DUMBEST F*&@king thing you've ever heard NOT ON THE ZS FORUM

[squinty]

However anyone approaches the management, the important thing is to convey that this isn't a small thing, that they are in effect telling people to go away...

Every place is different... But the tone should always be respectful and polite...


A lot of times, it's simply ignorance that places the sign on the door... I think it's better to let the powers that be (however you think best at the time) your concerns...

It shouldn't be a gun issue, it should be a customer service issue...




Edit; sorry about the derail... Just in case, Dumbest... can both point to the people who put up the sign, and those who either ignore it, or assume that it's another antigun deal... Which it may not be...

Honestly, I didn't and don't blame the people at the restaurant for their reaction. I felt like it was at least partially a failure on my part, that I made them more apprehensive about guns instead of less so.

[SeerSavant]

Honestly, I didn't and don't blame the people at the restaurant for their reaction. I felt like it was at least partially a failure on my part, that I made them more apprehensive about guns instead of less so.

I dunno... A lot of people go most of their lives without ever seeing a gun in real life... The first time they see one it can be a WTF moment... I firmly believe that the more exposure someone gets, the less "boogyman" effect the gun has...

Too many people have the idea that only LEOs, Military, and bad guys carry guns...

We should all think not just as exercising a right, but also as ambassadors of the gun culture to those who may have never made up their mind... If we behave the douche, they will see us as an example of all gun owners... But if we behave with respect and confidence, but not arrogance...




Back on topic...

In case it hasn't been said yet...."VELCRO IS TOO LOUD!!!"

[KnightoftheRoc]

However anyone approaches the management, the important thing is to convey that this isn't a small thing, that they are in effect telling people to go away...

Every place is different... But the tone should always be respectful and polite...


A lot of times, it's simply ignorance that places the sign on the door... I think it's better to let the powers that be (however you think best at the time) your concerns...

It shouldn't be a gun issue, it should be a customer service issue...




Edit; sorry about the derail... Just in case, Dumbest... can both point to the people who put up the sign, and those who either ignore it, or assume that it's another antigun deal... Which it may not be...

Honestly, I didn't and don't blame the people at the restaurant for their reaction. I felt like it was at least partially a failure on my part, that I made them more apprehensive about guns instead of less so.

That MAY have been the result, but it wasn't your fault- you open carried, didn't live up to any of the hype that would portray you as "a gun nut", or commit a crime. In cases like this, the minds are already made up, and nothing you do will change them.

[painiac]

We have a similar law in Ohio. A "no guns" sign has the force of law.

However anyone approaches the management, the important thing is to convey that this isn't a small thing, that they are in effect telling people to go away...

Ohioans for Concealed Carry sells these "no guns, no money" cards to hand out to business owners who post no guns signs.



The picture is kind of hard to read. Text is as follows:

Front: "We have noticed your sign, and are going to respect your wishes by shopping elsewhere. You lost my business today and in the future. For your convenience, you will be added to our 'Do Not Patronize' database."

Back: "As an Ohio Concealed Handgun License holder, I
- have no felony convictions (lifetime)
- have never been convicted of any drug offense
- have no mental defects or disabilities
- have passed a criminal history background check
How much do you know about your other customers?"

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Moving on:

I was BS'ing with some of my new 1/8 guys, a sniper among them. Another sniper I served with last time mentioned that he has API rounds for the SASR.

Sniper#2: "Man, I love those things. Even if you shoot past 3,000m with 'em, they Blow up when they hit."
Me: "API doesn't have C4. Besides, when the last time you took a shot past 3 klicks?"
Sniper #2: "Not three klicks, three thousand meters man."
Me and Sniper #1 :

[MaconCJ7]

Moving on:

I was BS'ing with some of my new 1/8 guys, a sniper among them. Another sniper I served with last time mentioned that he has API rounds for the SASR.

Sniper#2: "Man, I love those things. Even if you shoot past 3,000m with 'em, they Blow up when they hit."
Me: "API doesn't have C4. Besides, when the last time you took a shot past 3 klicks?"
Sniper #2: "Not three klicks, three thousand meters man."
Me and Sniper #1 :

So by calling him Sniper #2 can I safely assume you're covering up his actual job title? Lemme guess at what it is though. Man in charge of stick to stir burning shit. Or do they just give the title "sniper" to those that can make hits reliably, even though they have no formal sniper training?

