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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:48 pm

Anyone know of a place that has 2MOA dot AimPoint Micro H1s in stock currently? Midway USA and VTSSupply are out: I don't use very many gun sites (I have my very select go-tos), so I don't know where else to check. I imagine anything on Cheaper Than Dirt (didn't bother) is a Chinese copy, likewise with any auction sites. Vere most I go fur ze' AimPoint?!
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:20 pm



Must have gotten in some more since I last checked on Friday. I'll have my friendly, local gun store order one for me. I like going in there to pick stuff up: gives me an excuse to talk to the guys there. They're pretty cool, but I feel awkward just going in taking up time talking and not really doing anything. :?
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby AKFTW » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:01 pm

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Must have gotten in some more since I last checked on Friday. I'll have my friendly, local gun store order one for me. I like going in there to pick stuff up: gives me an excuse to talk to the guys there. They're pretty cool, but I feel awkward just going in taking up time talking and not really doing anything. :?


I always buy SOMETHING whenever I go in, even if it's just a few targets or a bottle of gun oil.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:21 pm

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Must have gotten in some more since I last checked on Friday. I'll have my friendly, local gun store order one for me. I like going in there to pick stuff up: gives me an excuse to talk to the guys there. They're pretty cool, but I feel awkward just going in taking up time talking and not really doing anything. :?


I always buy SOMETHING whenever I go in, even if it's just a few targets or a bottle of gun oil.



I went in today to talk to them about AimPoint locations. The previous time I was in before that was because they repaired my van (auto shop/gun store). I always purchase something when I'm in there unless I'm on a mission to photograph markings on bring-back weapons to see what's up: I did that once or twice for the guys on the P38 forums, but neither time was it what they were looking for.


Oh, and that reminds me: I have a pin loose on my front sight block. It's the one above the barrel that (I assume) holds the muzzle device plunger in place. Do I just Loctite it back into place? It moves a tiny bit (doesn't come out, but moves about 1mm or 2mm out) and I don't want it to just fall out on me.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:43 pm

Polley wrote:I have a pin loose on my front sight block. It's the one above the barrel that (I assume) holds the muzzle device plunger in place. Do I just Loctite it back into place? It moves a tiny bit (doesn't come out, but moves about 1mm or 2mm out) and I don't want it to just fall out on me.

I think those are loose on both mine, as well. Don't fuck with it, nothing is wrong unless the pin can actually slide out.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:45 pm

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Polley wrote:I have a pin loose on my front sight block. It's the one above the barrel that (I assume) holds the muzzle device plunger in place. Do I just Loctite it back into place? It moves a tiny bit (doesn't come out, but moves about 1mm or 2mm out) and I don't want it to just fall out on me.

I think those are loose on both mine, as well. Don't fuck with it, nothing is wrong unless the pin can actually slide out.


I'm thinking I'll just Loctite it on the larger side (left). I figure if I have to ever remove it, a punch and a small hammer can negate the Loctite's influences on it. I doubt I'll ever have to do that, however, so I'm thinking Loctite should be fine. Besides, it's my $1,600.00 rifle: I'll break it if I want to.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:33 pm

Polley wrote:Besides, it's my $1,600.00 rifle: I'll break it if I want to.

:lol: 'At a boy! You go right ahead and kick sand in Mikhail's face! :lol:

Seriously, before you go fixing shit, ask yourself: "Is this really broken?"

Please document what you do for us, though. If that plunger stops moving, we'll want to know what to point-and-laugh at :wink:
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Dave_M » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:42 pm

Polley wrote:I went in today to talk to them about AimPoint locations.


Oh Newton!--please don't think the guys that work at the local gun shop know shit, dick, or ass about guns. They might know about your Ford Explorer but that doesn't mean they have any meaningful input on Aimpoint locations. I'll quote myself when I say, "The guys at the local gunshop aren't exactly fountainheads of knowledge" (And I say that with good damn reason!)

With only some small exception, guys that work at gun shops don't know shit--other than selling shit to people don't need it, which feeds their commissions.

It's more exact to think of them as insurance (or Amyway, or Nigerian bank) salesmen rather than people selling guns. Seriously.

Anyone who is honest and has sold firearms in a shop will tell you the same. That I promise.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:50 pm

I asked this question on the NFA thread and I figure I'll ask here as well.

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hatchtrikk wrote:Alright guys, I think the time is coming for me to get a suppressor.

I'm only going to buy one for now so here is my dilemma.

