Mannlicher wrote:I fired up season one on the computer today, and was watching some of the first episodes. In the one entitled 'tell it to the frogs', it opens with shane surprising lori in the woods, and some fairly graphic sex between them. Lori was all OVER shane, and seemed to be in heaven.
I really believe she was more in love with Shane than she was with Rick, and that showed in her reaction to Rick telling her he killed her lover.
I don't know if she was more in love with Shane than Rick, but she was in love with everyone's favorite post apocalyptic bad boy. And Shane was giving her something that Rick never could. To say that she was conflicted about these two men would be an understatement. Going back to the very first episode, Rick confiding in Shane that things were not all honky dory in the Grimes household. And later that same episode when Lori was confiding to her girlfriend that sometimes Rick was too reasonable, that just once she wished he would lose it a bit, suggests that Lori was looking for something, maybe more passion in her husband.
Any female members who would like to go a bit deeper into that analysis, I'm all ears. What I wrote above is the extent to which I understand the inner world of women. I'd love to expand my knowledge in that regard.
I'm not a woman, but I find it kind of odd that people are thinking that Lori is still in love with Shane. To me, it was pretty obvious that Lori had talked to Shane to clear the air; she basically broke off all non-necessary communication with Shane up until that point, and even after he came for her when she crashed her car, she stopped talking outright and headed to the passenger side silently after he said that Rick was okay. Just got in the car and let Shane drive them back, no chit-chat.
I was thinking that Lori had been bottling up any feelings for Shane since Rick came back and kept telling herself that she was supposed to be with Rick (which she did say several times, and this would taint her feelings for Shane and make it feel wrong to continue being with him); eventually, I think the PAW mentality wore off and she genuinely put an end to that chapter of her life. She did say that she still had feelings for him, but I don't see how that's different from breaking off any meaningful relationship; it's not rejecting love and saying that the relationship was never real, it's accepting that the relationship won't work and moving on (it's called 'baggage' for a reason, isn't it?). And she says as much.
For all of the stupid shit and generally elementary script-writing for Lori, the scene where she told Shane (as Rick himself told him in '18 Miles Out') was probably the most clear-cut, lucid scene Lori has ever been in.
For tl; dr, I don't see how anyone but Shane could read that scene as meaning 'I want you'. And he's one fucked-up son of a bitch.
I mean, Shane took that as justification to kill the prisoner (which was held off after Dale died; basically fucking over his chances of staying in the group) and murder Rick under a false flag.
Feelings aside, if you try to kill your best friend with a wrench and he saves you from certain death anyway (even though he could have easily done so, without anyone wondering what the truth was), would you really decide to murder him because he gave you another chance to?
On Rick's end, if you find out that your best friend has been fucking your wife, somehow keep it together enough to give him a second chance to be your best friend, and he tries to KILL YOU to keep fucking your wife and raise YOUR SON (YOUR SON, FOR FUCK'S SAKE), would you have saved him? Much less give him a second chance after he tries to murder you AGAIN?
Rick's been a reasonable guy. Way too fucking reasonable for realism, really. I know I probably would have to think hard about saving that piece of shit.
He even gave Shane a third, final chance to redeem himself. Rick knew how to get Shane to calm down, because he knew exactly what was going through Shane's head in '18 Miles Out' (which is why he told Shane what he told him); I think that to some degree, he was making sure that Shane had to die, and he got ample proof that his suspicions were correct (nothing but deluded bullshit came out of Shane's mouth). Not much else to it, really, IMO.