That's pretty much what I wanted to get a feel for. This would definately be a no win situation. Risk shooting it out with real cops. So a strategy of spending a $100 on fake body armor and a $5 can of white spray paint would be very effective if a group decided to carry out home invasions such as this.
As I previously mentioned, pretending to be a LEO is nothing new for criminals. I did not realize that somebody would think that the likelihood of this happening would be so remote that it is ridiculous to raise the possibility and illicit such a response.
I think it's VERY constructive to advise people NOT to shoot it out with cops
I agree, and did not advise it.
I said this:
legal disclaimer: This is only hypothetical. If someone says they are a Policeman, I would give them benefit of the doubt and suggest you do the same.
Try not to beat a dead horse okay?
My point is that if you are even slightly wrong, the consequences are so dire, as to not even risk it.
Point taken, lets move along...either course of action MAY result in dire results. BG's that organized will most likely not leave witnesses. So you're choice is "die laying down", that's cool.
If you don't like what I have to add, then don't post situations where you could potentially be shooting it out with real cops, on a public forum.
mmmkay are you trying to place a moral judgement on my hypothetical situation? Don't think it would actually happen? mkay....
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2007/aug/28/ ... sed-polic/
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/n ... 790061BEE4
It is much more likely you'll be robbed by a home invasion by a cop-impersonator than a scenario you'd have to bug out and never come home. But we've considered that possibility...why not this one?
The reason I am asking this on a public forum is because I want to get a feel for what others consider reasonable defense of life and liberty. Before you go off the handle and try to label me as a cop-basher; My father is a Constable and was a Policeman for 27yrs. My uncle and cousin are both State Troopers. My best friend is local cop. All of them have answered this question directly. Of course their answers were "Since I know the SWAT guys, I'd know if those guys coming across the lawn were them." The cops all said they would defend themselves since they would then have taken the element of surprise away since the BG's will be operating under the assumption that the inhabitants will not resist. Defender has 3 to 1 advantage. They have Interceptor body armor (they all have LE equivalents) and they could take out the only weapon that could penetrate it in an environment that only they are familiar with...
I won't hold a grudge against you Ranger. If you are what your name implies then it would be against your training and personality to submit as it seems the only viable answer. It also means you're smarter than the average grunt so you can make a sound tactical decision. Facing a well organized breaching team with the element of surprise is a poor tactical situation that only someone who is confident that their course of action is correct and that believe they have the skills to survive should attempt to undertake. So I understand your hostility towards the scenario.
So what circumstances or pre-knowledge would persuade you into action? Perhaps a news report the night before that 5-6 guys in a black van with "POLICE" stenciled on toy vests invaded a home in a neighborhood earlier that day and killed the occupants before robbing them?
Again, not a far stretch from the ACTUAL events in my neck of the woods recently with the fake traffic stops and car jacking/robbery.
Thanks for the support guys.