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Postby crypto » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:28 pm

Here's how its going to go down

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Postby Jeriah » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:35 pm

Gunkata.
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Postby Wolfe4086 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:22 pm

Jeriah wrote:Gunkata.


But the Gun Kata does not lend well to combat against Zeds. You need to have an entirely revamped version not to mention it is only good when fighting alone. :)
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Postby CommonHighrise » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:09 pm

Now if someone could teach me gun katas with a Mossberg...
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Postby Wolfe4086 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:25 pm

CommonHighrise wrote:Now if someone could teach me gun katas with a Mossberg...


Well Preston did use two shotguns at one point in the film
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Postby CommonHighrise » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:26 pm

Jagdwulfe wrote:
CommonHighrise wrote:Now if someone could teach me gun katas with a Mossberg...


Well Preston did use two shotguns at one point in the film


Im sold. Two shottys for the zpaw it is!
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Postby jamoni » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:35 pm

CommonHighrise wrote:Now if someone could teach me gun katas with a Mossberg...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqBDbCR2gww
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Postby darkangel98s » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:29 pm

Well, I noticed the serious gun kata conversation above, wouldn't a mix of Akido and judo be effective in zombie melee? A combination of advanced throws, grapples, and evasive sidesteps and rolls is suprisingly effective.

I have 8 years of Tae Kwon Do, and a friend of my studies Akido. HE is incredibally annoying to spar with, and I usually end up on my back.

Though we have yet to test it, his thoughs on the matter, if your goal was simply to get past and escape, his style would be effective. Has anyone else here ever studied Akido and have an opinion?
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Postby Hanuman110 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:04 pm

I studied aikido briefly and from what little experience I have with it I believe that for it's maneuvers to be affective, your opponent has to feel the pressure/pain your putting on their joints.

A zombie doesn't feel pain and therefore would simply respond to your wrist twisting by chomping you on the neck.

And the first person in the PAW that pulls any Gunkata bullshit on me is gonna get a load of buckshot, unless I'm rendered helpless by laughter.
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Postby Jeriah » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:13 pm

jamoni wrote:
CommonHighrise wrote:Now if someone could teach me gun katas with a Mossberg...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqBDbCR2gww
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Wasn't there a video of a guy with a bayonet-equipped Mossy stabbing a watermelon, lifting it up over is head, and then blowing it off the bayonet by firing a round?
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Postby Wolfe4086 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:32 pm

Roadpirate wrote:I studied aikido briefly and from what little experience I have with it I believe that for it's maneuvers to be affective, your opponent has to feel the pressure/pain your putting on their joints.

A zombie doesn't feel pain and therefore would simply respond to your wrist twisting by chomping you on the neck.

And the first person in the PAW that pulls any Gunkata bullshit on me is gonna get a load of buckshot, unless I'm rendered helpless by laughter.


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Postby Hanuman110 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:51 pm

Jagdwulfe wrote:
Roadpirate wrote:I studied aikido briefly and from what little experience I have with it I believe that for it's maneuvers to be affective, your opponent has to feel the pressure/pain your putting on their joints.

A zombie doesn't feel pain and therefore would simply respond to your wrist twisting by chomping you on the neck.

And the first person in the PAW that pulls any Gunkata bullshit on me is gonna get a load of buckshot, unless I'm rendered helpless by laughter.


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Would that be the dream where you're giving a speech to a room full of people and suddenly realize your not wearing any clothes? or the other dream? :lol:
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Postby Off Duty Ninja » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:12 am

darkangel98s wrote:Well, I noticed the serious gun kata conversation above, wouldn't a mix of Akido and judo be effective in zombie melee? A combination of advanced throws, grapples, and evasive sidesteps and rolls is suprisingly effective.

I have 8 years of Tae Kwon Do, and a friend of my studies Akido. HE is incredibally annoying to spar with, and I usually end up on my back.

