It's starting (again).....

[UndeadInfidel]

I own a Glock 22 because of the last election. All I could find on the shelves was .17HMR and .40S&W.

Stop it you're scaring me....

Oh wait, I recently purchased 15k 22lr rounds!

[Uncle Chuck]

Hype or not, the prices go up and they don't come back down again. Stocking up now saves money in the long run. Gee, where have I heard that before?

[400 Grains]

By all means, continue promoting the hype which drives the prices up by dwindling the supply.

I'm pretty sure everyone here realizes that election year shortages are purely based on hype, but hype is what generates demand - realistic or not. The only options in this case are to beat the demand by purchasing early, or take your chances paying ridiculous prices after the hype generates demand and drives up the prices.

I'd rather be part of this discussion than the inevitable threads bitching about buying overly inflated ammo.

Exactly right.

Be sure and link to this thread when the "why are prices so high?/Can't find any ____ blank ammo anywhere" threads start up later in the year.

[Kommander]

Hype or not, the prices go up and they don't come back down again. Stocking up now saves money in the long run. Gee, where have I heard that before?

The prices actually do come back down, sometimes lower than they were to begin with. As I said before the last time this happened I and many others here were able to get Arsenal AKs for hundreds of the regular price in October of 2009.

[UndeadInfidel]

Hype or not, the prices go up and they don't come back down again. Stocking up now saves money in the long run. Gee, where have I heard that before?

The prices actually do come back down, sometimes lower than they were to begin with. As I said before the last time this happened I and many others here were able to get Arsenal AKs for hundreds of the regular price in October of 2009.

I think it's a bit different for ammo. I personally don't expect ammo prices to ever be cheaper than they are right now.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

I think the general concensus is that prices tend to rise over time. It would likely bet better to buy prior to these four-year cycles. I'm all for shooting tomorrow at today's prices, but it seems like everyone fo5rgets the steady rises and goes into panic-buy mode. The higher the prices go, the longer they will stay up, since everyone would rather make $5 per box than $2 per box.

[UndeadInfidel]

I think the general concensus is that prices tend to rise over time. It would likely bet better to buy prior to these four-year cycles. I'm all for shooting tomorrow at today's prices, but it seems like everyone fo5rgets the steady rises and goes into panic-buy mode. The higher the prices go, the longer they will stay up, since everyone would rather make $5 per box than $2 per box.

We agree here, but while you're saying panic buying is ridiculous (and we agree), I don't agree that the answer is to tell everyone to "remain calm" and not buy in advance.

Looking at online ammo prices right now, I don't see any major increases in price across the board. The point of this thread is to buy before the prices rise. We all acknowledge that election panics aren't logical. Like buying stock, the point is to buy before the prices rise. No amount of holding out or preaching against panic or rush buying is going to stop the prices from increasing, so the only way to win is understand these cycles and beat them by making your purchases before the illogical mass panic hits.

[AKFTW]

I think the general concensus is that prices tend to rise over time. It would likely bet better to buy prior to these four-year cycles. I'm all for shooting tomorrow at today's prices, but it seems like everyone fo5rgets the steady rises and goes into panic-buy mode. The higher the prices go, the longer they will stay up, since everyone would rather make $5 per box than $2 per box.

We agree here. I don't think you're taking into considering the fact that no amount of holding out or attempting to be rational with the masses will stop rises in prices or panic buying.

Looking at online ammo prices right now, I don't see any major increases in price across the board. The point of this thread is to buy before the prices rise. We all acknowledge that election panics aren't logical. Like buying stock, the point is to buy before the prices rise. No amount of holding out or preaching against panic or rush buying is going to stop the prices from increasing, so the only way to win is understand these cycles and beat them.

I've already seen Golden Tiger 7.62x39 rise in price by $20 a case where you can find it, but most places it is GONE. Glad I got 1500rds when I did, but I wish I had been able to buy more. I think I'll probably end up shooting wolf this summer and saving the GT for special occasions

[UndeadInfidel]

I've already seen Golden Tiger 7.62x39 rise in price by $20 a case where you can find it, but most places it is GONE. Glad I got 1500rds when I did, but I wish I had been able to buy more. I think I'll probably end up shooting wolf this summer and saving the GT for special occasions

Yeah. If anything we're just starting to see shortages in certain areas (I haven't seen any major increases). I've noticed that most of the really "cheap" bulk M855 and M193 has been bought up. All that's left out there are 20 round boxed rounds. We're on the cusp of the incline of prices right now, imo.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

I agree, the solution is to buy low when you can, and try to buy BEFORE the panic buying begins. Avoiding gun-shows helps ease the sore abs caused by spastic laughter at the mid-panic ammo pricing.

