abelru wrote:Also, what is the shelf life of the reconstituted solution? How would you store it? How to you store the constituent components?
ModernSurvivalOnline Article wrote:In closing, I think it’s safe to assume that the solution should be used within 24 hours and any leftover discarded since it doesn’t contain any preservatives or antibacterials. With practice and the materials handy it only takes about 20 minutes to make more. I created a small kit with all the supplies, including pre-weighed lidocaine packets in tiny zip-loc bags that are clearly marked, in case I need to make it in a hurry. Hope no one ever needs to.
ModernSurvivalOnline Article wrote:Lidocaine Hydrochloride (HCL) powder is available in lab grades from online distributors if you can’t obtain it in USP grade. You want “Lidocaine HCL” which is water soluble, not the straight “Lidocaine powder” or “Lidocaine base” which isn’t. It should be stored at room temperature according to its Material Safety Data Sheet, and has no predetermined shelf life or expiration date if stored in an airtight container – or at least none that I’ve been able to determine anyway.
It helps to read the source material. It might answer your questions.
While I am not planning to try this, I have to give the author some props for thinking outside the box, and testing it on himself. The recipe sounds plausible, and the concept reasonable.
Might have some merit for the prepper/survivalist, you want something that can sit on the shelf or at the bottom of your bag unused for years, and still work. My BOL inside temps (unheated, when not there) varies from about -20 to 80F, the ingredients would last a lot longer than the Rx, and reconstitute it if needed. Buried caches too?
Not at the top of my list of must haves, but I'd prefer having some if the Mrs was coming at me with a dental extractor in her hands
This is my general thoughts too. For someone with training and other medical equipment this might be a reasonable concept. Could be useful but not top priority for me as I do not have the medical training to consider this kind of effort. However...
VXMerlinXV wrote:I think this falls into the category of "If society has degraded to the point where people are mixing their own lido, then the patient will most likely not survive the procedure due to lack of follow up care and general living conditions." I'd love to get on board with this, but I've seen too many adverse reactions and complications stemming from homemade injectables over the past few years.
I have to agree with this comment also, when things get this serious, do you really have the medical facilities and knowledge to give after care?
I think a lot of folks have been influenced by popular media. The ever so common scene of folks pulling a bullet out of a shoulder (in a motel/woods/cave/basement) and just bandaging it up and living on to continue fighting the bad guys is way over done. This is not reality though. Sure it makes for exciting TV or movie moments but the reality is very very different.
While I could see something like this benefiting someone who actually has training, for the lay person with no or minimal training, it is likely not going to really cut it.
One of the things I loved from the book Earth Abides was how the author explained how a lot of the deaths were not from the specific event but secondary deaths. Death due to lack of medical knowledge and ability to treat, from depression and lack of will to go on, from all sort of things we can deal with now but in PAW it decreases your chances drastically. Simple medical issues we take for granted these days will be life threatening in PAW. Medium medical issues will be a death sentence, and the big medical issues well obvious if simple and medium are trouble the big ones are worse.
What I can see something like this recipe used for. Easing the pain of someone while you wait for them to die. Sadly but seriously that is what it is most likely going to come down to. Easing pain for someone who you don't have the ability to save. And the harsh reality, shutting them up. In PAW you don't want an injured or sick person screaming in pain keeping every one awake or worse bringing the zombie horde down on your little group. If you have a pain killer, then you use it on the person you expect to die to ease their pain and to keep the rest of your group able to go on. I know it sounds harsh, but that is the reality of PAW, it is harsh.