Firearms I would like to suppress: Draco AK, 14mmLH thread, 7.62x39
10.5 SBR AR, standard thread
AKS74U, 24mm thread, 5.45x39
SGL21, 24mm thread, 7.62x39


Is there a 'one size fits all' or do I need to bite the bullet and purchase multiples?



I'm leaning towards this one: http://www.huntertownarms.com/k762ak.php

Also, I am not opposed to different brands and/or being told that I should just own multiple suppressors for the different platforms.

Thoughts/suggestions?
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:55 pm

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Polley wrote:I went in today to talk to them about AimPoint locations.


Oh Newton!--please don't think the guys that work at the local gun shop know shit, dick, or ass about guns. They might know about your Ford Explorer but that doesn't mean they have any meaningful input on Aimpoint locations. I'll quote myself when I say, "The guys at the local gunshop aren't exactly fountainheads of knowledge" (And I say that with good damn reason!)

With only some small exception, guys that work at gun shops don't know shit--other than selling shit to people don't need it, which feeds their commissions.



Well, I figure they know a bit since one of their best shooting buddies has a 10" SBR AR-15 with a suppressor and AimPoint of some kind and the owners are the local supervisors of the 4-H shooting sports -- they know their way around NFA items and lever-actions alike. I've been to a few gun shops and gun shows, and I can quite confidently say that the folks I talked with at the local gun shop are probably the least retarded dealers I've ever met. :lol: The father is into hunting stuff and cowboy action shooting and the son is into the "tactical" (but not mall-ninja) stuff considering me location: AR-15s, AKs, NFA stuff, things like that. I mentioned Midway was sold out (no longer the case) before they recommended this "Plan B," but they did say that they weren't too sure anyway: the guy who had the AimPoints bought them a couple years ago. They're pretty honest folks, and if they don't know something, they'll tell you they don't. Fortunately, when they don't, they go about figuring it out ASAP.

Of course, I'm a tiny bit biased here since they're the local go-tos, but they really are far more informative than the majority of gun dealers I've had the pleasure (?) of talking to. I think I may have found one of those small exceptions, and I'm insanely thankful for it. :)


Aside from this local place, though, I'm going to have to agree with you. Cabela's, KCI Expo. during gun shows (going next weekend; let's see what stupidity occurs), pawn shops... I think I actually lose stored information in my brain after going to those places.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:45 am

hatchtrikk wrote:I'm leaning towards this one: http://www.huntertownarms.com/k762ak.php

Damn you, now I want a can...

That one looks pretty sweet to me, but I know jack and shit about cans :oops:

Polley wrote:Of course, I'm a tiny bit biased here since they're the local go-tos, but they really are far more informative than the majority of gun dealers I've had the pleasure (?) of talking to. I think I may have found one of those small exceptions, and I'm insanely thankful for it. :)

Glad you have a local shop with minimal idiocy, I've never been able to find one. My hobby at gun stores is to steer people with hard-earned money away from salespeople and pick their brains for what attributes they really need, then tell them why the G19 or AK fills those needs better than what the sales guy is going to try to sell them. So far, letting people shoot my SGL21's and G35's has convinced way more people than my incoherent babbling alone. While I learned a bit on active duty, I've stolen learned way more from Dave and the others here at ZS.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby shoggoth80 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:41 am

Hmmm....
Got a copy of the Adaptive Kalash video. I haven't watched it all yet... but it's already given me more food for thought in terms of how the rifle can be set up.
Does anyone have thoughts on the Krebs Custom Mark VI safety? It has a larger tab for thumb sweeping the safety on and off. Looks like it might add a little speed to the safety on/off mechanics. Kind of want one now.
Can the ARES sling drop into the AK without extra hassle? Got the MASH hook for the front, and thinking the read swivel would be more than adequate for any two point sling... though I might also have to experiment with placement/wrapping, or moving the swivel. Need to review that article a little more.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Polley » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:39 am

shoggoth80 wrote:Hmmm....
Got a copy of the Adaptive Kalash video. I haven't watched it all yet... but it's already given me more food for thought in terms of how the rifle can be set up.
Does anyone have thoughts on the Krebs Custom Mark VI safety? It has a larger tab for thumb sweeping the safety on and off. Looks like it might add a little speed to the safety on/off mechanics. Kind of want one now.
Can the ARES sling drop into the AK without extra hassle? Got the MASH hook for the front, and thinking the read swivel would be more than adequate for any two point sling... though I might also have to experiment with placement/wrapping, or moving the swivel. Need to review that article a little more.