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Sniper #2 is a school trained sniper, got his tooth and everything. As I tell people all the time, just because you shoot for a living, doesn't mean you are a gun-expert. Or in this case, ammo expert. Same3 reason I laugh every time I hear the ".50 call dismembers/kills/anally violates people even when it misses" myth followed by "my Army/SEAL/Marine sniper buddy told me about it. I laugh because I've spotted for a SASR before (ouch. Wear earpro.) and if I called a target beyond 1500m, the Chief Scout who was firing just yelled "next" because the windage and elevation changes were too much to make a good hit. Although on a less windy day, I did confirm a COM shot at 2050m-ish.

Regardless, the 'splodey bullets thing was bad, but the meters/kilometers thing killed me.

[MaconCJ7]

Regardless, the 'splodey bullets thing was bad, but the meters/kilometers thing killed me.

That is why I questioned his training. You don't have to be an expert to be good, but to be good for long, you have to know your equipment.

[Yaivenov]

I think there are about 50 parts in a 1911, and about 80 in a S&W mod. 19...

On topic...

"You just need a bobby pin to make a SKS full auto."

As a gunsmith who has actually looked at that stuff, that isn't very far off. Actually it's more like a piece of hacksaw blade ground down to a specific width (and preferable sans teeth) with a few specific cuts and a few specific bends in it placed in a specific location of the trigger group that prevents the trigger bar from disconnecting from the sear. This leaves the disconnector to function as an auto sear.

[JTNieman]

I think there are about 50 parts in a 1911, and about 80 in a S&W mod. 19...

On topic...

"You just need a bobby pin to make a SKS full auto."

As a gunsmith who has actually looked at that stuff, that isn't very far off. Actually it's more like a piece of hacksaw blade ground down to a specific width (and preferable sans teeth) with a few specific cuts and a few specific bends in it placed in a specific location of the trigger group that prevents the trigger bar from disconnecting from the sear. This leaves the disconnector to function as an auto sear.

Or you could just not clean out the cosmoline, and let it slam-fire away.

[prtp3warrior]

From the Max Brooks book "Zombie Survival Guide."
"Get up the stairs and destroy them."
After have built a few flights of wooden stairs, I can honestly say that it would be so damn hard to destroy a flight of stairs with an ax. You'd be there for days.

Then I envisioned some goof ball actually trying it.

I bet an M2 with it's Depleted Uranium, C4 explosive round could do it in seconds. Would that be the M-DUC4 round?

A Dewault Drill would be easier if they were screwed.

[Dogan]

From the Max Brooks book "Zombie Survival Guide."
"Get up the stairs and destroy them."
After have built a few flights of wooden stairs, I can honestly say that it would be so damn hard to destroy a flight of stairs with an ax. You'd be there for days.

Then I envisioned some goof ball actually trying it.

I bet an M2 with it's Depleted Uranium, C4 explosive round could do it in seconds. Would that be the M-DUC4 round?

A Dewault Drill would be easier if they were screwed.

Light dusting of Thermite on the stairs, Firesteel.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

[BigDaddyTX]

From the Max Brooks book "Zombie Survival Guide."
"Get up the stairs and destroy them."
After have built a few flights of wooden stairs, I can honestly say that it would be so damn hard to destroy a flight of stairs with an ax. You'd be there for days.

Then I envisioned some goof ball actually trying it.

I bet an M2 with it's Depleted Uranium, C4 explosive round could do it in seconds. Would that be the M-DUC4 round?

A Dewault Drill would be easier if they were screwed.

Light dusting of Thermite on the stairs, Firesteel.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

You mean Darwin would solve the problem.. I can't imagine being upstairs and burning the stairs behind you would be a good way to stay safe..

[Dogan]

From the Max Brooks book "Zombie Survival Guide."
"Get up the stairs and destroy them."
After have built a few flights of wooden stairs, I can honestly say that it would be so damn hard to destroy a flight of stairs with an ax. You'd be there for days.

Then I envisioned some goof ball actually trying it.

I bet an M2 with it's Depleted Uranium, C4 explosive round could do it in seconds. Would that be the M-DUC4 round?

Light dusting of Thermite on the stairs, Firesteel.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

You mean Darwin would solve the problem.. I can't imagine being upstairs and burning the stairs behind you would be a good way to stay safe..

Hell no. But it would destory the stairs the fastest.