[zobmiedown]

There is one other factor that affects ammo sales at time like this. Seems so obvious when you think about it but is still worth mentioning. As people purchase new firearms beacuse they are worried that after the election certain ones may no longer be legal they buy ammo to feed them. I know I have never personally purchased a new weapon with out picking up ammo to feed it. Seems logical when you think about it. Now follow my thoughts on this one. The weapons people are purchasing before they think they will become illegal are in calibers such as .225/5.56, .308/7.65, 9mm, .45 and such. This fact also contributes to ammo shortages which drives price increases.

[Uncle Chuck]

Hype or not, the prices go up and they don't come back down again. Stocking up now saves money in the long run. Gee, where have I heard that before?

The prices actually do come back down, sometimes lower than they were to begin with. As I said before the last time this happened I and many others here were able to get Arsenal AKs for hundreds of the regular price in October of 2009.

I was referring to ammo prices. Please enlighten me: when have ammo prices as a whole declined over time in the last decade?

[JTNieman]

I didn't know people were still shooting much 7.65 - it got pretty hard to find decent prices on that a while ago, too. I guess some people didn't want to accept 9mmLuger as the new hotness.

[Biggin]

Business at our range has been through the roof lately. We are having to hire more people and have more people working each day. It's insane at times. Our gun sales are way up and we just increased our transfers from $25 to $40 because we were doing so many. Business is showing no sign of slowing down either.

We run concealed carry classes every Saturday except for major holidays. Normally we would fill up a week or so in advance.... we were full for March and April in mid February. We are full all the way up to the end of May right now (we run 12 people per class). It's a good thing overall, imo... just makes for stressful work days for me.

[UndeadInfidel]

Hype or not, the prices go up and they don't come back down again. Stocking up now saves money in the long run. Gee, where have I heard that before?

The prices actually do come back down, sometimes lower than they were to begin with. As I said before the last time this happened I and many others here were able to get Arsenal AKs for hundreds of the regular price in October of 2009.

I was referring to ammo prices. Please enlighten me: when have ammo prices as a whole declined over time in the last decade?

Never to my knowledge, other than the reverse slope of the 2008 election panic. Like gas, they never settle at a lower price. It will always go up.

[zobmiedown]

Last time I tried to go to our local range it was packed and a line of people waiting for a open spot. Luckily I have another place I can shoot and dont always have to go to the range.

[UndeadInfidel]

I've been considering buying some upgrades and accessories for a few of my guns lately, but may forgo those upgrades in lieu of more ammo and actual guns. I feel that it would be money better spent at this point in time.

[Kommander]

All I meant was that ammo prices did indeed come down after their election year peak.

[zobmiedown]

I've been considering buying some upgrades and accessories for a few of my guns lately, but may forgo those upgrades in lieu of more ammo and actual guns. I feel that it would be money better spent at this point in time.

I am having the same debate. Accerories may not feel the spike as much and even if they do Irons work for me. Not everything needs an optic but they are fun to acquire and sight in.

[UndeadInfidel]

All I meant was that ammo prices did indeed come down after their election year peak.

They did come back down to an extent, but I don't think they ever settled back into pre-2008 prices. That's what everyone is saying here. I wouldn't expect ammo to ever be less expensive than it currently is.

[zobmiedown]

Best Ammo price I ever found was free. Only catch was I had to sign away my life for four years with a recruiter.

[400 Grains]

Some ammo prices are actually lower today than they were 30 years ago. Before the white box Winchester and Federal American Eagle came out, 9 ball was 14-17 bucks a box, .45 was $18-$20, and .223 was 7-9 bucks a box. I have quite a few boxes of various ammo from the 70's, and the prices on some of it were amazingly high. Everybody reloaded back then, it was the only way we could afford to shoot.

[zobmiedown]

I bet a lot of that cost difference between the 70's and now are due to improvements in production lines and manufacturing processes.

[Czechnology]

I recall 5.56/.223 went up in price like crazy right around spring of 2003 for some reason...

Wonder if the draw-down will help that at all?