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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by woodsghost » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:37 am

Halfapint wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:55 am
Local news sources are now reporting that security forces have retaken control of rebel held areas. In a show of force they are closing businesses (including those who filed lawsuits against CHOP) by not allowing anyone into the “secured area” local news teams that were on scene during the 3rd wave of “security forces” attacking rebels while they slept are now confirming that inhabitants of the area are being denied access to their homes when they return from work.

Mayor has issue an emergency proclamation allowing local security forces to block entry of people who provide proper ID for a minimum of 10 days.

That’s correct occupying security forces are allowed to block entry to residents for no reason even provided proper papers.

Oh shit, sorry I’ve been making this sound like some 3rd world country. But given reports from local media, everything is true.

I’ll probably get banned but.... nothing i posted was untrue, merely laid out in an unpleasant manner.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by RickOShea » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:11 am

KING 5 news - Clean-up continues a day after Seattle's 'CHOP' zone was dismantled

Police have taped off streets in the neighborhood while city crews continue to clean the streets and park that made national headlines during the demonstration.

The public may cross police tape if they live in the neighborhood or need to visit a business in the area, but must get permission from officers first. The now-quiet streets are a stark contrast to the days and weeks prior.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by NT2C » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:52 am

Halfapint wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:55 am
I’ll probably get banned but.... nothing i posted was untrue, merely laid out in an unpleasant manner.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by RonnyRonin » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:03 pm

Halfapint wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:55 am
Local news sources are now reporting that security forces have retaken control of rebel held areas. In a show of force they are closing businesses (including those who filed lawsuits against CHOP) by not allowing anyone into the “secured area” local news teams that were on scene during the 3rd wave of “security forces” attacking rebels while they slept are now confirming that inhabitants of the area are being denied access to their homes when they return from work.

Mayor has issue an emergency proclamation allowing local security forces to block entry of people who provide proper ID for a minimum of 10 days.

That’s correct occupying security forces are allowed to block entry to residents for no reason even provided proper papers.

Oh shit, sorry I’ve been making this sound like some 3rd world country. But given reports from local media, everything is true.

I’ll probably get banned but.... nothing i posted was untrue, merely laid out in an unpleasant manner.
Links to news reports? I'm very curious about how this is all shaping out, as woodsghost said this could become a more common thing at some point.

When you say "blocking residents" do you mean people who inhabited the area before the CHOP, or people who moved their afterwards?

It seems there is precedent for barring entry citing public health concerns for an area (wild fires, industrial accidents, etc.) of course whether any individual citing of that concern could be real or entirely fabricated; but it doesn't sound like a new precedent all together.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Halfapint » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm

Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Stercutus » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:16 am

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.
They really should be. There was previous reporting when the PB's went in to the zone and got into a physical confrontation with someone.
In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
Yep, in LA the Chief said in no uncertain that he could not protect people on the highways and interstates and they would continue to get run over if they stayed after the incident there the other day.
Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.
By "a couple" you mean "a couple of dozen"?
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by woodsghost » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:14 am

Halfapint wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm
Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
That is some hard stuff to hear. And it is actual police controlling the zone? Not private security?

Thank you for the information.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Halfapint » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:15 am

woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:14 am
Halfapint wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm
Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
That is some hard stuff to hear. And it is actual police controlling the zone? Not private security?

Thank you for the information.
It’s actual police, checking papers. This is what the media is actually ignoring. Infect other than reports from locals and seeing it in person, there are zero actual media covering this. Even the local left leaning weekly paper isn’t covering it. Which is a bit “strange” for even them.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by lailr » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:52 am

Stercutus wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:53 am
Halfapint wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:55 am
Local news sources are now reporting that security forces have retaken control of rebel held areas. In a show of force they are closing businesses (including those who filed lawsuits against CHOP) by not allowing anyone into the “secured area” local news teams that were on scene during the 3rd wave of “security forces” attacking rebels while they slept are now confirming that inhabitants of the area are being denied access to their homes when they return from work.

Mayor has issue an emergency proclamation allowing local security forces to block entry of people who provide proper ID for a minimum of 10 days.

That’s correct occupying security forces are allowed to block entry to residents for no reason even provided proper papers.

Oh shit, sorry I’ve been making this sound like some 3rd world country. But given reports from local media, everything is true.

