What makes a headshot a headshot?

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What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby Slinky » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:26 pm

So I was shooting with some friends, and decided to have a "headshot shootout" unfortunatly we were unable to declare a winner as no one could agree on what exactly constituted a headshot.

Just how much brain do you have to destroy to make a zombie re-dead? If a large amount of gray matter must destroyed many standard calibres may be insufficient. By the same token why waste ammo when blunt objects work just fine.

I want your opinions and more importantly the reasoning behind them.


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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby LD! » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:24 am

Slinky wrote:So I was shooting with some friends, and decided to have a "headshot shootout" unfortunatly we were unable to declare a winner as no one could agree on what exactly constituted a headshot.

Just how much brain do you have to destroy to make a zombie re-dead? If a large amount of gray matter must destroyed many standard calibres may be insufficient. By the same token why waste ammo when blunt objects work just fine.

I want your opinions and more importantly the reasoning behind them.


Thank you


Shouldn't you know, maybe be laying low after a game like that?
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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby crypto » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:24 am

Slinky wrote:f a large amount of gray matter must destroyed many standard calibres may be insufficient.
I want your opinions and more importantly the reasoning behind them.


Thank you



My opinion is that anything big enough to make a canteloupe explode is going to make scrambled eggs inside a zombie skull. My reasoning is that all the stuff I've shot at before looks like it's pretty well fucked up.

Buy a big hunk of brain at a butcher shop and shoot it with a pistol, see what happens.
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Postby Ranked Below » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:35 am

Ripping the bran stem, the frontal lobe and the centre of the brain up.
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Postby Starsmore » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:28 am

A head shot is a sucessful shot to the head that takes the Zed down. In practice I would say any shot in the center of the head area that would not be a "grazed" shot. Although I'm talking gamer terms more than anything.
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Postby Ricky Romero » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:36 am

IMO, and of course this would vary depending on the etiology of whatever has caused the zombism, the brainstem is all that counts. The frontal lobe is where you find your higher consciousness and decision-making abilities. Not applicable as zombies go, generally. The back of the brain houses the origins of some of the main nerve pathways, and gross motor function and the visual cortex also reside here. Important, yes. Shots here may disable or slow a zombie down, but not destroy it. The brainstem is the most unevolved portion of our brain. That's where we get our most basic primal urges, including hunger.

Aim for the brainstem.
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Postby Ranked Below » Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:30 am

Ricky Romero wrote:IMO, and of course this would vary depending on the etiology of whatever has caused the zombism, the brainstem is all that counts. The frontal lobe is where you find your higher consciousness and decision-making abilities. Not applicable as zombies go, generally. The back of the brain houses the origins of some of the main nerve pathways, and gross motor function and the visual cortex also reside here. Important, yes. Shots here may disable or slow a zombie down, but not destroy it. The brainstem is the most unevolved portion of our brain. That's where we get our most basic primal urges, including hunger.

Aim for the brainstem.


I said frontal lobe because I would'nt want them evolving.......
So yeah.......
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Postby TardArm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:08 pm

what if its the brainstem that needs destroyed......then most headshots wouldnt work.... i mean you would have to hit like nose level i think to kill it, not forehead...
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Postby Rus » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:51 pm

TardArm wrote:what if its the brainstem that needs destroyed......then most headshots wouldnt work.... i mean you would have to hit like nose level i think to kill it, not forehead...


Well, just do the whole head.

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For the record, I think those bottom five or so rounds wouldn't put a zed down. Likely keep it from biting, though.
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Postby Ranked Below » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:35 am

TardArm wrote:what if its the brainstem that needs destroyed......then most headshots wouldnt work.... i mean you would have to hit like nose level i think to kill it, not forehead...


Then I would be screwed?
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Postby PAW for President » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:17 am

The people from the firearms forum would probably be more helpful.

The idea is, if it could kill a person, it could kill a zombie. I think most people die when they get shot it in the head. Like, as a rule.

