Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

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Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by GoSlash27 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:12 pm

Thought you folks might like to see this...
This 96 was my first and favorite sidearm. It's fired thousands of rounds over the years with no complaints.

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As you can see, the case ruptured and blew the transfer bar out through the right side grip. The trigger, grip, and transfer bar spring are trashed, but thankfully there were no injuries and no other components damaged.

After a complete teardown with cleaning and inspection, I'm in the process of rebuilding it. Only major upgrade is a change to Hogue grips. I'll post a photo once it's finished.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Grey Mann » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:21 pm

Pfff....that'll buff right out. :crazy:

Seriously, though, that's some pretty awesome damage. Glad you're okay.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:25 pm

Have you figured out why it boomed yet?
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Badger24 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:22 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Have you figured out why it boomed yet?
Also how did it cause the trigger to break like that?

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by GoSlash27 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:33 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Have you figured out why it boomed yet?

Sadly, no. Even though I can pinpoint by the powder soot exactly where the blowout occurred, it still cycled and ejected the offending cartridge. I figure it either fired out-of-battery or a case ruptured.


Also how did it cause the trigger to break like that?
This one I do know. When the transfer bar blew out, it applied forward and torsion to the trigger trunnion. The forward pressure slammed the trigger against the inside of the guard, snapping it in half.
One advantage to having the plastic trigger vs. the metal one; a metal trigger would've cracked the frame.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:39 pm

I personally would not consider rebuilding it until I knew what caused it and had the frame checked by a pro.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by 400 Grains » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:25 am

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:I personally would not consider rebuilding it until I knew what caused it and had the frame checked by a pro.
Ditto.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by GoSlash27 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:13 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:I personally would not consider rebuilding it until I knew what caused it and had the frame checked by a pro.
Duly noted, but 1) I will never know why it KB'd and 2) the frame is fine.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by yossarian » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:23 pm

What does the slide look like? Factory ammo? Do you still have the case?
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:41 pm

GoSlash27 wrote:
Doctorr Fabulous wrote:I personally would not consider rebuilding it until I knew what caused it and had the frame checked by a pro.
Duly noted, but 1) I will never know why it KB'd and 2) the frame is fine.
How do you know the frame is fine? What steps hav you taken to ensure the same problm that caused your pistol to fly into pieces in your hand didn't damage the frame? If you're well-acquainted with stress fractures and detecting them on finished surfaces, then disregard and I apologize for doubting you. Bare minimum, assuming it was factory ammo an suff I'd contact Beretta about getting it rebuilt. If it was a handload or you did something Beretta would tell you not to then disregard all of the above.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by ultra magnus » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:48 pm

I don't think I could bring myself to trust any gun after it personally KB'd on me.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Iowa_guy » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:36 pm

GoSlash27 wrote:Thought you folks might like to see this...
This 96 was my first and favorite sidearm. It's fired thousands of rounds over the years with no complaints.

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Holy hell and maybe wear gloves. I would imagine you got dinged with something on the hand.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by alpha_texas1969 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:46 pm

Im amazed you dont have a nasty rip or hole in your hand.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by JPBeck » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:34 pm

It's none of my business, but I would send it to Beretta USA and have them look at it. They have X-rays that will at the very least be able to see any cracks in the frame or the slide. I'm sure they would want to know about this.

I tasted a issued Beretta slide (it knocked out my 2 front teeth and chipped another), and it doesn't suite my taste buds. They have since fixed that widely experienced problem. They would hate to see anyone get hurt with their firearms, and I'm sure they will be more then happy to look at your sidearm.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by synergyperf » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:17 pm

i had my first AR go KB on me (luckily no injury to anyone)... I'm with some of the others on not being so quick to "trust" the frame without an almost forensic lookover. It may cycle any normal rounds fine, but what if you were to have another failure like this one.. the frame survived this one, but how would it fare against another? Obviously, you're gonna do what you're gonna do, and I'm probably overly cautious when it comes to possible disfigurement or loss of life and limb.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by dustycanuck » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:27 pm

Holy Hell!
Glad you're ok.

+1 (or whatever it's up to now) on contacting Beretta.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Viper shtf » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:10 pm

Were you shooting handloads? Or hot factory ammo like Buffalo Bore?
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Paladin1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:07 pm

Damn, glad you're OK.

Thank goodness it was a Beretta and not a Glock or this thread would have gone on for 14 pages, then be L&B. :lol:
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Towanda » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:28 pm

Glad you're all right. I'm with the "get it looked at" crowd.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by ironraven » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:50 am

GoSlash27 wrote: I'm in the process of rebuilding it.
:shock: I'm in the get it checked crowd. If it blew that hard, I'm not sure I'd salvage anything from it other than the sights.
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by Ansgar » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:12 pm

I have to give a +1 to the "get it looked at" consensus. The last thing you want is to finish rebuilding it only to have it blow up on you again and possibly hurt someone. Glad you came out of it unharmed.

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by xLionx » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:17 pm

Retire it into a display box with a plaque that reads "no injuries"
and buy a new one

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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by IceWing » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:21 pm

Contact Beretta. They're going to want to look at it.

If they don't, then I'd be concerned...
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Re: Kaboomed my Beretta 96 :(

Post by NamelessStain » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:09 am

In the IT world, we start troubleshooting like this:

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Keep us updated bud. I'd like to hear how the manufacturer handles this one.
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