Draco non-SBR, SBR kit

by **Polie** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:09 am

Just follow the link for ugly, but drool worthy information

http://www.cbrps.com/Products.html

by **OnFire** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:43 pm

I wish I had a link to the "I'm not sure if serious" Fry on my phone.

by **Polie** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:10 pm

Why? Its legit or are you being a smartass?

by **OnFire** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:30 pm

If that's what you're in to then by all means, it's a legitimate plinker. My comment was more directed at the goofy as shit look that thing has, not your interest in it.

by **Doctorr Fabulous** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:06 pm

Nothing about that is drool-worthy.

by **Spd164** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:44 pm

Doc Torr wrote:Nothing about that is drool-worthy.

Wait, maybe the OP meant that if you look at it long enough you loose so many brain cells that you start drooling involuntarily?

by **Polie** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:00 pm

Dont be an ass. If you dont like it fine, but look at the link theres a cool Saiga 12 bullpup.

by **Phoenix David** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:07 pm

I'm sure if they worked at it they could make it look worse. But this is American and you can make stupid crap and somebody will buy.

by **hatchtrikk** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:25 pm

IMO, that turns an already clumsy to use weapon into an uglier, clumsier weapon.

Fail all around. Pay the tax and stock it.

by **Bearcat** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:22 pm

Polie wrote:Dont be an ass. If you dont like it fine, but look at the link theres a cool Saiga 12 bullpup.

This is the internet, don't let people get to you. And yes, that thing looks like complete shit. All of their products do. If you really want to do cosplay comicon stuff, it's cheaper to use cardboard.

by **Polie** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:50 am

Bearcat wrote:
Polie wrote:Dont be an ass. If you dont like it fine, but look at the link theres a cool Saiga 12 bullpup.

This is the internet, don't let people get to you. And yes, that thing looks like complete shit. All of their products do. If you really want to do cosplay comicon stuff, it's cheaper to use cardboard.

The only thing I saw that might be a PIA was the Mosin stock. Everything else looked great. Bullpup designs are kinda cool, sorry you cant see that. You either like it or you don't, but the desgins are good even if you cant deal with the fact that it is a new idea. Hell if everyone hated new ideas and designs we all would be still driving carbureted engines vs efi. Learn to embrace new ideas, its the internet.

by **MacAttack** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:47 am

Its not a new idea.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct857.aspx

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011 ... pup-rifle/

http://www.impactguns.com/ak-bullpup-pa ... i1063.aspx

by **Polie** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:55 am

Uh, they look completely different, hence an new design.

MacAttack wrote:Its not a new idea.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct857.aspx

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011 ... pup-rifle/

http://www.impactguns.com/ak-bullpup-pa ... i1063.aspx

by **AKFTW** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:57 am

Sorry man. That thing is just

by **Doctorr Fabulous** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:02 am

I like some bullpups. Steyr AUG and the L85A1 are nice enough, but everytime someone bullpups an AK I have the same thought train.Marginal Trigger+shitty linkage+rock-in magazines=FOF every time. Even a G2 trigger couldn't de-shittify a bullpup trigger.

The $300 to throw a stock on a krink is money better spent. ($200 for the tax stamp, $100 for the stock and labor)

ETA: Just checked: $240 for that "bullpup" which appears to have no heat shield around the barrel, looks like it was made out of kydex (I hope it's not) and has square corners where a cheek-weld would occur. Ick.

by **Bearcat** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:11 am

Polie wrote:
Bearcat wrote:
Polie wrote:Dont be an ass. If you dont like it fine, but look at the link theres a cool Saiga 12 bullpup.

This is the internet, don't let people get to you. And yes, that thing looks like complete shit. All of their products do. If you really want to do cosplay comicon stuff, it's cheaper to use cardboard.

The only thing I saw that might be a PIA was the Mosin stock. Everything else looked great. Bullpup designs are kinda cool, sorry you cant see that. You either like it or you don't, but the desgins are good even if you cant deal with the fact that it is a new idea. Hell if everyone hated new ideas and designs we all would be still driving carbureted engines vs efi. Learn to embrace new ideas, its the internet.

Man, you are taking this too personally. There is nothing new about bullpups. They have been around for quite some time. I love the israeli tavor, partially because it was designed to be a bullpup, not retrofitted. These are not new designs, they are dress up kits to make your guns look "cool", (which is totally speculative) that's it.

by **MacAttack** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:23 am

They could have at least tried to make it look better.

There are serious flaws in the AK bull pup idea. And this one just adds more and doesn't remove any of of the old ones.

First its ONLY usable by a right handed shooter. The bolt handle will slap you in the face if used left handed. Can't use it off handed. No improvement.
The chamber opening is in right in your ear. Nice.
Its even more uncomfortable to use a drum mag.
Its now even harder to get to the safety. Its not like it was exactly intuitive before.
Poor cheek weld.
Need new sight system to even have one at all.

If you just want a shorter AK just put a folding stock on it.

oh and its butt ugly.