"Walking Dead" Cable Series

[RickOShea]

Another gripe I have, what about getting some fricken maps people! Find some maps, check out the local area for decent places.

They had some maps when they were searching for Sophia......you just never see them using them.

[ineffableone]

Another gripe I have, what about getting some fricken maps people! Find some maps, check out the local area for decent places.

They had some maps when they were searching for Sophia......you just never see them using them.

Two words. CB/FRS radios. Rick as a cop should have known better.

They have 'em......you just never see them using them.

Brains -- They have 'em......you just never see them using them.

[Babidoll85]

Another gripe I have, what about getting some fricken maps people! Find some maps, check out the local area for decent places.

They had some maps when they were searching for Sophia......you just never see them using them.

Two words. CB/FRS radios. Rick as a cop should have known better.

They have 'em......you just never see them using them.

Brains -- They have 'em......you just never see them using them. :

Hahaha

[OTTB]

If everyone is infected and a zombie what happens.

[Babidoll85]

I've been waiting to see some zombie animals. Every time there was a noise in the trees I would predict a zombie squirrel. I even thought we might get a zombie cow. Nope. I can see why there wouldnt be small animals, because basically the whole thing would be eaten, but what about a big one?

[angelofwar]

I've been waiting to see some zombie animals. Every time there was a noise in the trees I would predict a zombie squirrel. I even thought we might get a zombie cow. Nope. I can see why there wouldnt be small animals, because basically the whole thing would be eaten, but what about a big one?

Neurological diseases that effect humans tend to be limited to humans for the most part...and the disease appears to effect the brain primarily...that would explain the "human only" aspect.

[ineffableone]

I've been waiting to see some zombie animals. Every time there was a noise in the trees I would predict a zombie squirrel. I even thought we might get a zombie cow. Nope. I can see why there wouldnt be small animals, because basically the whole thing would be eaten, but what about a big one?

Seems it is a human only virus/disease. Though maybe other primates could get it too. Zombie chimps, zombie gorilla, now that would be scary! Apes are so much stronger than us, and have much scarier teeth.

But in general most stuff does not cross species much, or if it does it changes when it does.

[Babidoll85]

Well that makes sense. I'm a zombie noob in case you didn't read I think I would be a million times more terrified of a zombie Ape. Yikes!

[Jamie]

5 Reasons 'The Walking Dead' Has to Get Better - on cracked.com

I missed this originally, but it's on the money...

I don't watch it because it's a good show; I watch it because I really want it to be a good show.

Jamie

[ineffableone]

I've been waiting to see some zombie animals. Every time there was a noise in the trees I would predict a zombie squirrel. I even thought we might get a zombie cow. Nope. I can see why there wouldnt be small animals, because basically the whole thing would be eaten, but what about a big one?

Neurological diseases that effect humans tend to be limited to humans for the most part...and the disease appears to effect the brain primarily...that would explain the "human only" aspect.

Well there is the whole prion mad cow disease which they try to claim is completely unrelated to the mad sheep prion disease that they feed the dead sheep to the cows, who then got the mad cow prion disease who were feed to humans who then got what we call mad cow disease.

So some stuff can I think go from one animal to the next and effect neurological systems. Though I do think your right that this is an exception to the usual way things work.

[Jamie]

I've been waiting to see some zombie animals. Every time there was a noise in the trees I would predict a zombie squirrel. I even thought we might get a zombie cow. Nope. I can see why there wouldnt be small animals, because basically the whole thing would be eaten, but what about a big one?

Neurological diseases that effect humans tend to be limited to humans for the most part...and the disease appears to effect the brain primarily...that would explain the "human only" aspect.

Well there is the whole prion mad cow disease which they try to claim is completely unrelated to the mad sheep prion disease that they feed the dead sheep to the cows, who then got the mad cow prion disease who were feed to humans who then got what we call mad cow disease.

So some stuff can I think go from one animal to the next and effect neurological systems. Though I do think your right that this is an exception to the usual way things work.

I'd love to see some shots of zombie pongids...

Jamie

[RickOShea]

5 Reasons 'The Walking Dead' Has to Get Better - on cracked.com

I missed this originally, but it's on the money...

The very first thing they bitch about is the use of "Red Shirts" (Jimmy & Patricia) while glossing over the deaths of two of the main characters (Dale & Shane) in the previous two episodes.

Meh....I couldn't finish the article.

[Skinner01]

On the wiki page it says The Governor kills Hershel Greene, does the series follow the comic? Will he kill Hershel,He better not kill Daryl

Daryl would pin his head to a Tree with an arrow ................... LOL

[Skinner01]

Well that makes sense. I'm a zombie noob in case you didn't read I think I would be a million times more terrified of a zombie Ape. Yikes!

Just picture the Classic " Planet of the Apes " with Charleton Heston But all the Apes were Zombies !!!!!!
Jesus christ what a physic breakdown there Damn ....

[majorhavoc]

5 Reasons 'The Walking Dead' Has to Get Better - on cracked.com

I missed this originally, but it's on the money...

The very first thing they bitch about is the use of "Red Shirts" (Jimmy & Patricia) while glossing over the deaths of two of the main characters (Dale & Shane) in the previous two episodes.

Meh....I couldn't finish the article.

