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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby deadflesh96 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:23 am

I think everyone hit the nail on the head. Especially the part about going full retard. I saw that pricey paperweights and thought how useless. I have a single rail on my handguard for my foregrip and I've got room for my bipod if I need it. Nothing fancy but gets the job done. I figured everyone would get a kick out of the promote video.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Niblick » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:14 pm

Don't hate cause Roy is everything you'll never be.

All that demo video did was make me think of how many times I could possibly shoot that guy will he was finger f'ing his rail system and bipod.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:25 am

Props to the company for introducing something new to the market, even if it is a niche area.

I wonder how many here so quick their negative feedback (if some of the comments even qualify as that) are the type to get all excited when someone posts their new rifle with all the repetitive gear you've seen in the last thousand 'my new rifle' threads?

Unless you are gearing up for a battlefield, why are you so worried if something has a battlefield capability. Lots of irony around here when it comes to bashing companies trying new ideas.

I'm sure some of you get all hot and moist when some company puts out an advert for "Our quad raid is innovation at work! Like nothing you've ever seen!" and its the same quad rail as the last company, but they use triangle vents instead of circles. :clap:

Everyone should do their part to stop perpetuating the Pier 1 operator mentality. :words:
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:41 am

ZOMBIE308 wrote:Props to the company for introducing something new to the market, even if it is a niche area.

I wonder how many here so quick their negative feedback (if some of the comments even qualify as that) are the type to get all excited when someone posts their new rifle with all the repetitive gear you've seen in the last thousand 'my new rifle' threads?

Unless you are gearing up for a battlefield, why are you so worried if something has a battlefield capability. Lots of irony around here when it comes to bashing companies trying new ideas.

I'm sure some of you get all hot and moist when some company puts out an advert for "Our quad raid is innovation at work! Like nothing you've ever seen!" and its the same quad rail as the last company, but they use triangle vents instead of circles. :clap:

Everyone should do their part to stop perpetuating the Pier 1 operator mentality. :words:

I've always been nice so don't take this the wrong way but it's Tier one.

Also, we recanted our hate for the stainless steel canteen shaped canteen for yuppies. Mind you that was like 3 years ago.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:05 am

My play on words was not a typo. :crazy:

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Hell we could take our product, slap a big lime green zombie decal on it, and boost initial sales by 1000%

Innovation is not going to happen by continuing to not encouraging new ideas, but rather furthering more demand for plastic junk from China or the same old recycled rifle furniture, but with different shapes molded in or cut out.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Unorthodox » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:09 am

ZOMBIE308 wrote:Unless you are gearing up for a battlefield, why are you so worried if something has a battlefield capability.


I generally don't like my shit breaking when I drop to roll over prone and my rifle bounces off the ground.

I'm sure some of you get all hot and moist when some company puts out an advert for "Our quad raid is innovation at work! Like nothing you've ever seen!" and its the same quad rail as the last company, but they use triangle vents instead of circles.


Citation needed please.

Everyone should do their part to stop perpetuating the Pier 1 operator mentality. :words:


You're more than welcome to make all the crap you want to make. Whether or not you can pitch your novelty gag here is another matter entirely. Everyone should do their part not to get butthurt when their bread and butter gets torn apart by people here actually looking to use gear as opposed to just looking pretty.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:10 am

ZOMBIE308 wrote:My play on words was not a typo. :crazy:

It prolly should have been, that was a pretty laboured pun.

So are you gonna have a chick in a tank top, an "operater" and a metric fuckton of MOLLE in your YT videomercial when the Watchamacallit goes into production?

Seems to be the way to go, bro.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:14 am

Oh, you added the image afterwards by way of explanation... see there I was thinking you were going for a witty lemmings and jetties thing.

My bad.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:17 am

Wow, I guess I'll keep replying to your edits...

DO YOU EVEN READ WHAT GOES ON HERE? AS A RULE ZS HATES THAT GREEN ZOMBIE CRAP. I feel I needed to yell that for some reason.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:19 am

Unorthodox wrote:I generally don't like my shit breaking when I drop to roll over prone and my rifle bounces off the ground.


Since when does something have to be military grade for this? I mean whatever you want to think is fine, that is your right, but what you describe should not call for the Navy Seals stamp of approval.

Citation needed please.


General statement, but I think you know exactly what I am referring to. We are all part of numerous gun forums, this is a typical day in the "photo or pics" section of said forum.

You're more than welcome to make all the crap you want to make. Whether or not you can pitch your novelty gag here is another matter entirely. Everyone should do their part not to get butthurt when their bread and butter gets torn apart by people here actually looking to use gear as opposed to just looking pretty.


Oh no, not the word butt-hurt. :gonk:

Anyhow, there is a difference between negative feedback and just barfing up a bunch of insults. At least people like this are trying to do something.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:19 am

Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Wow, I guess I'll keep replying to your edits...

DO YOU EVEN READ WHAT GOES ON HERE? AS A RULE ZS HATES THAT GREEN ZOMBIE CRAP. I feel I needed to yell that for some reason.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby AUA » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:30 am

ZOMBIE308 wrote:Props to the company for introducing something new to the market, even if it is a niche area.

I wonder how many here so quick their negative feedback (if some of the comments even qualify as that) are the type to get all excited when someone posts their new rifle with all the repetitive gear you've seen in the last thousand 'my new rifle' threads?

Unless you are gearing up for a battlefield, why are you so worried if something has a battlefield capability. Lots of irony around here when it comes to bashing companies trying new ideas.

