"Walking Dead" Cable Series

[BobDa]

Last nights episode is definitely my second favorite of the series behind the very first episode. The first half of the season was just absolute garbage. The first few of the second half weren't all that great either. But the last 3 or so have been slowly fixing the boredom and making me actually sit on the edge of my seat again.

I have a few predictions for season 3, but they may contain some spoilers if you haven't read the comics.

* Contains Comic Spoilers*

I have a feeling Michonne and Daryl will begin a relationship. In the comics Carol and Tyreese had something going and Michonne gets in the middle of it. So far there has been no casting for Tyreese so I think that Daryl is just taking his spot. Not only will this cause drama between Carol and Daryl, but when Merle makes a return, seeing his brother in an interracial relationship will cause even more of a divide between brothers.

I also think that the helicopter will be in the Governors possession. In the comics a helicopter crashes, causing rick and others to search for it. In the show I'm going to guess that the Governor uses the helicopter to bring survivors into his traps.

[KentsOkay]

* Contains Comic Spoilers*

I have a feeling Michonne and Daryl will begin a relationship. In the comics Carol and Tyreese had something going and Michonne gets in the middle of it. So far there has been no casting for Tyreese so I think that Daryl is just taking his spot. Not only will this cause drama between Carol and Daryl, but when Merle makes a return, seeing his brother in an interracial relationship will cause even more of a divide between brothers.

This would be so awesome, I approve.

[RickOShea]

6) Michonne and Prison were shown. I'm excited to see how Kirkman does this for TV.

There's Rick, Daryl, New Hershel, pistol-packin' Andrea, and now Michonne.....All we need is Sgt. Abraham Ford, then we'll have some real humdinger "Zombie Killa of the Week" contests going on.

[majorhavoc]

Cry me a river, pal. At least you've got something to look forward to during the long summer hiatus. I've already read Compendium One. What does that leave me? A big fat nothing, that's what.

Seven months until my next fix? Are you shitting me? Seven months?

You still have compendiums 2 and 3. Or Volumes 3-15 (volume 16 in June 2012) of the TPBs.

You had me going there for a sec. N-E. But a quick check on Amazon and various TWD wikis confirmed that unfortunately no, Compendium 2 has not been published yet. Compendium One covers issues 1-48. But it looks like we're up to Issue #99, so Compendium Two should be published soon.

I can't afford to buy the comics individually. The compendiums, specifically the paperback compendiums, are the only way these things are getting to my bookshelf. They're an absolute bargain compared to buying the issues individually.

I agree that Lori can be excused for quite a bit given her world has been turned upside down, but then again, so has everyone else's. Pregnancy and mood swings is a good point though, I hadn't considered that.

Still, I think it's weak writing if the viewer cannot distinguish when a character is behaving inconsistently due to the circumstances and when that character is simply inconsistent. All the writers would have had to do is write one or two scenes of Lori emerging pale-faced from the bathroom and then proceeding to bite Carl or Rick's head off for some minor infraction to establish the pregnancy is affecting her moods. Right now, I think it's a disservice to Sarah Wayne Callies that her character is known more for causing howls of annoyance and frustration than for cheers of sympathy and admiration.

But I'm just nitpicking. Season two definitely finished on a high note and I can't wait for more!

[Portsmouth]

if you noticed in the previews of the finale daryl is on his bike shooting at zombies and i noticed a truck kinda like a panel truck driving up behind him

I went and watched the preview again. I can't tell if it a panel truck or the RV.

They didn't bring the RV. They left it at the farm filled with zombies and the zombie formerly know as Jimmy.

[ninja-elbow]

Cry me a river, pal. At least you've got something to look forward to during the long summer hiatus. I've already read Compendium One. What does that leave me? A big fat nothing, that's what.

Seven months until my next fix? Are you shitting me? Seven months?

You still have compendiums 2 and 3. Or Volumes 3-15 (volume 16 in June 2012) of the TPBs.

You had me going there for a sec. N-E. But a quick check on Amazon and various TWD wikis confirmed that unfortunately no, Compendium 2 has not been published yet. Compendium One covers issues 1-48. But it looks like we're up to Issue #99, so Compendium Two should be published soon.

I can't afford to buy the comics individually. The compendiums, specifically the paperback compendiums, are the only way these things are getting to my bookshelf. They're an absolute bargain compared to buying the issues individually.

