Invasion Right Now! The first six hours, what would you do?

[Rev]

That would explain why we do not bother to patrol our northern border...

[squinty]

That would explain why we do not bother to patrol our northern border...

Don't we?

[Kommander]

That would explain why we do not bother to patrol our northern border...

Don't we?

*sigh*

Yes we do. Just not as heavily for obvious reasons.

[raptor]

OK BAE you are in charge of keeping an eye on that part of the Canadian Border.

Let us know if you see any overwhelming invasion forces building up.

I observed a Steller Sea Lion making a close-in recon patrol just this afternoon, the border is tense!

Keep us apprised of the situation, but do not endanger yourself comrade! Long live the Republic!

Hang in there bae I have called the 1st & 2nd Ocra Squadron based nearby to reinforce your right and left flanks.

[Crazy Wolf]

Being in Northern California, odds are pretty good that an invasion from Mexico could be stopped pretty well at the Tehachapis, As it's early spring, I doubt most of the Sierra Nevada's passes are open, so a naval invasion by San Francisco (Hah! Good luck!) or a mass insurrection by "sleeper" units could really be the only thing that'd wreck Northern California.

On a personal level, no one in my house has served in the military, and a lack of firearms means a complete lack of any potential paper trail to highlight us (if an occupation ever reached this far north). Assuming the US military'll take me, I'd be able to perhaps put my language abilities to the test. If they don't, there's plenty of other ways to support a cause or military offensive. Perhaps the lack of any formal ties to the US government would make it easier to gain the trust of the invaders and then subvert, impede, and cripple them from within. That probably would also carry a death sentence from either the US government, the invading government (if discovered) or US citizens/a resistance movement, so I'd have to be really convinced that a) the invaders are clearly in the wrong and b) that the inefficiencies and delays caused by my actions would be worth it.

I mean, thermite or molotov cocktails, practically anyone can make or throw. It takes effort to wear a suit and tie and create the appearance of betraying everything you've ever known for the sake of greed/political power in the new regime!

[zukidriver]

I have to say this is one of the best posts to read. A lot of good opinions here. Personally I think my actions in the first six hours would be similar to a lot of other peoples. With little to no communication due to the EMP's, the first step would to sit still and asses the situation and gather information. Then take inventory of local assests, and decide if it's safer to stay put or try and move out. If I decide to move out it would have to be on foot, and I would start to regroup with my family on the way home if safe.

[Slagathor]

From what I have read, and seen on TV, an EMP attack would bring us to our knees, it didnt appear to take much of a nuke either, send it or a couple up over central US, SPLODY!!!! Massive EMP.
With communication down from EMP's how would military mobilize???
Correct me if I am wrong......

I work swing shift, so hopefully I would be on 2nd or 3rd shift so I could be home when it happened, if not, it's a 30 mile hike home. But we do have plans if something should go wrong where to meet up then either bug out or stay put.
If possible, stay put till the group is together, if you have to move out we know where to go...


The last place I would go would be a military base or anything FEMA.

Of course, all this would take place after after I put on clean underpants, cause I would crap them for sure.....

I dont think central Wisconsin is a strategic location so prolly not much to worry about right away.....

[Doctorr Fabulous]

From what I have read, and seen on TV, an EMP attack would bring us to our knees, it didnt appear to take much of a nuke either, send it or a couple up over central US, SPLODY!!!! Massive EMP.
With communication down from EMP's how would military mobilize???
Correct me if I am wrong......

The same way we did in WWI.
"HEY. PRIVATE JONES. GO THAT WAY!"
"AYE SERGEANT!"

Also, I refuse to believe in the EMP stuff. Go read the EMP/CME threads and understand why.

Lastly, would everyone comparing IRQ/AFG to an invasion remember that within a year or so, the governments of both those countries were cooperating with us?

[Rev]

From what I have read, and seen on TV, an EMP attack would bring us to our knees, it didnt appear to take much of a nuke either, send it or a couple up over central US, SPLODY!!!! Massive EMP.
With communication down from EMP's how would military mobilize???
Correct me if I am wrong......

