Your pet is quite plump....

[greenear123]

Who's to say that owning pets can't be a part of your preps? We have several Guinea Pigs and rabbits as "pets". Enough that we could quickly build up a small herd for trading or butchering. Our dogs might be a little harder sell. They are our 4 legged kids. But stray or feral pets?, pass the kimchee, baby, we'er hav'n bbq.
As for dogs for security, don't count on your average citified pooch to provide much warning; when a bear came into our campground one nite every dog in the place went and hid till Yogi took off with the pic-a-nic baskets. We couldn't decide if they were smart or worthless.

[Seakers]

To me it boils down to how useful the "pet" is for instance my dog is catching Squirls and Birds, locates and digs local wild foods, can retrieve foul from water ( once I finish her training) and possably help pull me out of bad situations from playing "tug of war" with her. Sleeps with (always touching) me, will be leashless when her training is complete. But my moms fat dog would be dinner that is for sure. And if my puppy gets to old ( she is just 9 months now at slim 55lbs of muscle) she also would be on my menu. Sad to say but she until she became useless or lame the situation would change, and hopefully buy then I have another smart puppy I can use her to help train do what she currently dose. I also for got the barking kept quiet when ordered to as well. And trying to teach her about snakes and staying CLEAR of them down here in my AO. The dog will be no good if a snakebite kills her then her meat is ruined.

As for the cats that around here they are definitely on the menu, and the red fox around here.

[Foxy]

Things would need to be pritty bad for me to look at my dog as a meal (like I'm on the verge of blacking out when I stand up starving), Chowing down on the dog food before the dog would also be one way I tried to stretch out my resources before throwing him in the pot.

To me it boils down to how useful the "pet" is for instance my dog is catching Squirls and Birds, locates and digs local wild foods, can retrieve foul from water ( once I finish her training) and possably help pull me out of bad situations from playing "tug of war" with her. Sleeps with (always touching) me, will be leashless when her training is complete. But my moms fat dog would be dinner that is for sure. And if my puppy gets to old ( she is just 9 months now at slim 55lbs of muscle) she also would be on my menu. Sad to say but she until she became useless or lame the situation would change, and hopefully buy then I have another smart puppy I can use her to help train do what she currently dose. I also for got the barking kept quiet when ordered to as well. And trying to teach her about snakes and staying CLEAR of them down here in my AO. The dog will be no good if a snakebite kills her then her meat is ruined.

As for the cats that around here they are definitely on the menu, and the red fox around here.

IIRC and sorta confirmed on Wiki the meat of an animal that as succumb to snake bites is not necessarily dangerous...

Venomous snakes are often said to be poisonous, although this is not the correct term, as venoms and poisons are different. Poisons can be absorbed by the body, such as through the skin or digestive system, while venoms must first be introduced directly into tissues or the blood stream (envenomated) through mechanical means. It is, for example, harmless to drink snake venom as long as there are no lacerations inside the mouth or digestive tract. The two exceptions are: the Rhabdophis keelback snakes secrete poison from glands they get from the poisonous toads they consume, and similarly, certain garter snakes from Oregon retain toxins in their livers from the newts they eat.[17]

[TWhite260]

My cat weighs 7 pounds soaking wet. She can't catch squat for me to eat so she would be a quick easy meal.

But, there are a bunch of squirrels around so I could (and have) shoot a couple for a nice meal. I think kitty would be a no brainer if I was starving.

[Quietus]

I don't really think it would help much. My cat is pure bone, muscle and sinew. A hyper-fit killer with not a gram of fat. Her ability to catch and kill anything even remotely smaller than her, would serve me much better.
Her food on the other hand is 80% animal protein and should be a very good backup food source.

My neighbour's dog would be a much better meal. So would my neighbour for that matter.
And if that was what stood between me and survival, I would have no problem putting a bullet in either of their heads.

[squinty]

I don't really think it would help much. My cat is pure bone, muscle and sinew. A hyper-fit killer with not a gram of fat. Her ability to catch and kill anything even remotely smaller than her, would serve me much better.
Her food on the other hand is 80% animal protein and should be a very good backup food source.

