What is your bug out setup?

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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby MSurber90 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:17 pm

For bugging-in, everything I own. If the situation deteriorates so badly that staying in my home would mean certain death, then my BOB and Glock 17 RTF. If I'm in my Jeep, I'll include the AR-15 and maybe the 74 to have as a back up gun.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby huntingohio » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:43 pm

Bugging out is a general term. Whats happening? Is my house burning down? Is there an impending natural disaster? an invading army?

in gereal I go with the less is more theory. In any situation the last thing i wanna do is be carrying around an ak or ar, thats a quick way to make yourself a target for bad guys and nervous law enforcement alike. They dont know if your a badguy or not, look at instances from katrina, they didnt like guns to much then.
If someone were to walk in my door, that i didnt know, carrying a rifle and wearing a tac vest and a bob, my first response if that they are a threat. I'd draw down and fire instantly, just saying. Now factor in people on edge with life being thrown outta the normal loop, threat of loss of life, and families to protect, thatll turn bad real real quick.

Myself my ccw a few mags loaded and a box of ammo are all thats going with on foot. I have a 22 or shotgun in my trunk at all times so if im in the ride that'll go too.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby HKTackDriver » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:34 pm

I live on high ground for Long Island, so bugging out is not an option. First, because it's not necessary and second because it's impractical to leave this island through it's notorious choke points where everyone else will be evacuating to. Otherwise, I'd get a boat off the island and it wouldn't be a BO, it'd be a INCH. I don't leave for hurricane, tornadoes receive a bug in and absent a tsunami, I can't think of a reason to leave where I'd actually come back. Hence my INCH kit.

I can understand a bug out kit for people near the shores, but you'd be packing up your cars full of personal items in an attempt to save them from water and storm damage - not pack up a water purifier, hammock, knives, guns, etc to have a campout. It's nothing more than a fantasy by survivalists who want to prove how much better prepared they are than the rest of the community.

So, after pissing on your parade, my INCH setup, which I consider a true doomsday EOTWAWKI scenario involves a number of weapons being packed into my BOV and if not my BOV, then if I'm on foot, I have a S&W 317 kit gun, which weighs nothing, a CZ SP01 9mm side arm and either my ACR or my gas piston AR15. My wife has an FN PS90 and a 5.7 pistol for ease of use and maintenance as well as light weight. It's the smallest bad guy caliber I'd roll with based on our bullet proof vest tests. For a small caliber, it really performs.

As a final note, my group of preppers has all started buying S&W 317's after seeing how accurate, lightweight and "kit friendly" it is. I highly recommend them.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby strm_trpr » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:15 pm

For me Buging out would only be a extream response and would only happen with a complete failure of the State because I am an LEO. I would more than likely be called in and be performing law enforcement functions untill the crisis is over. If this was the case I would be rocking my duty kit.

If the state collapsed and it was a true every man for himself situation then I would still bug in at my house, If I bugged out it would be out to my parents house or their cabbin.

Now for the fun part, if I did bug out and it would be big if I would rock my 16inch middy AR with 5 total mags, and my glock 23, my Mossberg would be on my bag. The wife would rock her p22 and my 10/22 for the meal ticket when supplies run out. But I doubt this would ever happen.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby thechin » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:36 am

Is there a certain time of year everyone‘s BOB gear is leaning towards? I have both and INCH and BOB setup for both summer and winter. Below is my BOB

Winter Bug Gear
Rifle: Mosin Nagant, 250 rounds
Sidearm: 1911 22Lr, 2000 rounds
Equipment: Winter coat, boots, scarf, GPS locator, mesh kit, fire starting kit, first aid kit, spare clothing, fishing kit, MREs, illumination
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Rifle: DPMS LR308, 250 rounds (cased)
Sidearm: 1911 .45, 250 rounds
Equipment: Concealable soft armor, Serpa CQC holster, GPS locator, mesh kit, fire starting kit, first aid kit, spare clothing, fishing kit, MREs, illumination
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Hawaiianbro10 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:38 pm

All around season
Rifle: RRA LAR15 Elite Operator 2
Shotguns: 870, Saiga 410
Pistols: Glock 19, S&W M&P 40
Ammo
1000 rounds of 9, 5.56
500 rounds of 40sw
100 rounds of 20 gauge(Birdshot, Buck000, HP Slug)
100 rounds of 410 (Defensive purpose rounds 3" PDX1 Rounds and Federal 000Buck)
Food: Enough Can food to last my at least a 2 months before I need to go out and look for food
Cloths: I have enough cloths to last 3 weeks If I needed too.