[KnightoftheRoc]

Light dusting of Thermite on the stairs, Firesteel.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

You mean Darwin would solve the problem.. I can't imagine being upstairs and burning the stairs behind you would be a good way to stay safe..

Hell no. But it would destory the stairs the fastest.

Oh, well, OK then...

Heard second hand tonight when I came into work, so it's not a direct quote, but: "There's only four inches of oil left in the tank- I'm shutting off the boilers and water heater." from our "maintenance man". Still not sure what the logic to this was, but it's going below freezing tonight here...so yeah, let's turn the heat OFF until the oil delivery gets here.

I could see turning it off when the oil arrives, for an hour or so, till the tank settles, but ALL NIGHT? smh...

[lokifz1]

I was reminded of this one today. When I was twenty I sat on a civil jury.

There was one spot left to fill on the jury and they asked the guy up if was a native Oklahoman, to which he responds "no sir, I ain't an Indian".

So the judge explains to him while everyone is laughing that they wanted to know if he was born in Oklahoma, and he is quick to point out "sir iam from Texas, and I wasn't an Indian there either".

[Zombie Joey]

My job involves dealing with people who have some sort of mental illness.

Once I was asked, by a rather high functioning individual, if I thought a taxi would pick up her son and carry him across town, alone, to basketball practice. She was unable to do this because of her fibromyalgia.

The son was five at the time.

"So how will he get back?"

"A taxi would have to pick him up." In a tone of voice that screamed: DUH!!!

It took me awhile to process that she actually wanted to send her son off alone to the other side of town so she could nap and recover from her hard day of sitting on her ass.

[NonExistence]

Top ten modern assault rifles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWc3GAe0 ... re=related

Watch video, facepalm. Read comments, facepalm repeatedly.


"I dont know much about guns. Honestly I just know what I've seen from video games. I do know the M16 during the Vietnam era had some issues. And I believe the AK 47 should be number 1." First of many stupid comments

[jamoni]

Top ten modern assault rifles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWc3GAe0 ... re=related

Watch video, facepalm. Read comments, facepalm repeatedly.


"I dont know much about guns. Honestly I just know what I've seen from video games. I do know the M16 during the Vietnam era had some issues. And I believe the AK 47 should be number 1." First of many stupid comments

Ouch. On the other hand, now I know that as long as I'm within 200 meters of the shooter, the G36 is not effective on me! Enojy!

[squinty]

I was reminded of this one today. When I was twenty I sat on a civil jury.

There was one spot left to fill on the jury and they asked the guy up if was a native Oklahoman, to which he responds "no sir, I ain't an Indian".

So the judge explains to him while everyone is laughing that they wanted to know if he was born in Oklahoma, and he is quick to point out "sir iam from Texas, and I wasn't an Indian there either".

That's not DFTIEH. That's brilliant!

[NonExistence]

Top ten modern assault rifles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWc3GAe0 ... re=related

Watch video, facepalm. Read comments, facepalm repeatedly.


"I dont know much about guns. Honestly I just know what I've seen from video games. I do know the M16 during the Vietnam era had some issues. And I believe the AK 47 should be number 1." First of many stupid comments

Ouch. On the other hand, now I know that as long as I'm within 200 meters of the shooter, the G36 is not effective on me! Enojy!

Notice that AK's have adjustable range

[hutchb25]

Top ten modern assault rifles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWc3GAe0 ... re=related

*Gandalf picture, every orc in the room, etc.*

"I just had to put this in here."

Oh, you sly old dog, you.

[rjm]

I was at the feed store the other day picking up some stuff for our animals. One of the old-timers helping to load my truck noticed some old shell casings in the bed and struck up a conversation. When I told him that the majority of the stuff was cheap-o russian ammo he proceeded to "school" me about the importance of having a chrome lined barrel and that if I shot steel cased ammo in a rifle that didn't have a chromed lined barrel, I would ruin the rifle.

[jamoni]

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bar/2845851107.html

Hi. I'm looking to barter my two katanas.

Both retail for about $875-$1,000 a piece.

These are Paul Chen, handmade, battle-ready, razor sharp, full tang katanas. The REAL DEAL. These are made to be USED, not be displayed. They are battle-ready.

I'm looking to sell or barter for home protection devices, AR-15, or similar. Any kind of protection. Please e-mail me if interested.

Somebody is growing up.