Shit, was looking at Omnibus Editions. Sorry about that. The trade paper backs are somewhat more affordable - more so than 50 copies of the monthly floppy. You're looking at 8 volumes at $15 each from a brick and mortar shop. Yeah, pricey still... but worth it ... c'mon man ... give up on food and buy the TPBs... *waves hands and teeters a gold watch in front of eyes*

[ninja-elbow]

6) Michonne and Prison were shown. I'm excited to see how Kirkman does this for TV.

There's Rick, Daryl, New Hershel, pistol-packin' Andrea, and now Michonne.....All we need is Sgt. Abraham Ford, then we'll have some real humdinger "Zombie Killa of the Week" contests going on.

...and Carl on "getting wet" type jobs.

Group: Shit, what do we do about this, whaa whaaa...
Carl: *POW* Don't worry about it anymore. I took care of it. Why do you guys talk so much?

ETA: A year later.

[ineffableone]

Last nights episode is definitely my second favorite of the series behind the very first episode. The first half of the season was just absolute garbage. The first few of the second half weren't all that great either. But the last 3 or so have been slowly fixing the boredom and making me actually sit on the edge of my seat again.

I have a few predictions for season 3, but they may contain some spoilers if you haven't read the comics.

* Contains Comic Spoilers*

I have a feeling Michonne and Daryl will begin a relationship. In the comics Carol and Tyreese had something going and Michonne gets in the middle of it. So far there has been no casting for Tyreese so I think that Daryl is just taking his spot. Not only will this cause drama between Carol and Daryl, but when Merle makes a return, seeing his brother in an interracial relationship will cause even more of a divide between brothers.

I also think that the helicopter will be in the Governors possession. In the comics a helicopter crashes, causing rick and others to search for it. In the show I'm going to guess that the Governor uses the helicopter to bring survivors into his traps.

I totally agree, I think Daryl is the TV stand in for Tyreese. Maybe they were thinking of making T-Dog that role originally? But Daryl became the Tyreese of the group most definitely.

I have to say what was with Carol trying to pump up Daryl and get him to step into the leadership over Rick. When did Carol become the social ladder climber? Props to Daryl for backing Rick. Honestly I really like Daryl's character, and hope Carol and later Merle doesn't mess him up too much.

btw, why didn't they take the food they left out for Sophia?

This was a great episode. It will be interesting to see how they do the prison since their arrival is so different than the GN version. For example Dale was with them in the GN at the prison and was a helpful hand there, but no Dale anymore in the TV series. Sophia was still alive at the prison in the GN, and blossoming love between her and Carl that began while he was shot develops at the prison. Then of course, Hershal's two little girls from the GN don't exist in the TV series. Tyreese is not in the TV series, so his daughter and her boyfriend isn't either.

btw for everyone complaining about the Carl constantly roaming in the tv series, in the GN he is watched and baby sat usually, he is also almost always with Sophia, and the other kids. It is a failing of the TV series to have him the only kid left, and to be unsupervised all the time. The GN did a good job of showing him and the other kids supervised most of the time.

[RickOShea]

A moment of silence, please, for the death of the best character on the show.

http://i.imgur.com/H0pd6.jpg

Yes, but atleast on the show it went out like a Viking warrior on a funeral pyre.....instead of like it's inglorious demise in the GNs.

[Dagny]

How fast do you all think the walkers are capable of walking?

Looks to me like 1-2 miles per hour.

They'd be everywhere in a few months.


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[Nycene]

Rick finally made the speech he should have made ages ago. They looked to him for leadership. He led, despite having people questioning his leadership at every turn. He made some mistakes (not telling everyone what jenner told him, in my mind, was the biggest), but he is leading a random group of people in uncharted territory.

For me the cruelty of his postion was highlighted in the episode where they were trying to decide what to do with randal. Carol says something to the effect of ' you can't make us decide this'. who should be deciding for you? if you don't want to make the hard decisions, the least you can do is support the person who is. daryl's true decency came through later, when rick thanked him for shooting dale. acknowledging that rick has been doing 'all of the heavy lifting', because leading (especially under these circumstances) is some pretty damn heavy lifting. backing rick up, acknowledging that rick has done okay by him. awesome. i love you daryl.

lori needs to go. she knew shane was a threat (she told rick that shane was a threat). she did not notice her son was gone until it was too late. even knowing that shane orchestrated the escape and plotted to kill her husband, she pulls away from him when he needs support the most. she needs to go.

rick is not a dictator. if anything, he has been elected, time and time again, to lead this group. he looks to others for support. if anything, he has been a little too easily swayed by the whims of the electorate. way to grow some rick. good luck at the prison.

michonne. sweet katana wielding michonne. oh how i have missed you and your zombie puppies.

