All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

[0122358]

ok:

BCM mid length upper-500
mid length handguards- 20
BCM bolt-160
Troy rear BUiS-120
Troy Ambi Mag/Bolt releases- 100*
VTAC sling, muzzle brake, recoil pad- 100*
*additional options since i bilogically have to shoot lefty and to reduce recoil for faster follow up shots

Total 800-1000
800-1000 bucks for a good basic fighting rifle when i use my Olympic Arms lower reciever group....Then once i can afford it i'll build my own PSA lower group and slap my BCM upper on it and then have two ARs. One for fighting, One for training/plinking

sounds good?

[Regular Guy]

ok:

BCM mid length upper-500
mid length handguards- 20
BCM bolt-160
Troy rear BUiS-120
Troy Ambi Mag/Bolt releases- 100*
VTAC sling, muzzle brake, recoil pad- 100*
*additional options since i bilogically have to shoot lefty and to reduce recoil for faster follow up shots

Total 800-1000
800-1000 bucks for a good basic fighting rifle when i use my Olympic Arms lower reciever group....Then once i can afford it i'll build my own PSA lower group and slap my BCM upper on it and then have two ARs. One for fighting, One for training/plinking

sounds good?

IMO, pass on the muzzle brake and recoil pad. AR-15s don't recoil that much, use of a sling is much better at controlling recoil as well as stance and grip on the rifle. The negatives of the muzzle brake by far out weight it's positives. Brakes are loud, add flash which kills night vision and are only useful if you need that extra 0.1 second. I highly suggest either a Vltor A1 or Vortex, both virtually eliminate flash.

[0122358]

ok:

BCM mid length upper-500
mid length handguards- 20
BCM bolt-160
Troy rear BUiS-120
Troy Ambi Mag/Bolt releases- 100*
VTAC sling, muzzle brake, recoil pad- 100*
*additional options since i bilogically have to shoot lefty and to reduce recoil for faster follow up shots

Total 800-1000
800-1000 bucks for a good basic fighting rifle when i use my Olympic Arms lower reciever group....Then once i can afford it i'll build my own PSA lower group and slap my BCM upper on it and then have two ARs. One for fighting, One for training/plinking

sounds good?

IMO, pass on the muzzle brake and recoil pad. AR-15s don't recoil that much, use of a sling is much better at controlling recoil as well as stance and grip on the rifle. The negatives of the muzzle brake by far out weight it's positives. Brakes are loud, add flash which kills night vision and are only useful if you need that extra 0.1 second. I highly suggest either a Vltor A1 or Vortex, both virtually eliminate flash.

not trying to flame or anything...but isnt recoil perception sort of subjective. What may seem like nothing to you may seem like well not a lot to me but still.

[Regular Guy]

not trying to flame or anything...but isnt recoil perception sort of subjective. What may seem like nothing to you may seem like well not a lot to me but still.

Sure it is. However, the AR-15 is very light recoiling. I'd advise working on your stance and use of sling rather than a muzzle device and a recoil pad. Muzzle brakes on ARs are not mean to reduce recoil but to keep the muzzle on target during rapid fire.
So if you're dumping 6 rds into a target at 10m and you want stay on target a muzzle brake can help but your stance and use of a sling has to be there too. I just want to suggest using technique over gear.

[0122358]

not trying to flame or anything...but isnt recoil perception sort of subjective. What may seem like nothing to you may seem like well not a lot to me but still.

Sure it is. However, the AR-15 is very light recoiling. I'd advise working on your stance and use of sling rather than a muzzle device and a recoil pad. Muzzle brakes on ARs are not mean to reduce recoil but to keep the muzzle on target during rapid fire.
So if you're dumping 6 rds into a target at 10m and you want stay on target a muzzle brake can help but your stance and use of a sling has to be there too. I just want to suggest using technique over gear.

which makes sence becuase if i can improve with out more gear, it means ultimatly im a better marksman

[Warriorpwnsyou]

So I was going to kick up my own thread, then I saw this and figured it couldn't be any more dedicated to what I need... And that's help finding a complete lower assembly. I'm sure I'll get a bunch of "instead of that, why don't you..." replies, but truth is I'm stubborn and what I've chosen for an upper is an Adams Arms .223 16" upper, now I need a lower. Looking for a solid set up for under $400. I've been trying to get ahold of a Spike's Tactical, seeing how their warehouse isn't but 30 minutes from my home town, but it seems that like every other arms manufacturing company around, their demand far exceeds their supply. In short:

Looking for suggestions on a AR .223 complete lower for under $400... Anyone?

