Flour---what to do with it?

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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby duodecima » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:43 am

Lynn beat me to it - pasta! Not baked, but offers a whole new realm of variety. Dumplings aren't baked either, but dropped onto soup/stew.

Charcoal, apple box ovens have been mentiond. The "magic box/hay box" oven works with boiling water, so even if all you had was open flame, you could still do some baking with one of those. (Caveat, I haven't made my own and tried it yet.)

I have made pizza over a small charcoal oven. I've made "dinner pies" (spinach, zucchini) in a solar cooker made from tinfoil, cardboard, and an oven bag. Also bread. And, boy, will natural sourdough defend against mold!!! I wrapped a leftover end in 2 layers of saran wrap about 6 weeks ago. It is now one large crouton, but zero mold...

Also brownies. :mrgreen:

I'd like to make a "skillet cookie" that was actually made on a skillet, rather than by putting the skillet in the oven, will post if/when I get that figured out.
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby NamelessStain » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:25 am

I'm amazed we made it to page 2 without someone mentioning hardtack.

The first recipe in this link: http://kenanderson.net/hardtack/recipes.html

3 ingredients: water, flour, salt.

Let them dry and they store well. Just have to use some liquid (like a stew, soup, or gravy) to soften them up and sop up the juices.
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby Fletch » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:31 am

Nenyond wrote:homemade pastas aren't too hard either, essentially justs eggs and flour, rolled out and cut. this ratio is a good start, 3 1/2 c of flour and 4 eggs. Pasta sheets can be used to make ravioli, tortellini, lasagna, or linguini.


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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby ZombieGranny » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:50 pm

I noticed Hugin's link no longer works...
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby Lynn LeFey » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:05 am

NamelessStain wrote:I'm amazed we made it to page 2 without someone mentioning hardtack.


Hardtack isn't food! The the spawn of some ancient evil!

I've made a few batches. Done right, it is frighteningly indestructible. This resilience includes when you try to finally consume it. :lol:

I saw a youtube video where a guy tested it, and seemed to think soaking it in tea was best for making it edible. See if I can find that...

Here that is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV8m7ixWX7Q
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby zombiepreparation » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:13 am

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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby zombiepreparation » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:31 pm

Bread, and bread variations. A handful of flour, oil of some kind, baking soda, liquid to preferred consistency. Cook in a pan on low heat, flipping as needed until done.

The rest is mere variation on that basic theme.

I have only been doing this for two or three months now and I've used flour I've made from oatmeal, Farina, dry cereal, and polenta so far (in addition to traditional wheat of course). I have added to the basic flour/oil/b.soda/liquid things like olive oil, instant milk, canned carrots, sage, figs, sprouted quinoa, cheese, chicken, cinnamon (heavy doses of cinnamon), egg, and on and on and on. I even added vinegar one day after brushing my teeth with baking soda then rinsing with diluted vinegar and found my mouth exploding with bubbles and the thought "I wonder if vinegar would make the baking soda in the bread bubble up like this and rise higher". Vinegar in bread? It was good. Sometimes after I flip it the first time I'll add some beads of water, replace the lid (I always cook with a lid now) and it is sort of like steaming, which makes a more cake like crust on what I'm cooking. I've steam cooked it in my camp cup on a perforated cradle of aluminum foil while boiling water below the cradle in the cup with fine success. One of my best successes as a matter of fact. After it cooked I halved the biscuit, added peaches and syrup from can on top of the halved biscuit plus cinnamon and had a sort of impromptu delicious peach cobbler.

I just keep testing variation after variation. I'm wondering about cooked peas, parsley, instant potatoes, cilantro, zucchini, and a whole host of other things and spices. By using the same basics (plus anything I throw in) then changing the liquid amounts and flavors (apple cider, grape juice, etc) the bread becomes pancakes, cakes, cookies, english muffins, on and on and on. Some of my tests have turned out good enough to give samples to friends, some of my tests are just consumed and forgotten. I don't keep notes yet so I can't yet duplicate what I've done but I make these small quantities (all ingredients have to fit into this one little bowl) of bread and/or bread things in a skillet nearly every day now in under 30 minutes from start to clean-up, and where at first I began learning this to have bread in an Event, bug in, or bug out with only a campstove or tiny open fire in the woods hiding from zombies, it has now become fun, and tasty, and is now a new survival skill I am confident with and a way to make myself useful to a group I might need to align with. I mean seriously, "I" don't know people who do this in a survival type way. I know people who make "bread" or make "cookies" etc. but I don't know anyone who can make it on the fly, so to speak, and with so many things that are just on hand because the zombies are everywhere and the grocery stores have all been looted and this is all I have to work with. It is a prepping comfort.

So that's what I do with flour. hmmm, I think it is time to start practicing with a foil/box/charcoal oven now. I need to find a box.....
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby zombiepreparation » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:09 pm

I still haven't made the box/charcoal oven yet. Drat. But I was given a couple of cans of pumpkin that's used for pumpkin pies I guess. I used some whole wheat flour and made a Bannok size pumpkin bread with it, using dried figs for the sweetener, and lots of cinnamon. I haven't gotten the knack of making light n fluffy breads, I think it's because I still haven't found any aluminum free baking powder to make it rise better plus whole wheat usually makes a heavier bread anyway doesn't it? So my pumpkin bread was heavy but tasty, not so much like a conventional bread or cake but something more like a bready food I imagine the old time fur trappers or Lewis & Clark would be cooking up with flour while they were traipsing around the wilderness. Fortunately for me I like the 'heavy' versions as well as the light n fluffy.
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby huntingohio » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:47 pm

from what ive read hardtack was supposed to be cooked in water or something simmilar.

I myself made a batch of it and would break it up and boil it with pemmican making a sort of venison steww qith hard dumpling chunk, not great but ive eaten worse
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Re: Flour---what to do with it?

Postby zombiepreparation » Mon May 07, 2012 12:04 am

Tonight I made a quick pan 'cake' with some flour. I had part of a packet of powder for instant hot chocolate left over from months ago. (I just don't find I like that stuff though in an Event my mind would probably change :) ) I added what was left in the packet to that s.i.m.p.l.e. Bannok I make all the time to see what it would do, added more water to make the batter thinner, and stirred it several minutes to get the batter creamy. It turned out to be a fine flavor and while I was eating it (hand held) I started thinking about what a comfort and treat this would make for kids during an Event that was disrupting their lives with confusion, insecurity, maybe even fear.
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