As well there are other families in my neighborhood who would be much helpful due to survival skills and armories they have.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby brothaman » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:36 am

I'm with those in this thread that want to remain sensible, but likely won't resist the urge to pack ammo in every open space of their pack. However, I've come to this. I've got this little 5.11 shoulder bag that holds my core BOB items. It still has room for 2 bulk packs of .22lr and 2 100rd boxes of 9mm. My shoulder bag , my glock and a few mags, and my .22 lever. It's a bit over kill on the ammo, but having the extra lead would be a confidence builder in a possibly tough situation. That could make all the difference. Since my family's plan definitely involves bugging out to the main family homestead for a bug-in, anything else we need would be there.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Badlands » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:12 am

BushMasterAR15 with 2000 rnds 5.56
Remington tactical 870 with 400rnds 00 buck
Kimber tactical 45acp 1000 rnds 230 gr
Smith & Wesson 642 38spl in an ankle holster & 500 rnds +P
Cold Steel Tanto with skull crusher.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby UndeadInfidel » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:59 pm

Hawaiianbro10 wrote:All around season
Rifle: RRA LAR15 Elite Operator 2
Shotguns: 870, Saiga 410
Pistols: Glock 19, S&W M&P 40
Ammo
1000 rounds of 9, 5.56
500 rounds of 40sw
100 rounds of 20 gauge(Birdshot, Buck000, HP Slug)
100 rounds of 410 (Defensive purpose rounds 3" PDX1 Rounds and Federal 000Buck)
Food: Enough Can food to last my at least a 2 months before I need to go out and look for food
Cloths: I have enough cloths to last 3 weeks If I needed too.

As well there are other families in my neighborhood who would be much helpful due to survival skills and armories they have.


Badlands wrote:BushMasterAR15 with 2000 rnds 5.56
Remington tactical 870 with 400rnds 00 buck
Kimber tactical 45acp 1000 rnds 230 gr
Smith & Wesson 642 38spl in an ankle holster & 500 rnds +P
Cold Steel Tanto with skull crusher.


These seem realistic. Must have some Terminators in here.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby PistolPete » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:51 pm

UndeadInfidel wrote:These seem realistic. Must have some Terminators in here.

Yeah, remember this thread is for what you are carrying on you if you have to bug out from your house. I think some people are listing what they have stored. If I'm leaving my house for a short period of time with hopes of returning I'm not packing 2,000 rounds of ammo. Food, water, clothing and first aid gear is much more important.

In my BOB I've got a Sig 226 in .40s&w with 3 mags full of good hp ammo. I think that's a reasonable balance between weight and utility.
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What is your bug out setup?

Postby EmbraceTheHate » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:19 am

An Ak and a Sig 9mm


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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Brymstone666 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:52 pm

In the event I have to bug out then there has been a series of circumstances that has precipitated the need to do so.

1) The home/area I am occupying has become contaminated, infected, irradiated or otherwise unfit to reside in any longer as it is now considered a hostile/inhospitable environment.

2) Hostile forces are too close in proximity to my position and have become too large in number to directly oppose with my limited supply of ammunition/weaponry and an
overt offensive confrontation would more than likely lead to my house being laid siege to, in which my family and I would either be starved out, burned out or simply overrun.

3) A natural or man-made disaster has caused enough damage to my home and the surrounding area as to compromise it's capacity to serve as means of shelter and provide
the necessary resources for short or long term survival.

I'm sure there are other reasons that would cause someone to bug out, however, regardless of why one has to bug out my weapon selection will always be a handgun first and foremost. The reason for this is that a concealable handgun will always be with me on my person which is where you need a weapon to be in a bug out situation.

I realize it's an opinion but a long gun will simply slow you down when on the go. Bugging out means you must now get from an area in which you no longer have the available means for you and your family/group to survive to an area that provides said resources.

While on the go whether you are trying to simply survive on the move or possibly escape/evade makes for very hard travel. You must make every pound you are carrying count, water, food and shelter must be accounted for in such a strategy. Weapons and ammunition now become important but not nearly as important as the essentials for you and your group's basic survival needs. Alternatives to taking game must be considered IMO, realistically, hunting for game larger than squirrels, rabbits, birds or other small-game simply will not be a viable option as it will use too much of your precious time and limited resources to successfully accomplish. The amount of exposure to possibly hostile forces or elements/time/resources/calories it requires to "hunt" a deer or larger game would simply not pay off if one was successfully killed/transported/butchered while on the move. Powerful slingshots, a break-down air gun or simple rat traps might be a better option as small game can be killed/trapped this way.