I’ll probably get banned but.... nothing i posted was untrue, merely laid out in an unpleasant manner.
Sounds about right and really no surprise given the all star comedy cast.

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"Enough is enough, The CHOP has become lawless and brutal, with shootings, robberies, assaults, violence and countless property crimes." - Da General in charge of security forces

You should be ashamed of yourself from implying that some countries are better than others with your "3rd world country" talk. You should not spread cultural supremacy like that.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by raptor2 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:52 am

Halfapint wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:15 am
woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:14 am
Halfapint wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm
Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
That is some hard stuff to hear. And it is actual police controlling the zone? Not private security?

Thank you for the information.
It’s actual police, checking papers. This is what the media is actually ignoring. Infect other than reports from locals and seeing it in person, there are zero actual media covering this. Even the local left leaning weekly paper isn’t covering it. Which is a bit “strange” for even them.
The explanation for such poor news coverage is simple. It does not fit their desired narrative and does not sell clicks.
That explanation is a universal explanation of any event and lack of coverage thereof in today's biased new reporting.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by woodsghost » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:05 am

Halfapint wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:15 am
woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:14 am
Halfapint wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm
Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
That is some hard stuff to hear. And it is actual police controlling the zone? Not private security?

Thank you for the information.
It’s actual police, checking papers. This is what the media is actually ignoring. Infect other than reports from locals and seeing it in person, there are zero actual media covering this. Even the local left leaning weekly paper isn’t covering it. Which is a bit “strange” for even them.
Like you said, this really should be reported, and like raptor said, they must not think it will sell clicks or it doesn't fit a narrative.

You make me wonder what else is not being reported in the US. Thank you for keeping us informed.

I think the news is being very selectively fed to us, and the general trend towards reading one set of views seems to be growing. I think we all need to be keeping our heads up and looking around or we will be blindsided by issues which are not being reported. I'm not totally sure how to do that right now, other than to keep reading ZS. I have some other sources, but they are generally all controlled by people with big agendas who have proven willing to filter information to shape the world to their agendas.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by raptor2 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:13 am

woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:05 am

You make me wonder what else is not being reported in the US. Thank you for keeping us informed.

I think the news is being very selectively fed to us, and the general trend towards reading one set of views seems to be growing. I think we all need to be keeping our heads up and looking around or we will be blindsided by issues which are not being reported. I'm not totally sure how to do that right now, other than to keep reading ZS. I have some other sources, but they are generally all controlled by people with big agendas who have proven willing to filter information to shape the world to their agendas.
A lot of news does not come out of the MSM.

I read a lot of sources for information and while there is also a lot of BS/biased/flat out wrong stories being published. With the right amount of data parsing there is a lot of things that are either ignored or simply flat out wrong in a lot of the MSM.

That is one reason I like ZS. Many times over the years exactly what happened here (a member pointed out a "non-event" at least as far as the MSM is concerned ) has pointed out a news story that otherwise would escape most of us. That and first hand accounts are always a useful perspective.

If you look at the original corona virus thread you will see an example of this in that we were discussing it long before the MSM gave it any attention.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Halfapint » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 am

raptor2 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:13 am
woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:05 am

You make me wonder what else is not being reported in the US. Thank you for keeping us informed.

I think the news is being very selectively fed to us, and the general trend towards reading one set of views seems to be growing. I think we all need to be keeping our heads up and looking around or we will be blindsided by issues which are not being reported. I'm not totally sure how to do that right now, other than to keep reading ZS. I have some other sources, but they are generally all controlled by people with big agendas who have proven willing to filter information to shape the world to their agendas.
A lot of news does not come out of the MSM.

I read a lot of sources for information and while there is also a lot of BS/biased/flat out wrong stories being published. With the right amount of data parsing there is a lot of things that are either ignored or simply flat out wrong in a lot of the MSM.

That is one reason I like ZS. Many times over the years exactly what happened here (a member pointed out a "non-event" at least as far as the MSM is concerned ) has pointed out a news story that otherwise would escape most of us. That and first hand accounts are always a useful perspective.

If you look at the original corona virus thread you will see an example of this in that we were discussing it long before the MSM gave it any attention.
Agreed, I used to generally be on the side of media, but the lack of actual coverage is astonishing. Citizen reporters have been doing a much better job recently.

