Any Studies into SHTF situations?

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Any Studies into SHTF situations?

Postby tshw1973 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:51 am

Im wondering if there are any published University / Government Agencies simulations into any type of SHTF situations? Im particularly interested in the Doomsday scenario whereby all resources fail (no electricity / water gas access to food etc) and people are left to fend for themselves. Im curious as to what would be envisaged to happen on a week by week (or even daily) situation.

Im guessing that there would be mass panic, followed by rioting / scavenging and it all goes fairly pear shaped. However it would probably stabilise after a few weeks (im guessing) and im wondering when this would happen.

I apologise if this has been posted before but I'm fairly new here.

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Re: Any Studies into SHTF situations?

Postby Kommander » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:14 am

There have been a number of scenarios run regarding nuclear attacks. Most of these date from the Cold War and many of them conclude with us getting into assless chaps territory. I did once read a scenario about the nuking of the Los Angeles port facilities. The projections were unpleasant to say the least.
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Re: Any Studies into SHTF situations?

Postby Dwizzle » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:19 am

Things have happened in different parts of the world, but it depends on the situation that you are talking about. SHTF could be many things. Personally I believe that something simple like running out of fuel could cause a breakdown of society, as portrayed in the movie "Tooth and Nail", where cannibalism ensues shortly after the world gas reserves are depleted. But in reality, when this situation occurred in Cuba, the public banded together to grow food and help each other. Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_ ... d_Peak_Oil I think it's hard to say exactly what would happen in certain situations, and I haven't really found any university studies on the topic. It's safe to say that mass panics would obviously follow nearly any disaster. During the 9/11 attacks, there was a lot of panic even all the way in my tiny Indiana town. Cars lined up buying gas, people were walking down the street smoking pot in the open, totally convinced that the world was ending. Lol, it didn't , and as soon as the one local cop was done directing traffic at the gas station, those kids went straight to jail, haha. But I think that situations would differ depending who (and where) you are. Some people freak out and begin looting, while others calmly wait indoors for things to settle down. Who Knows? Some people panic when the electricity goes out, while other people feel a sense of relief. It's hard to say. I would love to see a real scientific study, but I have not come across one yet.
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Re: Any Studies into SHTF situations?

Postby Tater Raider » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:44 am

Look at AAR's on Oklanhoma City, 9/11, and Katrina to see how they actually went down. I'm pretty sure that's about what to expect and actual, real-world results from these things beats any study done on, say, pandemic outbreak of a zombie virus.

Yes, the goverment has done studies on both pandemic and a zombie outbreak. No, I don't have the links.
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Re: Any Studies into SHTF situations?

Postby Robot » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:01 pm

I recently finished a C.E.R.T. certification course. One of the many things the instructors repeated was that even after a minor disaster, like a tornado or a train derailment, the local emergency services will be overwhelmed in 15 minutes. Which means the local population will not receive emergency services during an local disaster. This is why the F.E.M.A. started the C.E.R.T. program. So citizens have a means of helping themselves during a disaster. I believe the government has conduced studies, but have not released the findings to the public. But I think we already know what would really happen during/after a disaster without the government sighting a study.
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Re: Any Studies into SHTF situations?

Postby Tater Raider » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:17 pm

Robot wrote:I recently finished a C.E.R.T. certification course. One of the many things the instructors repeated was that even after a minor disaster, like a tornado or a train derailment, the local emergency services will be overwhelmed in 15 minutes. Which means the local population will not receive emergency services during an local disaster. This is why the F.E.M.A. started the C.E.R.T. program. So citizens have a means of helping themselves during a disaster. I believe the government has conduced studies, but have not released the findings to the public. But I think we already know what would really happen during/after a disaster without the government sighting a study.

They have released findings to the public, but you have to know how to get them. Freedom of Information Act is required sometimes.
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