Head stomping

[Bingo]

Guess what im going to do tonight

[Ivan]

not the same as an actual test, but a story from my friend that he brought back from Marine boot camp. There was part of the training where you learn to knock a person down and put the heel of your boot through there skull. In training the person knocked to the ground brings their hands up to their forehead to block the blow (which isn't done at full strength)

They (unfortunately) found out what happens when someone doesnt bring their hands up to block, and the guy was sent home with severe brain damage. He was left pretty close to a zombie.

I would therefore imagine that one could possible incapacitate or kill a zombie with a heel-kick to the skull. Thats not to say that it would be easy to get said zombie into the position that one would be able to administer the blow.

[skriiva4]

I would use a side kick to escape, rather than attempting the curbstomp to the head. In all honesty though, the sole reason I even found this forum, was because I had the same question.

[M14fan]

Youtube has a number of coconut stomping videos. It is possible.

[SeaDog]

What kind of kid doesn't carry a weapon to school these days? That's just asking for trouble.

[Raven927]

I think a head stomp might work. If you stomp on the temple or weak side of the head if there head is laying face flat on the side. I stomped a coconut i had in the fridge for 4 days. I think kicking it in the jaw and breaking it would be more effective so it couldn't bite you.

I thin using an axe kick to the temple when there down would be stronger than a stomp.

[skriiva4]

Being an advanced 5th Gup in Tang Soo Do, I would have to argue that a stomp, using the heel, is more powerful than an axe kick... Also, breaking the jaw wouldn't do much, because even with a broken jaw, you can be infected by scratches, or any amount of slobber from the zombie, if he managed to scratch you with one of its teeth.

[AUA]

First things first...

Good God, eight year necro!



I figure that if you have the time/space to knock them to the ground, you can simply avoid them. Ultimately, there are always going to be more zombies, so I figure that unless this zombie is absolutely going to impede your progress and/or endanger lives, you might as well leave it on the ground and move on. Every second and every ounce of energy you spend fighting a zombie is time and energy that could be used for other things, and if you're fighting your way back to your BOL or something (meaning, food/water supplies are limited to a day-pack type thing), loss of either could prove hazardous in the long run.

Of course, if we're doing takedowns, I'd rather take them down face down and stomp their neck for severe spinal cord damage; would probably be a fair bit easier, I'd imagine, and no chance of them stopping your stomp to bite your ankle.

My two cents on this.

[skriiva4]

*likes* the comment above

[ShastaHawk]

Well, thats what the situation, no wepons...just pure man power.

I that case, run like hell if no weapons are available. Trying to get a zombie down to do a head stomp is pure idiocy, imo, and should be avoided

[Sebass]

http://youtu.be/JveOq_Zbt1M?t=2m39s
^Proper technique from a true master^

[squinty]

It takes no special skill or technique to seriously hurt somebody by head stomping them when they are on the ground. Fine for fictitious monsters maybe (ie, it's ok for a Zombie Combat Tactic), but in real life good luck claiming self defense after administering a head stomp to a downed opponent. The jury will - correctly - conclude that the "fight" was over once your opponent was down, and that no matter what preceded the head stomping, you committed a serious assault when you brought your foot down on your opponent's head..

[zombehboy]

i'm a fan of the headstomp thanks to re, but you bring up a good point. as many times as i've seen it done in movies and videogames i never thought to question how hard i'd actually have to bring my foot down. i guess if i was in this situation i'd just go for a good hard kick to the face in the hopes that that would hopefully be enough to maybe snap the neck. seems like it'd take awhile to bring your foot down and use the right amount of force. i don't know if i'd be okay with trying this and failing and then leaving myself open.

[SaintPendulous]

Hope this helps!

"It only takes 33 ft pounds of energy to fracture a skull, or
approximately 398 inch pounds of energy"

http://www.eijkhout.net/rad/dance_other/health4.html

[silversnake]

i'm a fan of the headstomp thanks to re, but you bring up a good point. as many times as i've seen it done in movies and videogames i never thought to question how hard i'd actually have to bring my foot down. i guess if i was in this situation i'd just go for a good hard kick to the face in the hopes that that would hopefully be enough to maybe snap the neck. seems like it'd take awhile to bring your foot down and use the right amount of force. i don't know if i'd be okay with trying this and failing and then leaving myself open.

I don't think you actually need an answer to the question of "how hard do I have to bring my foot down?" Assuming a fiction world of actual walking dead (like the TV show and various movies) all agree that you first do everything in your power to not ever have to engage in hand to hand combat with a walking corpse. If that first line of defense fails and you're actually in a position to need to use your foot to crush a zombie skull, it's going to be a matter of bringing the boot down as hard as you can and it will either work or not. I mean, what's your other option? Do you say "gee, I don't think I can generate the necessary foot-pounds of force so I guess I'll just stand here and be eaten"?

[SaintPendulous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApzsKzOA4sA&feature=g-all-u&context=G212e8f3FAAAAAAAAEAA

[beheadtheundead]

Hope this helps!

"It only takes 33 ft pounds of energy to fracture a skull, or
approximately 398 inch pounds of energy"

http://www.eijkhout.net/rad/dance_other/health4.html

Wouldn't it be even less for a zombie since the bones will start to become brittle after death?

[nefarious666]

you can totally crush a skull with your boot. it's called curbing. gruesome.

Yeah because the zombies gonna lay down still with its mouth on the curb waiting for you to jump on it

[MadMock]

Assuming you have the strength to stomp through a zed head, there are other things to consider. The first being, if your foot and ankle breach the skull, there will most likely be jagged bone fragments that will scratch/puncture your leg. Secondly, you run the risk of getting your foot lodged in the cranium; you will have to use your hands to free yourself. Finally, there is the risk of fluids blowing back onto your clothes, or face. If you are skull stomping a zombie, you have already incapacitated it and are probably in a 1 on 1 situation. In this case, it is probably in your best interest to disengage.