If you are travelling then you may have to deal with checkpoints on any well used roads, streets or other areas of passage. Upon being stopped/questioned/searched any weapon they find WILL be confiscated and you just might find your way to a "safe zone" detention area in which you will be made more than comfortable (that is if you like doing everything someone else tells you to do). Trying to evade such checkpoints will make your progress even more arduous as you will more than likely have to travel by very inhospitable terrain. If you are travelling with elderly or young children it will make your travel even that much more difficult (try taking your kids for a 5 mile nature walk and see what I mean).

Main point, a concealed handgun with a reasonable amount of ammo will serve you better on the run than a long gun will. A long gun is heavier and more "visible", the ammo is heavier as well. When viewed by any authority figures or opportunistic bandits/bad guys a long gun makes you an immediate potential target as they now know you have a weapon and ammo. That means you are dangerous to the authorities in a martial law scenario and someone that has a valuable resource in the eyes of bandits/scavengers that may possibly be lurking along your path of travel. Bandits/scavengers will more than likely try to attack anyone but giving them a head's up as to what you "have" gives them too much forewarning IMO.

Just my two dollars worth, any SHTF plan cannot be foolproof but it's always good to at least have one.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Hawaiianbro10 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:15 pm

Ah yeah

My Bob bag would have.
First aid kit which has the bandages, cleaning solutions etc.
Survival Kit
5 Cans of food
Small Iron Pan for cooking
small sleeping tent (camo)
Self powered radio

Situation Pending on the disaster
I would take my M&P 40 but 9mm ammo maybe more easily had so I would take my Glock 19
As well I would leave my long rifle behind and take my Remington 870 incase I run into any large predators
I would carry 20 rounds of shotgun slugs and 20 rounds #3 shot and 20 rounds of #4 shot
For my pistol I would carry 5 15 round mags of 9mm ammo in which would be from Speer gold dot and Hydro shock rounds.


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As said I would avoid any confrontation with anyone, considering I would monitor a group of people and see what they do to others before even engaging in any conflict.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby lokifz1 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:30 pm

Thechin curious on why you change weapons based on season.

Myself I have a cross section of supplies divided that go to:

1. Family rally point. (extended family).
2. Trunk of my Department vehicle.
3. My office at the PD.
4. Items that stay at home.

And everything depends on situation.

Last year early in the AM, when the teletypes started warning that there would be a serious tornado's, my wife and kids were at the rally point in the shelter with all the toys food etc they would need. That was a great relief to me as I watched one hit two blocks away from my house.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby azstinger » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:27 pm

I'm with the crowd of it depends. If I am in the car then anything that will fit along with the ammo.

Normal bug out would probably be either a CCW pistol and say 2-3 mags, then either something like a sub2000 or a henry survival rifle with either 2 33 glock sticks or say 200 or so .22LR

Now if the world has gone to pot and I think I'm in danger then its probably the AK and the pistol.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby blarp » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:16 am

For my bug out gear i have a vest. 12 ar mags 4 glock mags. Maps so on... pistol belt is 4 glock mags and sropleg glock. 40

My bob.. well bob and inch mix bag holds 4 more ar mags 200 lose glock rou.ds and 250 more ar rounds. I also have a bug out ammo bag with. A shit ton more if leaving in a truck car so on or for someone els to strap on if with me.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Black » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:16 pm

I prefer to only own firearms I can carry if the need arises. So, I only have four:

My 10.5" LMT AR15 SBR w/ YHM 5.56 Silencer (I also have a 6.5" .22LR upper for it)
Marlin 336 .30-30 lever action w/ AAC Phantom 7.62 Silencer
XD45
Sig P238

In my pack I keep a weeks worth of Albacore, clothes, ect. I then have my vest with ammo, ect. My goal is to simply reach my cabin, which is 4 hours away but I can get there with half a tank of gas. So, I keep my car above half a tank at all times. My cabin is pretty stocked w/ a wood burning fireplace, a well, and solar power. Plenty of game within 100 feet of it daily and a half-mile away is a small lake with fish. I also have food and a reloading setup there (carrying a billion rounds on you is highly unrealistic). Easily defended as one way road in the forest + chainsaw makes it easy to block the road off.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby banghowdy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:33 am

im curious as to know:

this is a open ended question for everybody. if your going to bug out, why didnt you designate a place to evac to? if the threat comes from outside, why would you try to coexist with the impending threat? also, bugging in is a good thing for the fact that when you have to bug out, the panic and the evacuation is gone. so why are you out on foot?

if I have to bug out, of course i am going to bring my .45 because ammunition is readily available. secondly, and most of all, if you bug out you must gather your information during the time you bugged in. keep up to date on new routes and places of safety. intel will definitely keep you from running in the wilds to either A.) youre eatin alive in your tent or
B.) you run out of supplies and are eatin alive while gathering supplies in the wild.