Crypto's got the idea; get a brain, shoot it up, see what happens. It'll be uplifting.



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Postby Gunny » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:21 am

Bullets don't act like they do in hollywood.

I've made headshots with small calibers (think .222 and .223) that act like a grenade. I've made headshots with very large bullets (think .338) that made no more than a pencil sized entry/exit wound.

Draw a line from the left eye to the right, and continue that line until you circle the cranium. This method works for most all critters you might need to take a headshot on.

Just remember that it's all about the bullet you're shooting. A 40 grain nosler ballistic tip will cause more catastrophic damage than a 70gr FMJ.
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Postby Ranked Below » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:14 am

So true.......
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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby Packin' Heat » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:19 am

Slinky wrote:By the same token why waste ammo when blunt objects work just fine.



You and I are on a roof top.

"Here is the crowbar, climb down and and hit as many of those zeds on the head until they stop moving. Good luck. watch your 6. In the mean time I will stay up here with the scoped M14."


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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby Ranked Below » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:17 pm

Packin' Heat wrote:
Slinky wrote:By the same token why waste ammo when blunt objects work just fine.



You and I are on a roof top.

"Here is the crowbar, climb down and and hit as many of those zeds on the head until they stop moving. Good luck. watch your 6. In the mean time I will stay up here with the scoped M14."


where do you wanna be?


I think he means a weight on a string.
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Postby BIGJAKE » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:23 pm

There is no way to tell until it happens. When it goes down and I bug out I will start of with the 12ga w/ 00 or 000 shells at a closer range and work my way down in ammo size until I find out what really does the trick and hopefully a carefully placed .22 from a distance will do the trick in the end.
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Postby Ranked Below » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:55 am

BIGJAKE wrote:There is no way to tell until it happens. When it goes down and I bug out I will start of with the 12ga w/ 00 or 000 shells at a closer range and work my way down in ammo size until I find out what really does the trick and hopefully a carefully placed .22 from a distance will do the trick in the end.


Hey, a carefully placed anything will probably do it.
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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby dood » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:49 pm

Buy a big hunk of brain at a butcher shop and shoot it with a pistol, see what happens.[/quote]

Dude, you gotta make a shell as hard or harder than the human skull to
be sure if it works.
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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby Ranked Below » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:51 am

dood wrote:Buy a big hunk of brain at a butcher shop and shoot it with a pistol, see what happens.


Dude, you gotta make a shell as hard or harder than the human skull to
be sure if it works.[/quote]

Heres a slightly better test:
Get your friend.
Tell your friend you need his gun.
Try to shoot through a 2 inch piece of wood into the brain, which must be in a glass jar floating in urine (use water if you want.)
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Postby CommonHighrise » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:35 pm

Shoot into a can of tomato paste. Preferrably with some sort of hollow-pointed hunting round. Or a good shotgun slug. Or a four-bore. :evil:
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Postby Ranked Below » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:12 am

Or a bow.
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Re: What makes a headshot a headshot?

Postby Mr. E. Monkey » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:56 pm

Ranked Below wrote:
dood wrote:Buy a big hunk of brain at a butcher shop and shoot it with a pistol, see what happens.


Dude, you gotta make a shell as hard or harder than the human skull to
be sure if it works.


Heres a slightly better test:
Get your friend.
Tell your friend you need his gun.
Try to shoot through a 2 inch piece of wood into the brain, which must be in a glass jar floating in urine (use water if you want.)[/quote]

Okay, I was WAY off when I first read "Get your friend." :twisted:

After reading your whole post, yeah, that's probably a good test that will also keep you from going to jail. :lol:
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Postby Fetus Smasher » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:31 am

What about shooting the neck? Or more specifically, the spine?

Blowing the f*** out of the neck below the cranium would definetly render a zed in operable. I don't know about the head itself (which, depending on method of zombification, would still be alive) but the zombie would be down.
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Postby pickledkraut » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:27 pm

just look for the pink mist.
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