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Post by MPMalloy » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:11 pm

...over 50 million locked down...over 100,000 infected...



What happened to Wuhan Virus YT channel? Anyone know?

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Post by flybynight » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:22 pm

What's the Chinese word for gulag ?
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Post by JayceSlayn » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:23 pm

moab wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:45 pm
Maybe this was already posted. Here's a dashboard with map that shows realtime updates on the coronavirus.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6
The latest update for 2020-01-28 from this great site shows the number of confirmed cases nearing 5.6K without a noticeable peak forming in the daily rate of new infections. It looks like the Wuhan coronavirus may be significantly more contagious than previous strains (SARS, MERS). That, or somehow we have gotten worse at quarantine/epidemiology over time. Case mortality rate I expect lags the confirmed cases a little bit, but it does seem to be much less deadly than either SARS or MERS, thankfully.

The extremely aggressive quarantine that China has enacted is a bold move, and even though it may be somewhat counterproductive to actually reducing new infections, it has really helped drive the public awareness of the issue, which could be said to be a good thing. Ultimately, having the public pay attention, take extra precautions, and alter their daily habits or travel plans, is what will really help.

SARS attained only a few thousand more total confirmed infections over the better part of a year, and the Wuhan strain has almost met that within one month. I don't see any reason why we'd expect it not to continue its rate of spread for another few weeks/months, so the total infection count could be pretty high. I suspect that even with a dramatically lower mortality rate, it may still reach or exceed the prior death tolls. Even so, I don't see anything yet to suggest that it won't be a largely regional outbreak still - probably nothing that the average citizen outside of China should be too worried about. Keep an eye on it (if possible, from a great distance), of course.

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CP's take on things. It seems more info than hype, but whatdoiknow?


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Post by flybynight » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:53 am

Lot of good info in those last two videos. Answers to questions I've been wanting to know
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Post by the_alias » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:06 am

Remarkable in that video the journo claimed there was no Ebola vaccine. Afaik there are two, one has been given to healthcare workers and former CDC director didn’t correct her.

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Post by the_alias » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 am

British Airways just suspended all direct flights from the UK to China.

Lufthansa considering the same.
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Post by flybynight » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:34 am

the_alias wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 am
British Airways just suspended all direct flights from the UK to China.

Lufthansa considering the same.
Just direct flights? Flights with one or more stops are still in operation?
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MPMalloy wrote:
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Post by raptor » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:31 pm

flybynight wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:34 am
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Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 am
British Airways just suspended all direct flights from the UK to China.

Lufthansa considering the same.
Just direct flights? Flights with one or more stops are still in operation?

Several airlines are suspending flights. I suspect that demand has as much to do with many flight cancellations. These long haul flights are very profitable but only if they get 75% or better occupancy.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/br ... d=68605496
American Airlines is suspending two routes to China, citing "significant decline in demand for travel to and from China."

Flights from Los Angeles International Airport to Shanghai Pudong Airport and to Beijing Capital International Airport will not run from Feb. 9 through March 27, the company said in a Wednesday statement.

Meanwhile, British Airways announced Wednesday that it has suspended all flights to and from mainland China "with immediate effect," as the country struggles to contain the outbreak of the new coronavirus.

The United Kingdom's flag carrier airline, which operates daily flights from London to Shanghai and Beijing, said it made the decision "following advice from the Foreign Office against all but essential travel."
South Korean low-cost carrier Air Seoul and Indonesian budget airline Lion Air have also suspended flights to mainland China, while several other airlines have reduced the number of flights to the country.

The UK and US are both advising against all but truly "essential travel".


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Indonesia's Lion Air Group to suspend all flights to China from February
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKBN1ZS13I
Lufthansa Group suspends flights to mainland China 'with immediate effect' in response to coronavirus
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/lufthans ... oronavirus

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Post by absinthe beginner » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:42 pm

Reporters Claim To Have Proof China Lying About Virus Death Toll As Total Cases Near 8,000; Another 12,000 Suspected

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... iddle-east

Virus-panic buying hits Hong Kong supermarkets

https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/artic ... ermarkets/

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Post by majorhavoc » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:46 am

Russia orders partial closure of 2600 mile border with China, W.H.O. considering global emergency declaration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/30/worl ... e=Homepage

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Post by Confucius » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:16 am

Confirmed case in India and the Philippines

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... virus.html

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Post by flybynight » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:04 pm

1st US person-to-person coronavirus transmission reported in Illinois




https://www.yahoo.com/gma/world-health- ... 00742.html
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Post by Dabster » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:50 pm

Anyone catch that everyone who made it to the US with this virus has died?

1 confirmed; deaths - Washington US
1 confirmed; deaths - Illinois US
1 confirmed; deaths - Arizona US
2 confirmed; deaths - California US


Source: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6.

Looking at this webpage more I think I'm misinterpreting. These people are still alive. Sorry.
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Post by Confucius » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:54 pm

Nobody outside of China has been confirmed dead from the virus to date.


WHO has declared a global health emergency:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51318246

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by raptor » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:16 pm

Anyone surprised by this?

UN agency declares global emergency over virus from China
https://apnews.com/0f0f07b30c8cdd2b0f30c6081acc7599
UN agency declares global emergency over virus from China
BEIJING (AP) — The World Health Organization declared the outbreak sparked by a new virus in China that has been exported to more than a dozen countries as a global emergency Thursday after the number of cases spiked tenfold in a week.

The U.N. health agency defines an international emergency as an “extraordinary event” that constitutes a risk to other countries and requires a coordinated international response.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Post by mad scientist » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:56 pm

I had to go to the dentist today. The receptionist was on the phone talking to a healthcare supplier trying to order the "Level 1" dental masks they use. I could only hear one side of the conversation, but it sounded like the supplier was back-ordered and didn't know when they would have more. In the short time I was in the lobby she called two more places and got the same answer.

Even if this virus never spreads in a meaningful way in the US, I think we are going to be effected. Masks being sold out, people being quarantined, and flights being canceled are the obvious first order effects we're facing now but I would like to caution everyone to consider the 2nd and 3rd order effects that may challenge you. A big concern I have is supply chain disruption if China is forced to prolong its quarantines for many more weeks, as many of our raw materials and basic industrial components come from China. Another concern is that as the news starts to focus more on this virus, it will encourage ever more people to go out and buy things they typically wouldn't buy and cause artificial shortages.



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