I'm sure some of you get all hot and moist when some company puts out an advert for "Our quad raid is innovation at work! Like nothing you've ever seen!" and its the same quad rail as the last company, but they use triangle vents instead of circles. :clap:

Everyone should do their part to stop perpetuating the Pier 1 operator mentality. :words:


To be fair, I've been stalking these forums for about a year, and I've never seen anyone get excited about rails. Most new rifle threads I've seen look more like this. There are quad rails in that thread, but they generally aren't stocked with more than the basic optic/red-dot and flashlight, and I don't see copious back-slapping over them.

I mean, with this rail, I suppose that you could mount a red-dot at 9 and a scope at 12, and then rotate the red-dot into 12 if needed, but at that point, it'd be easier to just have a dedicated red-dot magnifier or variable-mag red-dot/scope.

From my POV as a consumer, the idea sounds cool but isn't worth the $800, especially since a whole other AR could be built for that price. Maybe if I had $1000 disposable income every month or something...

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for free enterprise, but that cuts both ways; if they're going to charge $800, it needs to be something that is worth paying $800 for. I mean, even this thing is only $349.

This mentality also isn't limited to ZS, as seen in the comments section

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Innovation is one thing, but innovation implies an elegant solution to some sort of problem, which was alluded to on the very first page in one of the first posts of this thread.

"Solution finding a problem" is how one poster put it, and I'm hard-pressed to disagree.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:34 am

Nah, I'm not debating price or product per say - something is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

It just gets old when instead of saying, "Well I couldn't find a use for it" or "They are asking too much" and translate these thoughts into, "What a bunch of morons, no one will buy that. Full retard!"

Which touches off on another point, people who love to think their own opinion honestly speaks for the majority. :v:

Edit: I guess I'm just being an old fart with a public service announcement; try and conduct yourself the same way you would in person and don't contribute to the regurgitated garbage void known as anonymity on the internet. :wink:

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:40 am

Erin has her own YT channel...



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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:17 pm

It prolly should have been, that was a pretty laboured pun.

So are you gonna have a chick in a tank top, an "operater" and a metric fuckton of MOLLE in your YT videomercial when the Watchamacallit goes into production?

Seems to be the way to go, bro.


Sorry, missed this response.

I'm assuming the chick you are referring to is my wife. Sadly she cannot do any action heavy stuff for us because she walks with a cane due to her cancer treatment about 2 years ago. (On a side note, we will be donating 10% of our profits to local cancer centers)

We plan to release two videos coming up soon with our new found love of the GoPro HD Hero 2 camera and Adobe AE. One will be a typical action, eye candy production stuff and the second will be more of a technical video; the latter will display that my 5 year old daughter can shoot the rifle with ease in one scene.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:43 pm

ZOMBIE308 wrote:
It prolly should have been, that was a pretty laboured pun.

So are you gonna have a chick in a tank top, an "operater" and a metric fuckton of MOLLE in your YT videomercial when the Watchamacallit goes into production?

Seems to be the way to go, bro.


Sorry, missed this response.

I'm assuming the chick you are referring to is my wife.

Actually I was referring to the chick in the nautilus videomercial that was referenced in at least three other posts in this thread about (you'll never guess) the nautilus rail.

Sadly she cannot do any action heavy stuff for us because she walks with a cane due to her cancer treatment about 2 years ago. (On a side note, we will be donating 10% of our profits to local cancer centers)

We plan to release two videos coming up soon with our new found love of the GoPro HD Hero 2 camera and Adobe AE. One will be a typical action, eye candy production stuff and the second will be more of a technical video; the latter will display that my 5 year old daughter can shoot the rifle with ease in one scene.

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Yeah, that's admirable. Personally if it was me I wouldn't be putting my family out there like that... what with all the bad press and hatin' and all that but that's just me.

Regardless, I'm tryna be nice, the nautilus got hated on because it is marketed as a tactical accessory by a company with tactical in their name using words like, "your critical accessories"... that says mil. spec fightin' tool. Novelty: yes, mil. spec fightin' tool: no. It's funny so we laugh at it.

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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby ZOMBIE308 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:51 pm

She volunteered and it saves us some money on the advertising budget! :crazy:
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby AKFTW » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:51 am

Clearly, this is so you can mount 4 M203s at once and fire 4 grenades without reloading. Clearly y'all are not operating in operations high speed enough to require this product :clownshoes:
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Dasho101 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:06 am

AKFTW wrote:Clearly, this is so you can mount 4 M203s at once and fire 4 grenades without reloading. Clearly y'all are not operating in operations high speed enough to require this product :clownshoes:


Wow that is the most wrong idea ever..... I so wanna try it now.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:37 am

Innovation: Yes, there will be dumb ideas, and they are hilarious., Dumb ideas pretending to be the next big thing should be laughed at. If it's really innovative, then it will survive regardless *cough*AR platform*cough*Polymer Frame Guns*cough*

Rotating rail: The queen in me wants to add LEDs and shiny stuff and a motor, and see if I can fuck with other shooters with a discoball AR. The badass in me wants a drill-motor and a bunch of bayonets. Or chainsaw bayonets... Basically there is no real use for this POS.

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Citation needed.

Well, I have a MIAD grip and CTR stock on my DD AR, and a stack of PMags. I guess I'm a MagPul Queen, but my rifle looks good in that polymer, so there.
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Re: Nautilus Rotating Rail

Postby A.C.E. » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:37 pm

I just love gimmicky stuff, this however is a bit over the top, even for me. It seems heavy and awkward with no actual benefits. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to waste time fiddling with that thing during a compertition, and I have a hard time seeing a soldier wanting to strap MORE junk to his rig.

And I sorta got stuck at the laser maintaining zero thing...

If you're trying to prove the accuracy of a sight, then maybe you should have a shooter capable of hitting what he's aiming at. He was shooting at a relatively close range from a bench with a bipod, he took his time with the shots and still spread them all over the target. More experienced AR shooters can correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't those holes almost touch?
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