My neighbour's dog would be a much better meal. So would my neighbour for that matter.
And if that was what stood between me and survival, I would have no problem putting a bullet in either of their heads.

What the fuck, Quietus? What the fuck?

[Quietus]

What the fuck, Quietus? What the fuck?

[airballrad]

What the fuck, Quietus? What the fuck?

My neighbour's dog would be a much better meal. So would my neighbour for that matter.
And if that was what stood between me and survival, I would have no problem putting a bullet in either of their heads.

That would be murder, which we don't talk about here. Murder is highly illegal, and since Rule #1 is "No discussion of illegal activities as a viable option", that's a no-no.

[squinty]

What the fuck, Quietus? What the fuck?

Really, you're confused? Me too. Explain this statement please:

My neighbour's dog would be a much better meal. So would my neighbour for that matter.
And if that was what stood between me and survival, I would have no problem putting a bullet in either of their heads.

You wouldn't have a problem putting a bullet in your neighbor's head? Because of the kind of meal he'd make? How is that not "sociopathic" (a term you leveled at other posters in a thread about home defense) and how does it not violate forum rules about advocating murder/other illegal activities?

[Quietus]

You wouldn't have a problem putting a bullet in your neighbor's head? Because of the kind of meal he'd make? How is that not "sociopathic" (a term you leveled at other posters in a thread about home defense) and how does it not violate forum rules about advocating murder/other illegal activities?

I think you might be reading a bit to much into things here. And I suppose a smily or two from my side could have prevented that.

Considering your current stance, I shall leave it at that. A debate hardly seems worth the trouble.

[squinty]

I don't see how a smily would have changed anythong. So, if you were just kidding, fine. This still looks like one for the graveyard, or at least excision and placement in the random stupid bullshit thread. At least, I hope that's what mods do with it.

[ZombieGranny]

I thought I posted on this a while back, must have been a similar thread.
--
My question is:
If you have reached the point where this is a serious consideration,
how much longer do you think eating your pet would make you live?
You have a seven pound live weight animal, should butcher out to what - half that?
[ The average dressed rabbit carcass ranged from. 45.6% to 50.3% of live weight. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... tA&cad=rja ]
So... how much longer would that 3 1/2 pounds of meat make you live?
A week?
Is a week worth of life that important?

[squinty]

I thought I posted on this a while back, must have been a similar thread.
--
My question is:
If you have reached the point where this is a serious consideration,
how much longer do you think eating your pet would make you live?
You have a seven pound live weight animal, should butcher out to what - half that?
[ The average dressed rabbit carcass ranged from. 45.6% to 50.3% of live weight. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... tA&cad=rja ]
So... how much longer would that 3 1/2 pounds of meat make you live?
A week?
Is a week worth of life that important?

If you were a four day journey away from a place of shelter w/more viable food sources in it, maybe. I still wouldn't eat my pet, thought that's just semtimentality. I don't draw an ethical distinction between butchering a domestic animal raised for food, and one raised for companionship, but I still would have trouble killing the companion animal, and likely wouldn't. Whereas popping a person - not the same as killing a pet. There are people in the world whom I don't like as much as I like my pet, but murder is murder.

[whisk.e.rebellion]

My neighbour's dog would be a much better meal. So would my neighbour for that matter.
And if that was what stood between me and survival, I would have no problem putting a bullet in either of their heads.

Seeing as you just got jumped by the community, I'll spare you the embarrassment of any further public shaming.

Suffice it to say, you've now stuck your foot in your mouth twice in a month. I'd tread lightly if I were you.

[smokinbunta]

In a heart beat! even tho they are actually my roommates dogs (both beagles but not trained what so ever) so they would be useless once it gets bad enough.. tho i might keep 1 alive as a good alarm system, they are some times pretty good at detecting people outside but 1 would be sufficient enough for the job..

[TacAir]

(rolls eyes) Another wok your dog thread?

