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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby KJ4VOV » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:02 am

angelofwar wrote:Thanks KJ...I'll have to give up my other hobbies before I pick up some of those...but, I'm all about buying the right tool for the job.

On a side note, the local Shack had this bad-boy on sale for $70 (Regular $100)...so...yeah, I grabbed it.

This things pretty huge for a "radio" (shown with my E1B for size comparison). They didn't have any decent Radio (CB, Scanners, etc.), so...I grabbed this. Gonna do some reading and try to see what kind of stuff I can pick up on it...


It's not a bad radio for that price, but SSB reception will be critical if you want to check the phone portions of the amateur bands (there is some AM activity on the bands, but not that much), and I'd like it better if you could power it directly from 12vdc (the DC input is 9vdc) but all in all a good find for $70
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby angelofwar » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:51 pm

Just picked up a pair of Motorola MH230R's. I like the built in weather radio, multiple power options, and compact, but solid build. Thanks for all the info...this will tide me over until my next big radio purchase...probably something that can pick up at least SSB transmissions.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby 6UNF1GHTER » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:30 pm

I've got an old Icom R1 HT (scanner) receiver that has a pretty super wide band, 100 kHz to 1300 mHz IIRC. I've been able to hear some CB on it, MIL airbands, local PD that hasn't switched over to trunked, NOAA weather.. etc. etc.

If you are just getting something to listen with, some older radios are sweet deals... and having the ability to monitor some of those areas mentioned above just gives ya more intel to monitor, IMHO.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby aa1pr » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:46 pm

looks like a bunch of debates going on so I did not read all the posts until this spot

however for a mobile receiver that will do all of the above & more:
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/ ... fault.aspx

the only other or next problem is the antenna that is required for such, you can improvise or build your own...
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby angelofwar » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:23 pm

Hey,

Looking for a decent scanner that'll pick up just about everything. I have these three in mind right now:

Icom M412
Icom IC-R5
Icom IC-R6
Uniden Bear Cat

Looking for around $200 unit.

Any other recommendations? Also looking for a good GMRS/FRS Base Staion doo-hickey.

Thoughts? Opinions? Thanks!
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby KJ4VOV » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:34 pm

angelofwar wrote:Hey,

Looking for a decent scanner that'll pick up just about everything. I have these three in mind right now:

Icom M412
Icom IC-R5
Icom IC-R6
Uniden Bear Cat

Looking for around $200 unit.

Any other recommendations? Also looking for a good GMRS/FRS Base Staion doo-hickey.

Thoughts? Opinions? Thanks!


There's not really any such thing as an FRS "base station" due to the FCC Part 95 requirement for FRS that the antenna must be permanently attached directly to the radio transmitter. The closest you'll find is a unit Radio Shack used to sell for cars that had a mag mount antenna with the transmitter built into the base of the mount and the cable leading to the mount had a 12v plug for the cigarette lighter. The microphone came off the cigarette lighter plug and contained all the controls, the display and the speaker. It wasn't a bad unit (I have one out in my truck in fact) but the cords were a bit short.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby 6UNF1GHTER » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:05 pm

angelofwar wrote:Hey,

Looking for a decent scanner that'll pick up just about everything. I have these three in mind right now:

Icom M412
Icom IC-R5
Icom IC-R6
Uniden Bear Cat

Looking for around $200 unit.



Well, out of those:
Icom M412 is a Marine Transceiver, and not a scanner from what I can tell. So scratch that off the list.

Uniden Bearcat It looks like there are a bunch of different models on that name, so you'd have to narrow it down a bit. I did have an older Uniden base/mobile years ago, and while I don't remember the model number, I never had any issues with it. Actually, I kick myself in the ass now for ever selling it.

Icom IC-R5 / IC-R6 From searching, it looks like you could manage to find the R5 or R6 used in that price-range.
I don't really have much input on the Icom radios outside of the R1 that I have, and being it's the first Icom that I've ever owned... I'd suspect that the R5 and R6 are probably the same as far as build quality, which is very good.

Angelofwar,
I'd looked at the R2, R5 and R6 when I was searching for a scanner last year. I came across some online reviews of the older R1 and did some reading up on it, as I liked the fact that it had an actual numerical keypad to enter freqs. That was an important point for me, since I like having the ability to go directly to a freq. without flipping through pages of menus. It's just easier for me to keep a log of the good ones I run across from time to time. That might not matter to you at all, but it's something to keep in mind.

Hope that helps ya a bit.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby nacho » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:10 pm

VHF is a powerful band, This is why you see a lot of emergency communications, and PS that has to be able to operate with minimal infrastructure use it.

Recently I was on a hunting trip and built a simple VHF tactical repeater out of some old Bendix King portables, a 7AH SLA, and a 5 watt solar panel from Harbor Freight. I used two J-Poles for antennas. I placed the repeater on a hill about 300 ft above the 1800 acre ranch we were hunting on. Even with the repeater only putting out two watts we could hear it about three miles away in town, over several hills. I think all in all the whole package put me back $150 to build, with the battery, solar panel and coax being the most expensive components.