I used a Blue Force 3" wire loop on my AK's front sling loop. Then I ran my Ares Armor Huskey through that. Works pretty well.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby RickOShea » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:10 am

shoggoth80 wrote:Hmmm....
Got a copy of the Adaptive Kalash video. I haven't watched it all yet... but it's already given me more food for thought in terms of how the rifle can be set up.

It's a pretty good DVD, but I still think Panteo charges too much for them. I really like how T-Bone goes a little more in-depth with "zeroes" at different ranges in his AR and AK videos.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:35 pm

shoggoth80 wrote:Can the ARES sling drop into the AK without extra hassle? Got the MASH hook for the front, and thinking the read swivel would be more than adequate for any two point sling... though I might also have to experiment with placement/wrapping, or moving the swivel. Need to review that article a little more.

You shouldn't NEED the mash hook for the front, I have the Ares just run right into the front point on one of my SGL21's.

If your rear point is at the bottom, it'll make things harder than they need to be. It really works against you.

This is where you want the rear sling point:

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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Brock Meatstone » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:07 pm

Poppin' in here real quick with another "test the waters" type question: Whats the good and bad about Yugo M70 underfolders?
I can't really seem to find a whole glut of information about them like you can with WASR's or Arsenals.
So far I've gathered they're made from thicker stampings, have non-chrome lined barrels, are imported irregularly and seem to be decent.
Obviously this is not the kind of objective, performance-related info I desire, so I figured I would ask those infinitely more qualified than myself to provide their expertise.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby AKFTW » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:50 pm

Brock Meatstone wrote:Poppin' in here real quick with another "test the waters" type question: Whats the good and bad about Yugo M70 underfolders?
I can't really seem to find a whole glut of information about them like you can with WASR's or Arsenals.
So far I've gathered they're made from thicker stampings, have non-chrome lined barrels, are imported irregularly and seem to be decent.
Obviously this is not the kind of objective, performance-related info I desire, so I figured I would ask those infinitely more qualified than myself to provide their expertise.


No Chrome=No Go. For a srs business rifle anyway. Furniture is also hard to get for it, though the Yugo length handguards may lend themselves to be more appropriate for modern rifle techniques. For a fun gun or interesting combloc piece, go for it, they're well typically well made, even the Century ones are OK. Shame about the lack of chrome though, pretty much the only deal breaker.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Brock Meatstone » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:59 pm

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Brock Meatstone wrote:Poppin' in here real quick with another "test the waters" type question: Whats the good and bad about Yugo M70 underfolders?
I can't really seem to find a whole glut of information about them like you can with WASR's or Arsenals.
So far I've gathered they're made from thicker stampings, have non-chrome lined barrels, are imported irregularly and seem to be decent.
Obviously this is not the kind of objective, performance-related info I desire, so I figured I would ask those infinitely more qualified than myself to provide their expertise.


No Chrome=No Go. For a srs business rifle anyway. Furniture is also hard to get for it, though the Yugo length handguards may lend themselves to be more appropriate for modern rifle techniques. For a fun gun or interesting combloc piece, go for it, they're well typically well made, even the Century ones are OK. Shame about the lack of chrome though, pretty much the only deal breaker.


Ah, yeah that was the one thing that rubbed me raw about it, too. If I find one for under 600 I have nothing but fun gun plans for it. I Generally I lean more toward the AR side of things for personal preference, but I've always wanted a compact, folding stock AK and I really like the way the Yugos handled.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby AKFTW » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:02 pm

I've shot a friend's Yugo underfolder a few times and I just can't bring myself to really enjoy shooting an underfolder. Some people love 'em. Just try and shoot one before you buy, you cannot swap stocks without major machine work.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Brock Meatstone » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:07 pm

Yeah, I hear ya. I do really like the width of the stock itself, it fit well into my shoulder during handling, but I'm worried about cheek weld for accurate shots, or maybe lack thereof. :?
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Kutter_0311 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:05 am

Brock Meatstone wrote:I've always wanted a compact, folding stock AK and I really like the way the Yugos handled.

The one I had was great. I don't think any good service rifle gets smaller. You'll get used to the stock.

Mine was my trunk gun forever. I kept it in a youth break-down shotgun case the size of a pool cue case.
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Re: The All Purpose AK Thread

Postby Lucas_061287 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:12 pm

So somebody please tell me why I got the idea in my head to sell my Arsenal SLR-107CR (Bulgy receiver, Bulgy triangle sidefolder)??? I really miss that gun. :(
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