Though we have yet to test it, his thoughs on the matter, if your goal was simply to get past and escape, his style would be effective. Has anyone else here ever studied Akido and have an opinion?


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Postby Wolfe4086 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:38 pm

Roadpirate wrote:
Would that be the dream where you're giving a speech to a room full of people and suddenly realize your not wearing any clothes? or the other dream? :lol:


That was a dream? I woke up with fifty cents in change in my underwear. :(
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Postby CommonHighrise » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:17 pm

darkangel98s wrote:Well, I noticed the serious gun kata conversation above, wouldn't a mix of Akido and judo be effective in zombie melee? A combination of advanced throws, grapples, and evasive sidesteps and rolls is suprisingly effective.

I have 8 years of Tae Kwon Do, and a friend of my studies Akido. HE is incredibally annoying to spar with, and I usually end up on my back.

Though we have yet to test it, his thoughs on the matter, if your goal was simply to get past and escape, his style would be effective. Has anyone else here ever studied Akido and have an opinion?


My own personal 'aikido buddy' gave me the same argument as far as 'just getting past'. Maybe its because Im a big guy, with big guy mentality (though he isnt little), I just prefer the bum-rush and body check approach to 'just getting past'. Grabbing a hold of a zed is never a good idea.

As far as sparring against akido using TKD...good luck. A very striker heavy style versus a style designed to take down strikers. Only way i get good luck in against my partner is heavy Judo mixed in with a little bit of bullshit to catch him off guard.
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Postby D-Train » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:50 pm

Phil Elmore wrote:
i have recently "developed" a few techniques that involve penetrating thick surfaces like a skull for example.


No, you haven't.

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Postby Wolfe4086 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:56 pm

I just watched the Matrix. I am now ready to take on the Zed hordes.
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Postby Snake022 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:07 pm

yea, the thing is. you have to think about this. most, almost all hand to hand styles involve at least one of these three ideas. hurting you opponent to make them back off in some way. disabling them by getting them in sort form of hold or breaking some sort of bone or joint, killing them somehow.

most all of these will not work on a zombie. you cant hit them hard enough and make the realize "ow, shit, that hurt, i think i better leave this guy alone" they will just keep comming they are only after one thing, you, and they will do anything to get to you. yes, you can get them in a hold, but think about it...then what. you have their jaw held shut, their arms behind their back, so now what.. hes not going to give up, and if you let go, he just going to turn around and try attack you again, you can choke him and make him pass out, but im pretty sure that wont work, and most likely the sound of the fight, and the groaning will have already attracted more of them. yea, you have one in a head lock, he poses no harm, untill you let him go, which you will have to eventually, but there are 2 more coming up behind you. your screwed.

now we come to disabling them by breaking bones, yea, you can break their legs, or snap their spine, i have to admit, that tatic is probably the most effective when it comes to hand to hand fighting a zombie, but it dosent mean its that effective to begin with. you break their leg, snap their spine, they are still alive, and they are still dangerous, when you go near it, its still going to try to bite you

and yes, fighting to kill. let me tell you, you are not going to kill a zombie by what they teach you in those martial arts vidoes you buy of the internet. the best way kill them is to damage the brain. its not impossible but i have to say, its going to be really hard to crack a skull with your fist or foot. and in order to do that, you need practice, lots of it, and you really have only one chance, yea, you can do a flying spinny jumping kick and smack you heel againt their temple and crack their skull, but your not going to pull it off, especially if you have not had any practice, and not many people practice jumping in the air and breaking skulls, because hand to hand main idea is "the shortest distance between two point using the least ammount of effort" as in, why swing your arm around in a half circle, hooking someone, when you can punch straight forward and hit them, its faster and easier. they are designed for human opponents, and there are a lot of easier ways of killing someone that trying to crack their skull with a well placed punch or kick, which would be hard to place well to begin with.

and on top of all that, if you dont get it right the first time, you are usually not going to get a second chance, if you punch their head, but miss, your hand is right there, right by its fucking face, it would take no effort what so ever to just turn your head and bite you arm, and thats what it will do.