While I can kind of get it, big papers/stations should use resources they have for exposing large scale crimes with multi month long investigations etc. you’d think that local small time papers like the Stranger in Seattle would
Be in on this especially since they had reporters in the CHOP zone day in and day out.

Perhaps they are working on something, in the mean time I just keep following the local people doing the reports. I actually hate going down town unless I have the wife’s car, my truck doesn’t fit anywhere. I’d be up there more often (it is my old stomping ground), but just not something I can do all the time.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by boskone » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:43 am

woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:05 am
Halfapint wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:15 am
woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:14 am
Halfapint wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm
Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
That is some hard stuff to hear. And it is actual police controlling the zone? Not private security?

Thank you for the information.
It’s actual police, checking papers. This is what the media is actually ignoring. Infect other than reports from locals and seeing it in person, there are zero actual media covering this. Even the local left leaning weekly paper isn’t covering it. Which is a bit “strange” for even them.
Like you said, this really should be reported, and like raptor said, they must not think it will sell clicks or it doesn't fit a narrative.

You make me wonder what else is not being reported in the US. Thank you for keeping us informed.

I think the news is being very selectively fed to us, and the general trend towards reading one set of views seems to be growing. I think we all need to be keeping our heads up and looking around or we will be blindsided by issues which are not being reported. I'm not totally sure how to do that right now, other than to keep reading ZS. I have some other sources, but they are generally all controlled by people with big agendas who have proven willing to filter information to shape the world to their agendas.
I can't remember the specifics now, but I read a report a week or so ago on the subject of political polarization. Basically, people tend to be most psychologically comfortable with someone who either agrees or disagrees with them, but not in between.

Explains a lot about the US the last few decades.

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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Stercutus » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:35 pm

While I can kind of get it, big papers/stations should use resources they have for exposing large scale crimes with multi month long investigations etc. you’d think that local small time papers like the Stranger in Seattle would
Be in on this especially since they had reporters in the CHOP zone day in and day out.
You must be thinking of the 90s. The early 90s was a high water mark for media resources. These days even large organizations have been pared down to astonishingly small news departments with a lots of freelancers who contribute articles. I could go a lot more in to how things have evolved in the media over the last three decades but a lot of us have lived it.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by NT2C » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:01 pm

raptor2 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:52 am
Halfapint wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:15 am
woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:14 am
Halfapint wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm
Went uo to check things out yesterday, the area is completely off limits, cops are not allowing anyone in without ID, you don’t live there you are not allowed to even walk on the streets. In fact cops will escort you to and from your building outside the exclusionary zones

While up there a group of proud boys being escorted by police where pepper spraying people, cops did nothing. Businesses have now completely closed because they can get no business. Yes, that includes the couple businesses that filed suits who where open during the CHOP times.

Local newspaper is quite silent on this part. In fact they aren’t reporting.

In other Seattle news, a person driving a car drop up the exit ramp, onto a closed freeway, striking 2 protesters. One died yesterday and the other is in serious condition. This is getting some coverage, from national news, whike other parts of are not.
That is some hard stuff to hear. And it is actual police controlling the zone? Not private security?

Thank you for the information.
It’s actual police, checking papers. This is what the media is actually ignoring. Infect other than reports from locals and seeing it in person, there are zero actual media covering this. Even the local left leaning weekly paper isn’t covering it. Which is a bit “strange” for even them.
The explanation for such poor news coverage is simple. It does not fit their desired narrative and does not sell clicks.
That explanation is a universal explanation of any event and lack of coverage thereof in today's biased new reporting.
tl;dr: We can't make money reporting that.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by NT2C » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:22 pm

woodsghost wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:05 am
I think the news is being very selectively fed to us, and the general trend towards reading one set of views seems to be growing. I think we all need to be keeping our heads up and looking around or we will be blindsided by issues which are not being reported. I'm not totally sure how to do that right now, other than to keep reading ZS. I have some other sources, but they are generally all controlled by people with big agendas who have proven willing to filter information to shape the world to their agendas.
I was briefly in the publishing industry way back in the 80s. Not a news organization per se, it was a computer magazine, but we did cover industry news. Over and over again I kept seeing a pattern happen that I think applies to MSM today.