The same way we did in WWI.
"HEY. PRIVATE JONES. GO THAT WAY!"
"AYE SERGEANT!"

Also, I refuse to believe in the EMP stuff. Go read the EMP/CME threads and understand why.

Lastly, would everyone comparing IRQ/AFG to an invasion remember that within a year or so, the governments of both those countries were cooperating with us?

EMP might fuck up our shit, but the worst I think it could do is wipe out our electric grid. Which in of itself would be devastating.

[squinty]

From what I have read, and seen on TV, an EMP attack would bring us to our knees, it didnt appear to take much of a nuke either, send it or a couple up over central US, SPLODY!!!! Massive EMP.
With communication down from EMP's how would military mobilize???
Correct me if I am wrong......

The same way we did in WWI.
"HEY. PRIVATE JONES. GO THAT WAY!"
"AYE SERGEANT!"

Also, I refuse to believe in the EMP stuff. Go read the EMP/CME threads and understand why.

Lastly, would everyone comparing IRQ/AFG to an invasion remember that within a year or so, the governments of both those countries were cooperating with us?

This is a fantasy scenario. I was imagining a sort of Vichy government arising in the occupied USA. Probably not in the first 6 hours though.

[MacAttack]

In a slightly fantasy world I can see an invasion happening.

But the political and social make-up of the US would have to change quite a bit.
(keeping this as politically neutral as possible)
I can see our military being withdrawn from the rest of the world with just embassy guards being left over.
With our new isolationism taking full hold a call to reduce the size of the our military could be made. Little by little the military could be reduced until all we have left is the coast guard and a few maintenance personnel to keep our mothballed equipment ready to be brought back to service. (we can train anyone to do anything in 6 months or less so why have an army?)If we drop below 75,000 personnel total we are basically at that point.
Cargo freighters can be converted to hold 5,000 or more armed solders and equipment. Just 10 to 20 moving into each seaport can drop off quite a few solders.
Add in 20 Civilian aircraft each moving in 250 plus armed solders to select airports.
Add a few select tactical nukes on the remaining military bases that would have been used for training a new American army.

And on the civilian side all we need is a few new anti gun laws to be passed. The real killer would be a confiscation of existing weapons in some form for any reason. But just a banning of all weapon sales would do the same over a period of time. Can't pass them on to the kids and can't sell or trade them. All ammo/component sales stopped because of terrorist fears.


But this would take 20 to 30 years to sneak up on us.

And I can only see one nation with the will and eventual ability to pull it off. Even in 20 years.

But hey this is a fantasy idea right? Nothing to worry about for our children.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

In a slightly fantasy world I can see an invasion happening.

But the political and social make-up of the US would have to change quite a bit.
(keeping this as politically neutral as possible)
I can see our military being withdrawn from the rest of the world with just embassy guards being left over.
With our new isolationism taking full hold a call to reduce the size of the our military could be made. Little by little the military could be reduced until all we have left is the coast guard and a few maintenance personnel to keep our mothballed equipment ready to be brought back to service. (we can train anyone to do anything in 6 months or less so why have an army?)If we drop below 75,000 personnel total we are basically at that point.
Cargo freighters can be converted to hold 5,000 or more armed solders and equipment. Just 10 to 20 moving into each seaport can drop off quite a few solders.
Add in 20 Civilian aircraft each moving in 250 plus armed solders to select airports.
Add a few select tactical nukes on the remaining military bases that would have been used for training a new American army.

And on the civilian side all we need is a few new anti gun laws to be passed. The real killer would be a confiscation of existing weapons in some form for any reason. But just a banning of all weapon sales would do the same over a period of time. Can't pass them on to the kids and can't sell or trade them. All ammo/component sales stopped because of terrorist fears.


But this would take 20 to 30 years to sneak up on us.

And I can only see one nation with the will and eventual ability to pull it off. Even in 20 years.

But hey this is a fantasy idea right? Nothing to worry about for our children.