[nimdabew]

BCM complete lower

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[RickOShea]

So I was going to kick up my own thread, then I saw this and figured it couldn't be any more dedicated to what I need... And that's help finding a complete lower assembly. I'm sure I'll get a bunch of "instead of that, why don't you..." replies, but truth is I'm stubborn and what I've chosen for an upper is an Adams Arms .223 16" upper, now I need a lower. Looking for a solid set up for under $400. I've been trying to get ahold of a Spike's Tactical, seeing how their warehouse isn't but 30 minutes from my home town, but it seems that like every other arms manufacturing company around, their demand far exceeds their supply. In short:

Looking for suggestions on a AR .223 complete lower for under $400... Anyone?

Plenty of 'em out there for well below $400.

I presume that you mean "complete" with stock assembly, but which one in particular (A1, A2, M4, MOE, etc, etc...) ?

[majorhavoc]

not trying to flame or anything...but isnt recoil perception sort of subjective. What may seem like nothing to you may seem like well not a lot to me but still.

True 'nuff that. But as a very new gun owner, I was shocked by how little recoil my AR had (my Beeman RS2 spring piston pellet gun feels like it kicks more). And those bruises on my shoulder after shooting a fellow ZS'er's Mosin Nagant and 12 gauge shottie were hardly subjective.........

[Warriorpwnsyou]

I presume that you mean "complete" with stock assembly, but which one in particular (A1, A2, M4, MOE, etc, etc...) ?

My plan is to do the whole MOE thing (stock and pistol grip). So while it'd be nice to find one already set up, like Spike's are, I'd have no problem with just adding them later. I guess what I'm really asking for is where to purchase from... I've seen plenty of complete lowers "for sale" only to find that they're currently put of stock. Talk about cock blocking

[US_Army_Z28]

not trying to flame or anything...but isnt recoil perception sort of subjective. What may seem like nothing to you may seem like well not a lot to me but still.

True 'nuff that. But as a very new gun owner, I was shocked by how little recoil my AR had (my Beeman RS2 spring piston pellet gun feels like it kicks more). And those bruises on my shoulder after shooting a fellow ZS'er's Mosin Nagant and 12 gauge shottie were hardly subjective.........

Yeah ar's hhave about as much kick as a .22 now my mossberg 500 will dislocate your damn shoulder if you aint got a good form with it lol

[Makarov]

I presume that you mean "complete" with stock assembly, but which one in particular (A1, A2, M4, MOE, etc, etc...) ?

My plan is to do the whole MOE thing (stock and pistol grip). So while it'd be nice to find one already set up, like Spike's are, I'd have no problem with just adding them later. I guess what I'm really asking for is where to purchase from... I've seen plenty of complete lowers "for sale" only to find that they're currently put of stock. Talk about cock blocking

Complete PSA MOE edition lower, $299. In stock.

[Lucas_061287]

Haven't been on this forum in ages, so I figured I'd poke my head in and say hello, as well as update the specs of my current build, which apparently has been falling out of a Magpul tree, hitting every branch on the way down.

Parts I have
-Legion Firearms forged upper and lower (currently being Cerakoted Patriot Brown by Chris)
-Daniel Defense 14.5" CHF midlength gov profile barrel (1:7, chrome lined obviously) w/ F Marked FSB
-RRA 2 stage trigger and LPK
-BAD-ASS 45* ambi safety selector (seeing that the Legion lower is pre-cut for it, I couldn't resist)
-Magpul MOE midlength handguards*
-Magpul MOE pistol grip*
-Magpul MVG vertical grip*
-Magpul STR stock*
-Magpul MOE Scout light mount*
-Magpul MOE trigger guard* (The important things)

Parts I need
-Bolt carrier group, probably going with a Legion nickel boron assembly
-Either Phase 5 ambi or BCM Mod4 charging handle (haven't decided)
-Barrel nut/delta ring assembly as well as front handguard retainer cap
-Midlength gas tube
-Milspec buffer assembly (probably going with LMT) with a PWS/Spikes T2 buffer
-Upper parts kit
-Muzzle device to permattach- either an AAC Brakeout, or one of the BattleComp's with 51T AAC adaptability
-Either a Magpul BAD Lever, or Phase 5 EBRv2
-Magpul ASAP
-Magpul MSA
-Magpul MS3 sling- After actually using a similar setup, I actually like the MS3. I HATED the MS2. If the MS3 ends up not being what I want, I'll probably go back to either a VTAK MK2 or VCAS.
-Troy rear sight
-EOTech XPS2-0 or EXPS2-0, though I'm leaning toward the latter.
-VTAC L4 (basically a Surefire E2 with a Z68 tailcap)
-VLTOR light mount (non offset, as the Magpul scout mount takes care of positioning PERFECTLY)

The aim for this build is simple- all the things I like to have on a defensive carbine, without going "all out" like I did on my last build. This will be a workhorse. Something I can beat the shit out of on a regular basis, without feeling too bad about it (not that I mind tossing a nice rig onto the deck, just ask my last build lol).

