Bullets to Zeds per city.

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Re: Bullets to Zeds per city.

Postby Malleolus » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:03 am

AK47Heaven wrote:Ok here is my personal scenario, I live in a town with 5,000 zombies in it.Assuming I had 10k .22LR, and adequate food and water to survive for several months, couldn't I sit on my roof and pick off Zeds at my leisure and allow the gunfire to draw more?I would be inaccessible and in that caliber 10k is definitely realistic.Almost like the scene from Dawn of the Dead where Andy is shooting celebrity look alikes from his roof.Two or three people with scoped .22s putting in full days could eliminate hundreds even thousands.

Am I wrong?

Yes, and again that's because the vast majority of people don't train to hit the human head, probably over half your rounds are going to be wasted due to misses, defective rounds, miss-fires, shot's that don't penetrate, etc. Also, unless you have an attic to get into that's high enough to escape zombies that has roof access (meaning you're probably talking about just holding up on the roof till it's over with) you'll die of exposure quickly. Humans aren't designed to be exposed to the sun's radiation for extended periods of time, that's why we get sun burns. Imagine that x the number of hours your talking of devoting to this endeavor. You're talking of writing off securing your house against this zombie horde, so they'll be able to break in easily enough so you'll be stuck up there whether or not you like it.
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Re: Bullets to Zeds per city.

Postby stetson » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:34 pm

I would strongly recommend you research rounds expended in combat per kill from WW 2 to the present you will see a dramatic change in how combat plays out.

Adapt your plan for contigencies and focus on defense rather then offense.
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Re: Bullets to Zeds per city.

Postby Mr_Sheesh » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:40 pm

Maybe I'm unusual, but I grew up hunting, & used to shoot grouse in season, in one eye & out the other. Humane as heck, no meat wasted, and with a good accurate rifle, not that hard. Only one I lost was snagged by a fox about 2 seconds after I fired, rather irritating.

Granted, in self defense I was trained to shoot center of mass - FIRST. Then, if needed, a stopper round to the head.

So, I would suspect that anyone who trained in self defense and has ANY intelligence, could "connect the dots" and get the concept of "Shoot Zeds in the head, every time".

Not really the same scenario as WWII - since Zombies do not shoot back, you don't really need cover, nor concealment, you just need a tall wall or other inaccessible spot. And a lot of good luck, if the Zombopocalypse hits, I'll grant that! (You have to hear of the disaster before being snuck up on, then get home / to your BOB before being bitten etc.)

Also don't forget the stopping power of a '55 Buick etc.; Running a Zombie over should slow them down. For that matter, a softball bat will do in a pinch etc.

When the "Black Death" hit, it killed a huge percentage of society; With Zombies, we'd know what the infection vector is, long before that many were infected, I'd think, and take more effective steps than self-flagellation, persecuting minorities, etc.? It'd still SUCK, but, IDK if society would be destroyed; The cleanup bill would be NASTY, all of the earth's surface designated an EPA SuperFund site basically? Ack.

(Even if not everyone stocks ammo, I'd think in a disaster your local gun shop could sell you / loan you ammo as needed; Good to be known there and friendly with them.)
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Re: Bullets to Zeds per city.

Postby Malleolus » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:24 pm

Mr_Sheesh wrote:Maybe I'm unusual, but I grew up hunting, & used to shoot grouse in season, in one eye & out the other. Humane as heck, no meat wasted, and with a good accurate rifle, not that hard. Only one I lost was snagged by a fox about 2 seconds after I fired, rather irritating.

Granted, in self defense I was trained to shoot center of mass - FIRST. Then, if needed, a stopper round to the head.

So, I would suspect that anyone who trained in self defense and has ANY intelligence, could "connect the dots" and get the concept of "Shoot Zeds in the head, every time".

Not really the same scenario as WWII - since Zombies do not shoot back, you don't really need cover, nor concealment, you just need a tall wall or other inaccessible spot. And a lot of good luck, if the Zombopocalypse hits, I'll grant that! (You have to hear of the disaster before being snuck up on, then get home / to your BOB before being bitten etc.)

Also don't forget the stopping power of a '55 Buick etc.; Running a Zombie over should slow them down. For that matter, a softball bat will do in a pinch etc.

When the "Black Death" hit, it killed a huge percentage of society; With Zombies, we'd know what the infection vector is, long before that many were infected, I'd think, and take more effective steps than self-flagellation, persecuting minorities, etc.? It'd still SUCK, but, IDK if society would be destroyed; The cleanup bill would be NASTY, all of the earth's surface designated an EPA SuperFund site basically? Ack.

(Even if not everyone stocks ammo, I'd think in a disaster your local gun shop could sell you / loan you ammo as needed; Good to be known there and friendly with them.)

I'd think the local gun shops would probably take all that ammo and hold up somewhere. There was actually a set of mathematicians who specialize in plotting out disease vectors and for shits and giggles decided to create a zpoc scenario and found that it would take repeated and progressively stronger full military attacks to stop an outbreak before it went out of control, and that is if they catch it in time. When they factored in the likelihood that any government would try to keep it on the down low or some countries not having the assets needed to address the situation, the outlook is grim. Not to mention that you also have to factor in the chaos and anarchy it would cause.
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