I sense your sarcasm. But no, this will not happen without a major shift in the US policy, sicne our stated foreign defense goal is to be ablke to conduct conventionalk or unconventional warfare on two different fronts at once. Believe me, no one in command seriously believes that a boot is ready to go to war.

[Bob Bobberino]

Canada isn't going to invade us. Why would they?
However, our Southern neighbor basically is already invading us.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Canada isn't going to invade us. Why would they?
However, our Southern neighbor basically is already invading us.

Politics. Not gonna touch that.

I'd be interested to hear why so many people would bug out and leave all their shit rather than bug in. I mean, there's no way I'm bugging out in the first six hours. Even if my DD214 was framed on the wall, I got way more ammo at home (and food) than would be worth bugging out with.

Although I would challenge anyone short of specops to track my ass through the fire death swamps, what with the reptiles of unusual size, the lightning sand/mud, and the infectious diseases.

[Bob Bobberino]

Wasn't talking politics.
Anyway, to your main question:
I agree. Depending on the situation, I'm definitely going to try to bug in as long as it's viable. Trying to bug out right away is just going to open you up to a whole other set of problems potentially, and depending where you are when sh*t goes down, just getting home could be an adventure in itself.

[squinty]

BOL is a bit further off the grid and if I get to it, I may be less fucked with by occupational authorities.
OTOH it's a nice out of the way place with no witnesses, so if someone wanted to do me dirty they might find the BOL a more congenial spot to do it in.

[LECTER]

Grab my BOB and head out to an old WWII bunker I found in the middle of the woods and wait for information.

That is, if it happened here in Europe too!

[squinty]

Grab my BOB and head out to an old WWII bunker I found in the middle of the woods and wait for information.

That is, if it happened here in Europe too!

How would information get to you in a WWII bunker? Shortwave? Wireless internet?

[LECTER]

Grab my BOB and head out to an old WWII bunker I found in the middle of the woods and wait for information.

That is, if it happened here in Europe too!

How would information get to you in a WWII bunker? Shortwave? Wireless internet?

Yes, I was thinking shortwave radio. I guess the EMP would have killed the internet though...

It's an interesting topic the op made.

[Berkem]

Possible invasion scenario?Lets say USA starts a a big war with a big enemy with a-bombs.It can be one country or several.Usa wins,but wastes most of its nukes,looses significant part of Navy and air foces .Also big casualties among troops and civillians.Big invasion army overseas to control the defeated enemy territory.
And then, some third force invades USA.Some coutries that were neutral,some might have even been USA allies block together and start a war with invasion.

[squinty]

Grab my BOB and head out to an old WWII bunker I found in the middle of the woods and wait for information.

That is, if it happened here in Europe too!

How would information get to you in a WWII bunker? Shortwave? Wireless internet?

Yes, I was thinking shortwave radio. I guess the EMP would have killed the internet though...

It's an interesting topic the op made.

Wait - wait: they invaded my country and they killed the internet!?! Oh, it's on now...it's on!

[squinty]

Possible invasion scenario?Lets say USA starts a a big war with a big enemy with a-bombs.It can be one country or several.Usa wins,but wastes most of its nukes,looses significant part of Navy and air foces .Also big casualties among troops and civillians.Big invasion army overseas to control the defeated enemy territory.
And then, some third force invades USA.Some coutries that were neutral,some might have even been USA allies block together and start a war with invasion.

I predict a difficult, protracted and costly occupation that the invading force will come to regret. Just sayin'.

[Rev]

I predict a difficult, protracted and costly occupation that the invading force will come to regret. Just sayin'.

Otherwise known as every occupation of the last forty years.

[LECTER]

Grab my BOB and head out to an old WWII bunker I found in the middle of the woods and wait for information.

That is, if it happened here in Europe too!

How would information get to you in a WWII bunker? Shortwave? Wireless internet?

Yes, I was thinking shortwave radio. I guess the EMP would have killed the internet though...

It's an interesting topic the op made.

Wait - wait: they invaded my country and they killed the internet!?! Oh, it's on now...it's on!

Yeah, it's definitely on!