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SwampRat's adventures in suburban gardening.

Postby SwampRat » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:12 pm

So, I've always been a ground planter. Run the tiller, throw down some seeds, water liberally, enjoy. I now find my self off the homestead and in a suburban neighborhood with a small (tiny) back yard. So, being a creature of habit, I struck the ground with my shovel to find that under a thin layer of sod, it's hard pan orange clay for as far as you'd care to dig. Awesome :roll: .

This would be my second attempt to garden in the burbs. The first was a series of self watering bucket planters over the summer that I both had mixed results with (burnt to hell and dog chewed) and learned a lot from. Unsatisfied with the outcome I decided, like the hard headed bear I am, that I'd just garden in the winter then. Hell, why not?

Following the necessary procedure, I submitted form HD32, a request for project funds with the boss. She gracefully issued me a grant for backyard beautification and salad creation.

I worked the plans all up in my head, and put it all together out of a mess of 8' dimensional cedar and 4 pressure treated corner posts. Add a little wire to keep the pooches out and TA DA!

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Kept it all nice and simple, 8' and 4' not a lot of measuring, just eyeball and cut. I've worked on boats for many years and done construction on them, so I'm pretty good at working where nothing is square, eyeballing and cutting each piece to fit. It's a skill. You may have heard the joke, "Wanted: Painters and Carpenters, sailors need not apply." I have weed cloth down in these pictures, but I later opted to take it out, as you will see.

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So It started getting cold. And I needed to keep the garden going. So I got a few sheets of the thickest (4.mil) plastic I could scrounge up in the painting section of Lowes and went to work with the stapler. You can see I cut chunks of pipe insulation and stapled them to the sharp edges, which is working well. I then took a paddle bit and drilled holes at an angle into the corner posts and fitted 2 pieces of 1/2 inch PVC into them, and added two or three zip ties where they cross to keep them together. Draped plastic over, pulled tight and stapled, folded over and stapled again for strength. Leaving the front loose over the gates with a length of pipe taped and rolled up in it and taped again. This way you can just roll up the pipe and swing the gates open and then set the pipe on the gates to hold it up.

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On the side is one of the 10 dollar 'dusk to dawn' timers for Christmas lights. I originally bought a 'thermo cube' to control the heat lamp, but then I thought I would like it to come on before it hit 30 degrees. It goes to a three way outlet inside to the lamps.

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And here we have the lamps, one heat lamp and one grow light. Why? Because I have a tendency to over engineer the hell out of everything I touch. Yes, I see the ant's eating my beet. My lovely assistant already dusted them in DE.

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Spinach in the front, then beets and cabbage in the back there. Also a few squash that popped up you can't see, and the eggplant along the back didn't show up for the party.

Another thing you can see is a 50' soaker hose faked around between the rows and held down with garden staples. That's hooked to an Orbit timer to water for about 10 minutes every third day at noon. Seems to be working well so far.

I hope you enjoyed my little project. Please feel free to ask questions or make suggestions. And as always, thanks for sticking it out through my long ass post.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:21 pm

Ahh, couple things I forgot to mention. First, I bought a metric shit ton (MST) of heirloom seeds from MyPatriotSupply.com and next year I'll be starting with those. Secondly, I scored seed starting soil and a bunch of compostable pots from walmart on deep clearance a few weeks ago, I'm going to put them on old cookie sheets or something and start them in the 'green house', so all my plants are covered for spring. And last, it occurred to me that this would make a sweet little rabbit pen. Plant it with clover or something and let them go all summer then butcher for fall and mix the dirt and plant, capital idea!
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Collie of Doom » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:08 pm

SwampRat wrote:Ahh, couple things I forgot to mention. First, I bought a metric shit ton (MST) of heirloom seeds from MyPatriotSupply.com and next year I'll be starting with those. Secondly, I scored seed starting soil and a bunch of compostable pots from walmart on deep clearance a few weeks ago, I'm going to put them on old cookie sheets or something and start them in the 'green house', so all my plants are covered for spring. And last, it occurred to me that this would make a sweet little rabbit pen. Plant it with clover or something and let them go all summer then butcher for fall and mix the dirt and plant, capital idea!


Thanks for the photos. And nice rabbit hutch idea. Monoculture is not as efficient as using an animal to provide manure to better next crop of plants, and eating some of said animal along with crops. Although bunnies are kinda cute and furry. I might go with chickens (and then get attached to them too.)
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Kusala » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:32 am

Great set up! I've been looking into making some raised bed gardens (though maybe not through the winter...but now you have me thinking). Nice pictures too; they really help get a good sense of all that went into it.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Blast » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:31 am

Awesome! Raised-bed gardening is the way to go here in Spring. The soil in most neighborhoods is a combination of crap and clay. :( Your system blows my raised-bed boxes away, I like how you can cover yours.

Being new to the area you might find the gardening calendars and suggested plants lists from the Harris county extension office to be useful. I follow their guidelines and have really good results.
http://harris.agrilife.org/program-area ... ies-herbs/

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http://intotheborderlands.blogspot.com/ ... sited.html
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby nateted4 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:41 am

That's a nice looking garden bed!
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:32 pm

Thanks for all the compliments guys. I really over engineered the shit out of it because I was so angry at the dogs for destroying my bucket plants. Wasn't gonna let that happen again. I have a plan to expand the beds out along the wall in both directions using cheaper lumber, and a little electric fence around it at about pooch nose height, instead of the fence, for the spring. Mostly wanting corn, tomatoes and squash for my spring crop. And plant some green manure in the current bed to let it rest and get ready for fall. I also have plans to tear out the crappy landscaping in the front of the house and turn it into a pepper garden. I have chillies, habenaro, banana, bell, and serrano seeds ready to go. I can already tell I'm going to have problems with the HOA :twisted: . Just wait till I start the hydroponics...

