Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

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My BOC would most likely be a

Game Cart
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27%
Wheel Barrow
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6%
Jogging Stroller
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18%
Lawn Cart
2
6%
Dolly/Hand Truck
2
6%
Custom Build
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36%
 
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by ManInBlack316 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:52 pm

I've toyed with the idea of making a small bike trailer out of PVC, especially as I have a kid on the way it could be fun when they get older.
Another use I didn't see mentioned (could have missed it), casualty movement. Just took a med class where they had us moving guys around in full gear (chest rigs, rifles, ect.), gets tiring quickly, even pole litters only help so much. Consensus was reached that if the terrain allowed, a cart of some kind, even a wheelbarrow, would be preferred to move the casualty. Doesn't even have to be something as traumatic as a gunshot casualty, could be someone twisted their ankle or got knocked on the head unconscious.
For most situations, a wheelbarrow type setup probably with two wheels would be most useful to me. Used to use a single wheeled wheelbarrow when cleaning stables as a kid and it made it a lot more efficient.

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by teotwaki » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:52 pm

a good cart resource with lots of pix of different cart solutions

http://www.armadilling.com/trailers-carts-sledges/
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by ineffableone » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:38 pm

teotwaki wrote:a good cart resource with lots of pix of different cart solutions

http://www.armadilling.com/trailers-carts-sledges/
Nice find, though surprising they didn't have the Dixon roller pack in the list of commercial trailers/carts.

However I really liked the Radical Designs stuff, which I don't think I had seen before, or if I had they were much earlier designs that didn't cut it for me. Their Wheelie 4 seems to be a very nice design though and has me quite interested. While I like their bag designs, for prepping I would want something that allowed me to put my INCH pack into it, so their Cargo model looks like what I would likely go for, or just the bare frame and I could DIY my own attachment methods. Though not exactly racing out to buy one of these at this point. I have a lot of other higher priorities at this point. Like building a house this year on my new homestead property. Which should reduce my need for a bug out cart dramatically, being already out in a very rural area. But I still enjoy camping and hiking, so could still see getting one of these eventually.
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Post by TacAir » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:01 am

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by teotwaki » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:35 am

TacAir wrote:Here is a page of links of successful long haul trips using carts to move supplies.

http://www.armadilling.com/trailers-carts-sledges/

that link sure looks familiar :mrgreen:

teotwaki wrote:a good cart resource with lots of pix of different cart solutions

http://www.armadilling.com/trailers-carts-sledges/
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by ineffableone » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:46 pm

OK these aren't "carts" but worth adding to this thread.

I just recently picked up the Ridgid 22" Professional Tool Storage System from homedespot, for actually using as tool boxes. I had done a lot of research into these, and it was really interesting how it was being used by craftsmen yes, but also preppers, photographers, artists, crafters, jewelry makers, leather workers, and a lot more. So this is kind of a system you could use in regular day to day that could quickly convert into a bug out option.

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Dewalt has a similar system called the Tough System with some differences.

Handtruck version
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Rolling box version
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I was split between the two brands, typical of these things one brand had options I liked but the other didn't and the second had options I also liked the other didn't. So time to pick which came down to price really, with the Ridgid set significantly less expensive. I also did not like the seperate hand truck set up for the Dewalt, or their rolling bottom box wheels. If I were going to just get boxes and add a hand truck, I would buy my own handtruck not theirs.

Something to note, Dewalt has a sliding drawer module, while the Ridged has a "milk crate" module.

Here is a decent video comparison of each


While I am here, another thing that I spotted while looking at videos for those tool box systems was thew Harbor Freight rough terrain welding cart. I suspect this video has been posted before in another thread but worth bringing up again.
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by Evan the Diplomat » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:27 pm

RonnyRonin wrote: This guy shows a decent overview of some options and his own pretty clever design:
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/ind ... ic=35455.0

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Uses:

So why do I want a BOC? I will try to list my own imagined uses,
Bug out Bicycles is a topic worthy of its own thread, but I would like some discussion on when they would choose a bike over a cart or vice versa.
What a coincidence. Today I buzzed by the Costco at lunch. There was a Walmart grade mountain bike with a welded rig that attached to a frame carrying a black chest almost identical to that one. His chest was one on the two wheeled roll away ones, but he had replaced the small hard plastic wheels of and axle and pneumatic bicycle tires. Atop that he had strapped on one of those huge white Coleman coffin coolers, held in place by nylon webbing straps.