I would carry enough supplies to last me for a 5 day trip. i would go to convient and corner stores for what scraps are available. then i would carry a map with 5 designated locations for ideal survival. because if youre going to evac, you need a destination. then fortify that destination. then you prepare that place for bugging in. establish your community. then rebuild civilization.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby banghowdy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:34 am

Black wrote:I prefer to only own firearms I can carry if the need arises. So, I only have four:

My 10.5" LMT AR15 SBR w/ YHM 5.56 Silencer (I also have a 6.5" .22LR upper for it)
Marlin 336 .30-30 lever action w/ AAC Phantom 7.62 Silencer
XD45
Sig P238

In my pack I keep a weeks worth of Albacore, clothes, ect. I then have my vest with ammo, ect. My goal is to simply reach my cabin, which is 4 hours away but I can get there with half a tank of gas. So, I keep my car above half a tank at all times. My cabin is pretty stocked w/ a wood burning fireplace, a well, and solar power. Plenty of game within 100 feet of it daily and a half-mile away is a small lake with fish. I also have food and a reloading setup there (carrying a billion rounds on you is highly unrealistic). Easily defended as one way road in the forest + chainsaw makes it easy to block the road off.



i like your thinking man! your definitely the go to guy.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Jsimmonsgr » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:42 am

I use a upgraded AR for a long gun and a pair of 1911s for handguns, I also carry a Bersa thunder .380 as a B.U.G. My bug out set is based on a military MOLLE vest rig with a 5 day ranger pack ( back pack). It allows for ( in loaded mags) 480 rounds of 5.56, 50+ .45, and about 30 .380. About 5 days worth of food, filtration and purification for water, extra clothes, spare parts for my weapons, a SOG Fasthawk, Cold Steel Kukri machete, and a week supply of smokes\chew rounds things out.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Alpha-17 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:36 pm

Ideally I'd prefer to bug-in, but considering my BOL is in KS, and I'm in NC, the chances of not having to BO are slim.

If I do have to BO, my primary long arm will be my SCAR 17S, with my Para USA 1911 as my side arm. If at all possible I'll fold my SCAR 16S and keep it in my BOB as a backup/alternate caliber/spare parts gun.
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby angelofwar » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:03 pm

Alpha-17 wrote:Ideally I'd prefer to bug-in, but considering my BOL is in KS, and I'm in NC, the chances of not having to BO are slim.

If I do have to BO, my primary long arm will be my SCAR 17S, with my Para USA 1911 as my side arm. If at all possible I'll fold my SCAR 16S and keep it in my BOB as a backup/alternate caliber/spare parts gun.


I want a decent 1911 so bad...I have to prioritize though, and a long range sniper rifle had to come first, since I already had a pistol...which is why i got my Remington 700. I'm not sure what to grab next...a Taurus Judge, or a 1911???
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby Jsimmonsgr » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:02 pm

angelofwar wrote:
Alpha-17 wrote:Ideally I'd prefer to bug-in, but considering my BOL is in KS, and I'm in NC, the chances of not having to BO are slim.

If I do have to BO, my primary long arm will be my SCAR 17S, with my Para USA 1911 as my side arm. If at all possible I'll fold my SCAR 16S and keep it in my BOB as a backup/alternate caliber/spare parts gun.


I want a decent 1911 so bad...I have to prioritize though, and a long range sniper rifle had to come first, since I already had a pistol...which is why i got my Remington 700. I'm not sure what to grab next...a Taurus Judge, or a 1911???



Why not get a Taurus 1911? My 1911 with a rail is a Taurus alloy framed 1911. Fully loaded it weighs half of what my Springfield does empty. Shoots like a champ too......
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Re: What is your bug out setup?

Postby John the Giant » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:24 am

FN Five-seveN
Arsenal SGL 31
6 magazines each

BOL is super well stocked between my brother, father, grandfather and neighbors of the property.
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