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Sweet, I wish I had that much room!
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Blast » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:00 pm

SwampRat wrote:
Blast wrote:-Blast

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Sweet, I wish I had that much room!

It's all shoved into a 30'x70' space. You have even less than that?!
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Blast » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:23 pm

Want some cassava cuttings?
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2008/08/ca ... pioca.html

Full sun, loose soil, protect from freezing. The leaves are high in protein and the tubers can be used like potatoes. I also have plenty of Jerusalem artichoke tubers.

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p.s. This offer is also open to anyone in the Spring area or anyone who wants to drive to Spring.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:31 pm

Ahh man, If I had to guess, I'd say maybe 35x20. Which takes some getting used to, because I just came from living on 15 acres in Florida. And I'll give it a shot at growing. Will it take root this time of year? I'm currently in NY, so it will be another week and half before I'm back home. We need to wrangle up the Spring people and have a beer when I get in.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Blast » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:15 pm

Wow, 35x20? Ouch.
The cassava cuttings are a lot like willow branches, just stick them in the ground and stand back. :lol:
Over the course of spring & summer the cuttings will grow into small trees about 4'x4'. Protect the planted cuttings from hard freezes, but the occasional 29-32F isn't a problem.

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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Blast » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:18 pm

SwampRat wrote:I also have plans to tear out the crappy landscaping in the front of the house and turn it into a pepper garden. I have chillies, habenaro, banana, bell, and serrano seeds ready to go. I can already tell I'm going to have problems with the HOA :twisted: . Just wait till I start the hydroponics...


You need some chili pequins. Scoville units 100,000 to 400,000!
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2011/09/chile-pequin.html
They have a wonderful, smokey flavor and are attractive, too.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby eugene » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:29 pm

Why did you take the weed cloth out?
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:04 pm

Blast wrote:
You need some chili pequins. Scoville units 100,000 to 400,000!
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2011/09/chile-pequin.html
They have a wonderful, smokey flavor and are attractive, too.
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added to the list.

eugene wrote:Why did you take the weed cloth out?

Because while completely automated, I travel for work, sometime more than a month away from home at a time. During my absence, the garden is left in the care of my beautiful assistant, who is a novice gardener. She is learning quick and does a great job but is still very new to the green thumb game. I removed the cloth because I was afraid she would not be able to tell how moist the soil is with it on, or see ant infestations, like the one in the picture.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:54 pm

Getting everything geared up for growing season. Made a few additions. Added a cattle panel fence to keep the attack hounds out of the plants, and the black thingy is the beginnings of a potato tower.ImageImageImage

Here is my fancy gate with a close up of the hinge system.
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Waiting on some smart pots that should show up tomorrow, and there is gonna be a planting extravaganza this weekend.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Dawgboy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:22 pm

I like your gate. Simple is always good.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:37 pm

Thanks. I wish I'd of used hog wire for the walls of the little raised bed and done the gates on it the same way.

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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby Collie of Doom » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:26 am

Man, I need to get started! I have seeds, some new, some heirloom seeds my uncle gave me last year (he gave me way too many.) Unfortunately, last time I moved I left most of my planters with the neighbor. I can't recall why I thought that was a good idea. I'll have to procure more and soil, stat. The dirt here is mostly rocks, and the rest of it has the consistency of cement unless it has rained in the last half hour. Also have to take into consideration the dog. She doesn't typically chew up stuff for the hell of it, but it's not unheard of when boredom strikes. I like your set up.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:34 pm

Did some more work last night, got asparagus, onions, garlic and corn planted.

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Postby SwampRat » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:22 pm

And the corn. Picked up this tub at Lowes, thought it would make a good planter for about 9 plants.Image

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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby SwampRat » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:24 am

Anyone have any tips to keep the neighbors cats out of my garden? Damn cats...

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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby TacAir » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:29 am

SwampRat wrote:Anyone have any tips to keep the neighbors cats out of my garden? Damn cats...

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I don't get angry at the cats, just their owners for thinking my garden is their cat's sandbox. We finally put thin plastic mesh (think plastic chicken wire) over the soil. This summer I'm going to the pound and borrowing a couple of 'safety' traps.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby CitizenZ » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:31 pm

I like. I'm working on something similar.

Cats are not very imaganitive on breaking in. Just close up the obvious paths. Something to keep them from walking the fence, bird netting across the top, something to keep them from getting thru that opening in the corner, etc. Unlike rats, which are almost impossible to stop once they get started. Cats also don't seem to like a lot of the anti-deer treatments like plantings (mint, etc) and dusting with deer scram. It's not made for them, but they don't seem to like it either.
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Re: First attempt at raised bed gardening/greenhouse convers

Postby stimpy321972 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:29 pm

Swamp, good job,

I am embarrased at my meager raised bed garden that I have had for the past couple of years. I have new motivation and I am going to step up my game.


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