The 40 something wiry Cuban guy did not appreciate my interest in his handiwork. I noticed he was wearing jeans. Oh the chaffing.
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Post by teotwaki » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:50 am

Ran across this thing on Craigslist. It can be towed by a bike or moved by hand

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https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bop/6018021285.html

"This is a converted bicycle trailer made into a hunting trailer and game hauler. This has been used and designed to be an efficient trailer. It has hauled a full 1 person (sometimes 2 person) camp with tent, bedding, water, food. It has a shelf and spare tire enclosed in the interior. The covering is made of Ghost Camo and can be unsnapped to be used for a blind or as blind material. It has been used to haul game out using custom made handles. This has been use for deer hunting and has hauled out deer. Ideal for someone who wants to get back further into the hunting areas."
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by MPMalloy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:35 pm

teotwaki wrote:Ran across this thing on Craigslist. It can be towed by a bike or moved by hand
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https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bop/6018021285.html
"This is a converted bicycle trailer made into a hunting trailer and game hauler. This has been used and designed to be an efficient trailer. It has hauled a full 1 person (sometimes 2 person) camp with tent, bedding, water, food. It has a shelf and spare tire enclosed in the interior. The covering is made of Ghost Camo and can be unsnapped to be used for a blind or as blind material. It has been used to haul game out using custom made handles. This has been use for deer hunting and has hauled out deer. Ideal for someone who wants to get back further into the hunting areas."
This looks like it is just the ticket. I was looking into motorcycles today & I decided against them. A bicycle, w/a trailer, might be doable.

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by RonnyRonin » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:34 pm

Saw this on a recent trip to Oregon:

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a taller hand truck as a daily driver. Obviously width limited and better suited for pavement, but that is a pretty impressive loadout for a single person; two sea bags, a large sleeping bag and pad, and probably a pretty large tent as well.


Also a belated thanks to ineffableone for showing me those tool carts, been down the rabbit hole of comparing tool storage solutions for a small apartment and something that can be moved around depending on were space is needed is starting to sound like a good idea.
Also as a better-then-nothing BOC or just a from-the-house-to-the-BOV transport, the rolling Huskey job boxes at home depot seem better then I remember them. Not much worse ground clearance then a hand truck and for light, bulky stuff like shelter and sleep gear it could be a viable addition.
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by majorhavoc » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:06 pm

RonnyRonin wrote:Saw this on a recent trip to Oregon:

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Something tells me the owner of that rig (and dog) have some interesting stories to tell.

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:52 pm

I've opted for the custom route, its an ongoing project, as trying to
be versatile and accommodate as many eventuality's as possible can't be rushed.

This is the swing arm section that will utilize a Fox air shock unit at some point.
The whole thing should be foldable, float on water, use as many cycle parts as possible
to aid servicing and repair, take a variety of wheel sizes from 16" to 26", adjustable
width to allow front or rear wheels to be used, and hopefully take an axle for two
wheel setup, a minimum load capacity weight limit of 85kg, more if possible,
be able to carry an injured person ? usable on snow, adaptable to attach to a bike
in a trailer mode, extend out for use as a ladder or bridge crossing, though to achieve
all this is going to be fun to fathom :

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Post by teotwaki » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:32 pm

YEOLDOAK wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:52 pm
I've opted for the custom route, its an ongoing project, as trying to
be versatile and accommodate as many eventuality's as possible can't be rushed.