[majorhavoc]

How fast do you all think the walkers are capable of walking?

Looks to me like 1-2 miles per hour.

They'd be everywhere in a few months.
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I imagine they're already everywhere. It's not like they're coming from just one place. Season One established it was a global pandemic.

I've been noticing that you can see the character's breath in the night scenes of late. The GN made a fairly big deal about how the walkers became much less active in the winter because they produce no body heat. Dead or alive, when tissue freezes it becomes solid and voila! Zombiecicle.

I know a lot of people contributing to this thread have scoured the internet to get video interviews and behind the scenes info on the series, but I've avoided it up till now. So that may make me the last person on the planet to learn that Andrew Lincoln (Rick Grimes) is British. It always comes as a humorous shock when I hear an actor speaking without the accent I'm accustomed to.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/showbiz/2012/02/17/nr-intv-walking-dead-lincoln.cnn#/video/world/2012/03/19/pkg-foster-uk-duchess-first-speech.cnn

[RickOShea]

How fast do you all think the walkers are capable of walking?

Looks to me like 1-2 miles per hour.

They'd be everywhere in a few months.


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Well, in the GNs they had "lurkers" that just sat around not moving until something got within a few feet of them. Then there's the "walkers" that just wander around aimlessly. I'd say in wander-mode they probably only do about 0.5 to 1 mph.

Now if something draws their attention they could probably double that speed.

Something they haven't really shown in the TV show is how they interpret things. In the GNs one walker could be walking close to a wall and brush it's hand against a door knob but keep moving along. Another walker could see the first one's hand rub against the door knob, get excited, and walk over and try to open the door (or break it down).

[ineffableone]

How fast do you all think the walkers are capable of walking?

Looks to me like 1-2 miles per hour.

They'd be everywhere in a few months.


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Well, in the GNs they had "lurkers" that just sat around not moving until something got within a few feet of them. Then there's the "walkers" that just wander around aimlessly. I'd say in wander-mode they probably only do about 0.5 to 1 mph.

Now if something draws their attention they could probably double that speed.

Something they haven't really shown in the TV show is how they interpret things. In the GNs one walker could be walking close to a wall and brush it's hand against a door knob but keep moving along. Another walker could see the first one's hand rub against the door knob, get excited, and walk over and try to open the door (or break it down).

GN calls them roamers not walkers.

[Zpocalypse_GBG]

btw for everyone complaining about the Carl constantly roaming in the tv series, in the GN he is watched and baby sat usually, he is also almost always with Sophia, and the other kids. It is a failing of the TV series to have him the only kid left, and to be unsupervised all the time. The GN did a good job of showing him and the other kids supervised most of the time.

I wouldn't be surprised if they kill him off instead of his later exploits in the comic, simply because by the time they get there, We're not even past 30 issues yet, and it's been 2 seasons, but the actor who plays Carl is going to get older, where in the walking dead universe, it will only be a few months. Instead of needing to worry about both Carl and Sophia getting older(especially since she's a girl and would obviously mature quicker then Carl, they killed off her character to avoid that.)

They've been pretty clear that they aren't following the comics verbatum, so I personally think Carl's time is limited.

[ineffableone]

btw for everyone complaining about the Carl constantly roaming in the tv series, in the GN he is watched and baby sat usually, he is also almost always with Sophia, and the other kids. It is a failing of the TV series to have him the only kid left, and to be unsupervised all the time. The GN did a good job of showing him and the other kids supervised most of the time.

I wouldn't be surprised if they kill him off instead of his later exploits in the comic, simply because by the time they get there, We're not even past 30 issues yet, and it's been 2 seasons, but the actor who plays Carl is going to get older, where in the walking dead universe, it will only be a few months. Instead of needing to worry about both Carl and Sophia getting older(especially since she's a girl and would obviously mature quicker then Carl, they killed off her character to avoid that.)