True that, but I like the article's basic premise, which is that all the easy outs the writers have taken up til now: redshirts, convenient burdens, cliched characters and an undemanding locale (the farm) have been used up or dispensed wth. They have no choice but to tackle some of the GN's more challenging character development and story arc issues they've managed to avoid up till now:

I think it's finally time: I think The Walking Dead is finally going to pull it together. Not because I like what they've done so far, or have become convinced of the writers' abilities, or even see potential in their ideas. But because, by the time Season 2's finale wrapped, the group has made every unrealistically idiotic mistake possible and learned some retardedly obvious lessons -- like that burning zombies just makes burning zombies, that gentle fields of grass aren't a great zombie deterrent and that you never trust the guy who suddenly and dramatically shaves his head in the bathroom. So though it took two full seasons of boredom and idiocy to get there, they're finally there: The Walking Dead has a solid premise, an interesting location, an impending conflict and characters with the beginnings of genuine arcs instead of repetitive dribbles. In short, it may have taken them 18 painful hours to do it, but The Walking Dead has finally caught up with the first 10 minutes of an ordinary zombie movie.

[DarkPariah]

I wonder if the show will ever follow a new group of survivors or if it will just continue/end with the current group. It can't go on forever with the current group, though I'd hate to see Rick and Daryl go.

[HuntingBow96]

I wonder if the show will ever follow a new group of survivors or if it will just continue/end with the current group. It can't go on forever with the current group, though I'd hate to see Rick and Daryl go.

You said it best!

[HuntingBow96]

However a lot of people have said to me that Daryl is taking the place of Tyreese who gets killed by the govenor so maybe Daryl will go in season 3...

[oldsoldier]

MH, the issue I have with that quote is this: movies condense all the action into a nice little 1.5 hr package. Series need to drag it out. Think Battlestar Galactica; that series drug on too. It was a GOOD series, but the plot had some weak points (and some general confusion on my end, at times too). All that being said...I would rather watch this series than ANY sitcom on TV, any "reality" show, or any "follow me at my job" show (Angry Chef, Redneck TreeCutting, Mean Pawn People, or any other stereotype shows). This show has people talking-and anxiously awaiting the next season. And, they hit an age group only previously hit on by Oprah and Merv Griffin-the 40+ age group

[majorhavoc]

MH, the issue I have with that quote is this: movies condense all the action into a nice little 1.5 hr package. Series need to drag it out. Think Battlestar Galactica; that series drug on too. It was a GOOD series, but the plot had some weak points (and some general confusion on my end, at times too). All that being said...I would rather watch this series than ANY sitcom on TV, any "reality" show, or any "follow me at my job" show (Angry Chef, Redneck TreeCutting, Mean Pawn People, or any other stereotype shows). This show has people talking-and anxiously awaiting the next season. And, they hit an age group only previously hit on by Oprah and Merv Griffin-the 40+ age group

I actually very much agree with you. I've probably said at least three times in this thread alone that we're incredibly lucky to have this series. We should be so fortunate to be reduced to nitpicking a current sci-fi TV series, a military drama, a romantic comedy and a reality TV show that actually deals with something something close to reality in a compelling way.

To call the first 18 hours of TWD dead "boring" is obviously hyperbole. But that's what TV critics are paid to do, sort of like radio show hosts. I simply appreciated that however over the top the writer is, he had a few really astute observations.

For instance: Kirkman was smart to kill off Shane early in the GN. As much as I enjoyed the TV character, Shane's two-season-long amoral presence as a foil to Rick's Andy Griffith Mayberry Sheriff has delayed RIck's decent into his personal heart of darkness that makes the GN so compelling. And Dale, while another TV character I really loved, was at times reduced to an avuncular caricature, spouting ethical platitudes. If the show had shown him shacking up with Andrea and her sister in the biblical sense, like he did in the comics, it wouldn't have been so easy for the Dale-haters to write him off as a moral busybody.

I'll say this: if I ever come across as too down on the show, feel free to call me on it; I mean, I haven't followed anything on TV this intently in years. I've certainly never participated in such a sustained, microscopic examination of a series like we're doing here at ZS. This thread will be one of the few things to sustain me during those long, trying months until that glorious Sunday this coming October.

[SeerSavant]

^^^^ This... and ditto.

[MVegas]

I concur on the Shane thing. It dragged on way too long.

I also concur that the show is about to get better. IMHO, it happened with the GN too. Getting to the prison, Michonne's intoduction, and the beginning of the Governor's arc is where it goes from bad ass, to "HOLD ON TO YOUR F***ING HAT AWESOME"

[ninja-elbow]

I can agree with that. Being it's TV, it's gotta be homogenized as homogenized TV gets asses on couches in front of said TVs. You ever notice how the best stuff to you may have been marginal at best ratings-wise?

My favorite thing though is, let's take the Cracked editorial as an example, Kirkman goes straight into stereotypical plot devices and turns them at the end. He does it more in his comics (Wolfman, Invincible, TWD, etc.) and he shows a taste of this in TWD series. For example - in the Cracked link in the comments someone mentions how they quit after the 2nd episode because of the stereotypical red necks and black guys. Now, 18 episodes in, we see developement of one of them "rednecks" and are all hoping T-Dog does something cool and Michonne is in. Shane was Rick's devil and Dale was his angel? Maybe, that's TV for you... but they are both dead now. Rick is pissed.

As I tell people all the time that critique things ... let it play out first. Yeah, some stuff is shit right off (the movie Zombie Wars.. or whatever it was called comes to mind) and it's OK to slam that thing right away. I'm a Kirkman fan though, and I've bumped my head on his story lines before and have learned to trust him. The theme of TWD GN and TV is how a survivor evovlves in a ZPAW. It's not a how to. It's not about how you would do. It's not about how I would do. It's about the development of the writer's characters. The character you love now may be the one you hate later. Kirkman does this, often and in sneaky ways.

As I have stated, in the GN right now Rick is realizing they turned into the gnag that they were running from earlier in the ZPAW. They are the assholes now. It's some good shit. I hope the TV show can go there without losing the mass appeal.

[Mannlicher]

I thought the Cracked article was overly kind. The show has been a border line disaster so far. Most folks seem to stick with it because it's the only show in town.

We have 168 pages of mostly bitching so far, and there are reasons for that....................