A major news event happens. All the media covers it but each organization skews things a little to better align with their readership/viewers and the positions of their sponsors. Then comes the filler pieces. Those get selected with a few criteria such as how well similar stories have been received in the past, how well a competing organization is doing with similar stories (might steal some viewers/readers), how much the managing editor likes a story (editor puts themself in the place of a "typical" reader/viewer, but adding their own "bent" to it), how much a sponsor might want to see such stories covered. That last one carried a helluva lot of weight to it and I suspect still does. Advertising is constantly being tied to news stories that jibe with the product (or that an algorithm thinks does) and such stories are actively scanned for in deciding what to cover. Got two similar stories but one only ties with 1 sponsor while the other ties with 5 sponsors? Guess which one makes the cut. Also critically important is how well the competition did with yesterdays market share. What were their big stories that got a lot of viewers? That's what Competitor B and Competitor C are going to concentrate some resources on today. This tends to feed on itself and, unfortunately, leads to copycat news actors who see how much attention XYZ organization got with what they did, so let's try upping the ante with even more over the top actions so we get the news attention. It cycles like that until it either burns itself out, other stories capture more attention, or it gets shut down.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by tony d tiger » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:41 pm

Halfapint wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:55 am
Local news sources are now reporting that security forces have retaken control of rebel held areas. In a show of force they are closing businesses (including those who filed lawsuits against CHOP) by not allowing anyone into the “secured area” local news teams that were on scene during the 3rd wave of “security forces” attacking rebels while they slept are now confirming that inhabitants of the area are being denied access to their homes when they return from work.

Mayor has issue an emergency proclamation allowing local security forces to block entry of people who provide proper ID for a minimum of 10 days.

That’s correct occupying security forces are allowed to block entry to residents for no reason even provided proper papers.

Oh shit, sorry I’ve been making this sound like some 3rd world country. But given reports from local media, everything is true.

I’ll probably get banned but.... nothing i posted was untrue, merely laid out in an unpleasant manner.
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The whole CHAZ/CHOP experience has been "unpleasant" - hopefully some grownups will be along soon.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by raptor2 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:50 am

tony d tiger wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:41 pm


The whole CHAZ/CHOP experience has been "unpleasant" - hopefully some grownups will be along soon.
Lets hope so. At least it has not ended like Waco.

BTW in the aftermath of Katrina large sections (several square miles) of NOLA were off limits for months even to the property owners "for their own safety". There is legal precedent for barring property owners from going to their residences.

I hope none of the people who live there have left their pets unattended or that they are allowed to retrieve said pets.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Dabster » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:54 pm

Anyone heard of Executive Order 13933?

I read about it here last night (Yes it is overly dramatic:) https://medium.com/@45thabsurdist/why-a ... 527a99f47f

Some purported highlights:
-This EO has motivated local and Federal law enforcement to become more aggressive.
-Feds don’t need approval or consultation with cities and have broad law enforcement powers around statues.
-Local cooperation with Federal law enforcement efforts tied to Federal funds.
-Bill Barr will prioritize this work.

Looking forward to some thoughtful and respectful discussion,
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Stercutus » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:01 pm

Dabster wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:54 pm
Anyone heard of Executive Order 13933?

I read about it here last night (Yes it is overly dramatic:) https://medium.com/@45thabsurdist/why-a ... 527a99f47f

Some purported highlights:
-This EO has motivated local and Federal law enforcement to become more aggressive.
-Feds don’t need approval or consultation with cities and have broad law enforcement powers around statues.
-Local cooperation with Federal law enforcement efforts tied to Federal funds.
-Bill Barr will prioritize this work.

Looking forward to some thoughtful and respectful discussion,
Seems a bit OT to me.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by Dabster » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:08 pm

Stercutus wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:01 pm

Seems a bit OT to me.
We're discussing CHOP and this EO is probably why it was shut down. Not OT at all.
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Re: Seattle: The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Post by raptor2 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:12 pm

Dabster wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:08 pm
Stercutus wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:01 pm

Seems a bit OT to me.
We're discussing CHOP and this EO is probably why it was shut down. Not OT at all.
So the murders, arson and lawsuits against the city of Seattle had no bearing on the Seattle PD & State Police actions in this matter?
That should make this attorney's lawsuit a lot easier to win.
https://komonews.com/news/local/second- ... -chop-zone

Discussion of the EO also delves into politics unless it is documentable (a.k.a. news source) that this EO is the reason for Seattle PD's actions here.
We can discuss events but the politics behind them is proscribed.
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