Quote button will bring up the post reply screen like you are used to using. However, you will notice that there is some text in the box already. It's the funny stuff that funny Aussie wrote. Awesome, but wait! Something's different right?

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at the start of it...

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