This is the swing arm section that will utilize a Fox air shock unit at some point.
The whole thing should be foldable, float on water, use as many cycle parts as possible
to aid servicing and repair, take a variety of wheel sizes from 16" to 26", adjustable
width to allow front or rear wheels to be used, and hopefully take an axle for two
wheel setup, a minimum load capacity weight limit of 85kg, more if possible,
be able to carry an injured person ? usable on snow, adaptable to attach to a bike
in a trailer mode, extend out for use as a ladder or bridge crossing, though to achieve
all this is going to be fun to fathom :

Dang. Wish I could see your picture but I think that link is bad, may be incompatible with the forum or too big to display
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Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:05 pm

pictures are everything on forums, see if this is any better ?
Am using a new to me picture hosting site, so am kinda learning as I go,
let me know which one works for reference for later picture postings
to this forum.

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Post by NT2C » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:40 pm

Just as an FYI, all of the images are visible to me using Chrome on my phone.
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Post by teotwaki » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:00 pm

YEOLDOAK wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:05 pm
pictures are everything on forums, see if this is any better ?
Am using a new to me picture hosting site, so am kinda learning as I go,
let me know which one works for reference for later picture postings
to this forum.

https://postimg.cc/ZWHznkVS
https://i.postimg.cc/mrfLdB9t/Suspension-Swingarm.jpg
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IE says this Can’t connect securely to this page. This might be because the site uses outdated or unsafe TLS security settings. If this keeps happening, try contacting the website’s owner.

However my iPhone can see the pix (YAY). So that host i.posting.cc may not be compatible with all browsers
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Post by teotwaki » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:40 pm

In the pix I see a (Shimano?) hydraulic disk brake. What are your thoughts on how you might control it?
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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:28 pm

Its a 2003 Hope Mini hydraulic disc brake, the idea is to run the
hydraulic hose to a cut down/modified Hope brake lever, which
will be mounted at the mid/folding hinge point of the hiking trailer,
from this point it will switch to a cable that actuates the modified
lever, and runs to the handle bars and connects to a cable brake lever,
the reason for this is, I can put a disconnect in the cable to allow for
folding or disassembling of the hiking trailer and have the power of
a hydraulic, also the cable brake lever can be set to a hold position
for a no hands brake on should it be needed, how or whether it works
like that is yet to be seen.

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:34 pm

As for the type of brake lever at the handle bar, which will be the cable type,
could be a conventional V brake lever or use a gear lever, perhaps like
those on the downtube from racing road bikes, as they could be thumb
operated, which would then give full finger wrap around grip on
the bars should load weight on an incline need holding whilst braking,
as yet that's all to figured out.

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Post by NT2C » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:02 pm

YEOLDOAK wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:05 pm
pictures are everything on forums, see if this is any better ?
Am using a new to me picture hosting site, so am kinda learning as I go,
let me know which one works for reference for later picture postings
to this forum.

https://postimg.cc/ZWHznkVS
https://i.postimg.cc/mrfLdB9t/Suspension-Swingarm.jpg
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Are those arms bar stock or tube?
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Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:20 pm

2mm wall thick Tube, I'd like it to float for river crossings not sink :)

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:53 pm

If its of interest to anyone, the Aluminium plate parts which consist of either
10mm and 20mm thick T6 grade Alloy, have all been machined via manual hand movement
of the alloy into a TCT wood cutter bit, on a flipped upside down DeWalt wood working
router ( DW625E ) therefore no real fancy machine to make the parts, all is then
bolted together in a sort of meccano toy fashion, downside to this is weight, plus
side is the component parts can be switched out, changed etc

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The technical drawing which I work from

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by YEOLDOAK » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:09 pm

I should add that feeding material into a 20,000 RPM TCT cutter by hand is
not to be taken lightly, the specific cutter used is a Flush Trim Cutter Bottom Bearing.
I make a beach wood template of the part, then using strong double sided sticky tape
stick this template to the top side of the Aluminium, the cutter has a bearing guide, that
when cutting the aluminium eventually the bearing will rest up to the wood template on top side
of alloy, giving an exact match of part.

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Re: Bug Out Cart Resource Thread

Post by Zed Hunter » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:19 pm

Look at the game cart/shooting seat by Discount ramps. I own one and plan to make a gun cart ad on for it.

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