They've been pretty clear that they aren't following the comics verbatum, so I personally think Carl's time is limited.

That is possible, though in the GN it took them a year to get the prison, in the TV series it has not been close to that time and yes the actor for Carl is getting older so they may have to kill him off, or do something to explain his aging.

[RickOShea]

That is possible, though in the GN it took them a year to get the prison, in the TV series it has not been close to that time and yes the actor for Carl is getting older so they may have to kill him off, or do something to explain his aging.

A year?

I figure between the time they left the Atlanta camp until the time Hershel kicked them off of the farm and they found the prison was about two or three months. It was already winter when they left Atlanta. And when Rick went back to the farm to invite Hershel's family to come live at the prison, the "roamers" were thawing-out and coming onto the farm in greater numbers......Which was why Hershel agreed to leave.

[SeerSavant]

what I'm really curious about... the whole opening segment, the same walkers were seen at the beginning, walking towards and into Atlanta, then we see the same over a period of time, staying together, that plus the large pack that walked thru when they broke down on the interstate...

It seems that the walkers have been following a "herd" mentality... I wonder how far they are going to push that?

Instead of single autonomous walking corpses that are swayed by smell or sight or sound, we now have a herd mentality, a mob of the undead... That's kinda uberscary...

yeah, the single one coming out at the wrong moment is a shock, but the endless wave of undead moving like locusts from point to point...

Creepy.


I wonder also, if there is a kinda intelligence in the behavior, even something simple as a follow the leader way... I noticed that there was a girl in white shorts, a tank top white shirt one, and a ER scrubs wearing one, that my eyes naturally focused on as the herd moved... Nice way of making a few stick out...



Okay.. A thought... It's a commonly accepted fact, that large groups of people loose IQ points in direct relation to the size of the group, the larger the group, the less intelligent the group as a whole... Kinda funny that the undead would actually get smarter the larger the group...

[ineffableone]

That is possible, though in the GN it took them a year to get the prison, in the TV series it has not been close to that time and yes the actor for Carl is getting older so they may have to kill him off, or do something to explain his aging.

A year?

I figure between the time they left the Atlanta camp until the time Hershel kicked them off of the farm and they found the prison was about two or three months. It was already winter when they left Atlanta. And when Rick went back to the farm to invite Hershel's family to come live at the prison, the "roamers" were thawing-out and coming onto the farm in greater numbers......Which was why Hershel agreed to leave.

They actually mention in the GN it had been a year at one point, which is how I knew it had been that long. They also reference time often in the GN, saying things like "that was two weeks ago", or "that happened last month". They also made a big deal of Andrea keeping a Calender. Something I think would help out the TV series a lot would to be to reference the passage of time now and then. Shows like this it is easy to get lost on how much time has passed or hasn't.

[RickOShea]

I think it's barely been two years total as of issue #94.

[ausher]

I wonderbif the reason Hershel's farm wento so long without being overrun by walkers because he had a herd in his barn masking their live human scent. Untill shane went crazy and shot them all. Hershal unknowingly was actually protecting his farm with walkers ....

[ineffableone]

I wonderbif the reason Hershel's farm wento so long without being overrun by walkers because he had a herd in his barn masking their live human scent. Untill shane went crazy and shot them all. Hershal unknowingly was actually protecting his farm with walkers ....

That is a very good possiblity

[USMCSergeant]

SNIP

lori needs to go. she knew shane was a threat (she told rick that shane was a threat). she did not notice her son was gone until it was too late. even knowing that shane orchestrated the escape and plotted to kill her husband, she pulls away from him when he needs support the most. she needs to go.

I agree completely. I know this has probably been brought up, but I can't help it... She has no fucking job in this group, she really does nothing that the show elaborates on besides some cooking and laundry. How about in the ZPAW you watch your kids?... WATCH your fucking kid Lori. I don't blame Rick for giving Carl a gun, apparently during the apocalypse his mother forgets she has a child and allows him to do pretty much whatever floats his boat.

[Silent Kube]

In the gn they explain the herd thing like this. One starts walking after a noise, eventually it'll lose interest/forget what it's chasing. But should that walker pass another that decides to follow, they will eventually forget what they're chasing but continue in the same direction basically following each other. As they move along they pick up more and more, possibly even other groups. It's like a snowball effect.