The * above are going to be dipped in hydro transfer ATACS camo (again, the important things).

[jdbl14]

Would I be able to put a 12" omega rail on a midlength 16" upper? I am pretty sure their website says it is not to be used with low pro gas blocks.

I ask because I am pretty sure that I have seen photos of the omega mounted over low profile gas blocks.

[KentsOkay]

What weight buffer do PSA build kits come with? The classic kit is on sale $90 right now.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-build-kit-sale/palmetto-state-armory-classic-lower-build-kit.html

[majorhavoc]

What weight buffer do PSA build kits come with? The classic kit is on sale $90 right now.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-build-kit-sale/palmetto-state-armory-classic-lower-build-kit.html

Wish I could tell you for sure; I just checked mine but there isn't any kind of markings on it (besides the classy PSA logo on the buffer face).

I'd have to think it would be a carbine weight buffer. Without knowing what the end user is going to build, that's far and away the most prevalent build.

[Glockman]

Okay guys, I need help deciding what BCM upper to get. I am trying to decide between the standard 16" mid length lightweight upper, or the 14.5" mid length lightweight with permanently attached flash hider. I am wondering the benefits, if any, to having the 16" as opposed to the 14.5".

Thanks!

[williaty]

Slightly higher muzzle velocity, which translates into increased effective range. Greater ease of changing things on the barrel later since the flash suppressor doesn't have to be pinned/welded. You have to have the length anyway, why not get some benefit out of it?

[Warriorpwnsyou]

Complete PSA MOE edition lower, $299. In stock.

Thanks Mak, PSA lower is on its way to my local shop, Adams Arms 16" is on its way to my front door, along with 4 Windowed Pmags. Now I need some advice with optics... I was looking into a Leupold Mark AR Rifle Scope 1.5-4x 20mm. Anyone have experience with Leupold's on a .223 set up?

[KentsOkay]

What weight buffer do PSA build kits come with? The classic kit is on sale $90 right now.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-build-kit-sale/palmetto-state-armory-classic-lower-build-kit.html

Wish I could tell you for sure; I just checked mine but there isn't any kind of markings on it (besides the classy PSA logo on the buffer face).

I'd have to think it would be a carbine weight buffer. Without knowing what the end user is going to build, that's far and away the most prevalent build.

16 barrelled midlength gas sytem fightin' carbine that eats dirty russian steel ammo for breakfast, lunch dinner, and midnight snacks.

[majorhavoc]

What weight buffer do PSA build kits come with? The classic kit is on sale $90 right now.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-build-kit-sale/palmetto-state-armory-classic-lower-build-kit.html

Wish I could tell you for sure; I just checked mine but there isn't any kind of markings on it (besides the classy PSA logo on the buffer face).

I'd have to think it would be a carbine weight buffer. Without knowing what the end user is going to build, that's far and away the most prevalent build.

16 barrelled midlength gas sytem fightin' carbine that eats dirty russian steel ammo for breakfast, lunch dinner, and midnight snacks.

You just described my AR. Whatever the hell buffer weight it is, the PSA lower build kit will serve you just fine.

[KentsOkay]

What weight buffer do PSA build kits come with? The classic kit is on sale $90 right now.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-build-kit-sale/palmetto-state-armory-classic-lower-build-kit.html

Wish I could tell you for sure; I just checked mine but there isn't any kind of markings on it (besides the classy PSA logo on the buffer face).

I'd have to think it would be a carbine weight buffer. Without knowing what the end user is going to build, that's far and away the most prevalent build.

16 barrelled midlength gas sytem fightin' carbine that eats dirty russian steel ammo for breakfast, lunch dinner, and midnight snacks.

You just described my AR. Whatever the hell buffer weight it is, the PSA lower build kit will serve you just fine.

Sweet.

[hatchtrikk]

I asked on the Chat Thread, but I'll ask here as well.

What do you guys think about this rail for the wife's RECCE?

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/d ... ct_id=3112


I plan to go with the Surefire RTS sights and a Harris bipod on a 16" Noveske N4.

[Regular Guy]

I asked on the Chat Thread, but I'll ask here as well.

What do you guys think about this rail for the wife's RECCE?

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/d ... ct_id=3112


I plan to go with the Surefire RTS sights and a Harris bipod on a 16" Noveske N4.

I think it's $100 more than a Troy Alpha that's on sale right now @ PSA for 20% off with free shipping for absolutely no good reason. Yes, I'm pimping Troy, I have two of these rails and plan on buying a few more. Simple, thin, light and strong.