sorry for saying to much, but i had to get the point across, HAND TO HAND IS JUST SIMPLY NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO KILL A ZOMBIE! it takes too much practice, time, and energy to do it. and you should do it only as a last resort. even then, you should try to run away than try to fight it. you would be better off just stabing a screwdriver throught its eye socket, its simple, easy, and fast.
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Postby Snake022 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:40 pm

i just have a feeling that if you try martial arts of a zombie, you will end up like these guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnjb8Hx76u8
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Postby CommonHighrise » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:21 pm

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Postby Raven927 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:34 pm

HAHAHAAHAH! That guy coulden't even keep his balance kicking the torsobag. That guy deffently has no traning in any martial arts. He used chops first then just started throwing haymakers. If your goina use MA against a zombie. Use kicks, just kick it in the chest to knock it back or over...then runaway far away.
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Postby Off Duty Ninja » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:51 pm

Snake022 wrote:i just have a feeling that if you try martial arts of a zombie, you will end up like these guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnjb8Hx76u8


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Postby ZombieTaskForce » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:56 pm

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!! GODAMMIT I HAVE HAD A LOT OF MALL NINJA MOMENTS BUT THIS IS FUCKING SOME OF THE WORST BULLSHIT OUTSIDE OF THE FUCKING BUG OUT COAT IDEA WHICH WAS JUST PATHETIC NOT INFURIATING. BUT THIS MAKES ME WANT TO BLOW MY FUCKING BRAINS OUT WITH A .50 AE HOLLOW POINT. WHAT IS YOUR MALFUNCTION!? WHY? WHY? WHY!!!!!??????? WHY DO YOU POSION MY LIFE WITH THIS BULLSHIT!? WHYYYY!!!!????

I want to thank Zombie Squad for being the only rational place for zombie discussion. Everywhere else its the swords don't run out of ammo unlike your pathetic coward guns and chainsaws FTW! or my katana will cut through them all! Bullshit.

To those people however... YOU WILL DIE AND AFTERWARDS I WILL FILL YOUR DEAD CORPSE FULL OF LEAD SO YOU DON'T COME BACK AS A KATANA WIELDING SHITTY TARGET BOUGHT CAMOFLAUGE MALL NINJA WITH A SHITLOAD CRAPPY SHURIKEN MADE FROM ALLUMINUM! YOU WILL EITHER GET KILLED BY ZOMBIES EARLY BY GETTING SURROUNDED AFTER GETTING YOUR KATANA STUCK IN A ZOMBIES NECK OR YOU WILL DIE FROM MORE PAINFULL CAUSES. YOU WILL NOT BE THE LONE HERO LIKE YOU FANTASIZE ABOUT BEING. YOU WILL DIE FROM THE ELEMENTS OR ZOMBIES AFTER YOUR ASS IS FORCED TO LEAVE THE FEMA CAMP YOU HAD TO GO TO BECAUSE YOU HAD NO OTHER FUCKING OPTIONS WHEN IT RUNS OUT OF SUPPLIES AND SUPPORT. YOU WILL DIE COLD AND ALONE NEXT TO THE BODIES OF YOUR DEAD FAMILY'S CORPSES CRYING FOR SOME GOD TO SAVE YOUR ASS IN SOME PESTELENCE RIDDEN SHED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AS YOUR FAMILY BEGINS TO REANIMATE. FUCK. Allright sorry I know I can be a mall ninja myself sometimes but I had to get that out. Sorry.
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Postby ZombieTaskForce » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:03 pm

I don't mean the Topic Creator specificilly when I said all that. I have nothing against him personally He is simply misguided about the strength of hand to hand combat against zombies. My response was to all of the Mall Ninjas which does include the Topic Creator and the guy who thinks he can pierce skulls with his hand. And to the guy who thinks he can pierce skulls. That is a stupid idea and it will never work.
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