After having spent a year in the RoK, it was common for me to find
dog sized' meat hanging in the outdoor meat markets. The flies were a bonus. Would I eat dog? Ya, horse meat is better for you, but dog does have some real pluses

We can learn from others - like Amundsen and his race for the South Pole -
"Upon reaching 10,600 feet (3,200 m) at the summit of the glacier, at 85° 36′ S, Amundsen prepared for the final stage of the journey. Of the 45 dogs who had made the ascent (7 had perished during the Barrier stage), only 18 would go forward; the remainder were to be killed for food. Each of the sledge-drivers killed dogs from his own team, skinned them, and divided the meat between dogs and men. "We called the place the Butchers' Shop", Amundsen recalled. "[T]here was depression and sadness in the air; we had grown so fond of our dogs". Regrets did not prevent the team from enjoying the plentiful food; Wisting proved particularly skilful in his preparation and presentation of the meat".

Not only is the history fascinating, it has vast amounts of knowledge on nutrition, sledding, skiing and so on. All can be had for the reading.

One last thing - be careful what you eat -
Declining an overturere from Shackleton and Scott's invitation to join his dash for the Pole, geologist Douglas Mawson mounted the Australasian Antarctic Expedition to explore the unknown region west of Cape Adare on the Ross Sea. A party led by Frank Wild, a veteran of Nimrod, explored King George V Land and Terre Adélie, while photographer Frank Hurley joined a group making for the South Magnetic Pole. Mawson proceeded east of Cape Denison with Xavier Mertz and Belgrave Ninnis. Just 320 miles into their journey, Ninnis fell into a crevasse and disappeared with most of the food and tools. Desperate to outstrip starvation, Mawson and Mertz killed the huskies for food and fell victim to vitamin A poisoning from eating the dog liver. Unknown at the time, the affliction produced wasting, fissuring of skin, and dementia, and ultimately claimed Mertz's life.

[werepig]

Yes I would. If is me or my dog. I'll pick over any animal.

[Bob Bobberino]

If it comes down to survival I would eat my pet. Of course if you are resorting to eating your pet, times are probably tough and things aren't lookin so good for you.

Yeah. While they'd lose some weight while I was beginning to get into my food stores, I'm not a sadist! And, would you really take food out of your family's mouths for your pets? Eat your pets.

[MICKPORNO]

I'M THINKING THE GIRLFRIENDS NEW PUPPY WOULD BE DELICIOUS IN THE CROCKPOT WITH POTATOES, CARROTS AND SOME GARLIC.

[Calem]

Considering that my pets of choice are rats, then no, I wouldn't rely on them in the end, plump as they may be and things would have to not just bad or dire but extremely extreme before I'd even considered it, even if it'd been a dog or cat. I think the value of the companion is greater than that of food but this is a temperate area so getting food at almost all times of the year isn't that hard.

[Bob Bobberino]

I'd eat my pets. I think it only makes sense. Unless your pet is useful for security purposes, they aren't exactly pulling their own weight, and will only drain your already finite resources. PLUS, even defensive animals could also put you in more danger by potentially alerting others to your position, depending upon your/the situation. So, unless the animal is used for security, and possibly even then, in the event of a disaster the pets would be immediately butchered and consumed before I even started on the emergency food supply.

[izombiellama]

i have 2 dogs. both are mastiff/pitbull mix.. both over a hundred pounds and very protective of me..i guess the only problem is that their personalities are so different, one is more of a loner(yet he is the perfect hunter,catches prairie dogs all the time). and the other never strays from my side(he is the one that i know reads my behavior and is the most protective of me). so ive got 2 dogs that given the situation if shtf would def constitute a feast, but given their worth as tools i dont think i would be able to dispatch either....

[cbr900]

I would never eat mine one is for security and the other is my hunting dog at 125lbs now he can take on some pretty large hogs.....both offer many advantages plus I just couldnt do it.

[Ableto]

If i was Will Ferrell from land of the lost i would follow his words:(follow the link)

http://youtu.be/YlFNf9kuu8U

But im not Will Ferrel. I like most pets. I would not want to eat someones pet, unless it was a pet cow. Then the community would be glad for the grand meal, and only as a last resort. As in the cow was old and the owner offered it as food to the community.