Also a simple ham portable like the FT-60 can receive from 100-900MHz AM/FM. It won't monitor CB or other low band VHF, and will only transmit on the 2M and 70CM ham bands, but you will be able to listen to any conventional analog public safety in that range.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby coyotebc » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:22 am

Not sure if this helps you at all.
Things Every CB'er Should Know
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Copyright © 1996 Firestik® Antenna Company

1. Every industry has its bottom dwellers. We cannot protect you from them. Consumers who make decisions based strictly on price, or on what someone says instead of what they can do, will often fall prey to the bottom dwellers.


2. Beware of information from "experts" (real or self-proclaimed). There is antenna theory and there is antenna reality. We have yet to see a vehicle that simulates a lab. While theory is a good starting place...experience is invaluable when it comes to real problems. The knowledge gained from the best book on theory will not necessarily produce the best antenna design.


3. Some "experts" may "claim" 5/8 wave mobile antennas are not possible because they would need to be 23 feet high. They are wrong! Physical length and ground wave performance are not the same. If you ever hear someone make that claim, ask them how a handheld CB can have a 1/4 wave antenna 8 inches long and mobile 1/4 wave antennas can be anywhere from 12-60 inches long in spite of the fact that a physical 1/4 wave is 108 inches.


4 .Never key up or attempt to operate your CB without a working antenna or "dummy load" (non-radiating antenna simulating device) connected to the radios antenna jack, unless you have extra money to buy another radio, or know a good repairman.


5. All mobile and base transmitting antennas need counter-poise, more commonly called ground plane. The antenna is the reactive unit, the ground plane is the reflective unit. Neither is more important than the other. In mobile installations with standard antenna systems, the vehicle metal (body, frame, etc.) acts as the ground plane. In "no-ground-plane" systems, the coax shield is used for counterpoise.


6. Most, but not all, manufacturers pre-tune their mobile antennas on a test bench. To protect your radio's circuitry and achieve optimum performance, mobile transmitting antennas (CB, cell phone, amateur, etc.) need to be tuned on the vehicle.


7. Before transmitting, you should check your antenna system for shorts or opens. If you have continuity between the center pin of the connector and the outer threaded housing, you may have a short. Don't transmit! If you do not find continuity between the center pin of the coax and the antenna base, you have an open. Fix it. (See "Testing Continuity") Exceptions: Some base loaded antennas use a center tap design and there will be continuity from ground to center conductor. Also, Firestik "No Ground Plane" antenna kits will have coaxial center pin to ground continuity.


8. SWR that pegs the needle on all channels almost always indicates a short in your antenna system. Do not attempt to tune the antenna until the short is fixed. Operating with high SWR will probably damage your CB's internal circuits.


9. Make sure that the antenna you are using is the right antenna for your application. Don't use a TV antenna or an AM/FM antenna for your CB. Do not operate your CB without an antenna or dummy load.


10. Transmitting antennas are sensitive to objects in their "near field of radiation." Tune your antennas in an open area. Never tune inside or next to a building, near or under trees, near or under power lines, and never with a person holding or standing next to the antenna. Try to simulate normal operating conditions.


11. If you mount two or more antennas close to each other, you will alter the transmission patterns of each one. The affect may be either positive or negative. We recommend that a minimum of 12" exist between your CB antenna and other types of antennas.


12. Your radio cannot tell one component from another. As far as the radio is concerned, the coax, stud mount, mounting bracket, antenna and vehicle is ONE unit. Don't be too quick to fault your antenna until you are sure that all of the other components have been given equal consideration.


13. Of all antennas returned to Firestik for warranty service, 75% show no signs of being tuned to the vehicle. All antennas should be checked prior to use. Most will require some adjustment. Less than 3% of all returned antennas have actual performance causing problems. Of those, half of the problems are user or installer created. High SWR and other performance problems are 20 times more likely to be caused by bad coax, bad connections, shorted mounts, poor installation location or faulty test meters.


14. In almost every instance, once you get the same SWR reading on channels 1 and 40, further antenna tuning will not improve the readings. If the SWR is still over 2:1, you have other problems to conquer. Exception: There are rare occasions when the ground plane is so small or large that the system is way out of phase (especially with high-performance antennas). If you have high SWR on all channels and have confirmed that you have no opens or shorts in the feedline, try making a small tuning adjustment in the antenna. There are times when the SWR will drop equally across all channels under unusual ground plane conditions. If you find this to be the case, carefully adjust the antenna.


15. SWR that is high on all channels (over 2:1 but not pegging the needle) after the antenna has been tuned usually indicates insufficient ground plane, ungrounded antenna mount or that a coax cable problem exists.


16. The doors, mirrors, spare tire racks, luggage racks, etc. on many vehicles are insulated from a good ground with nylon or rubber bushings. This also stands true for fiberglass vehicles. Make sure that your antenna mount is grounded, even if it entails running a ground wire to the vehicle chassis. Bad hard ground at the mount generally equates to less than optimum performance. Exception: No ground plane antenna kits do not require a grounded mount.


17. If you are hearing whining noises from your radio while your vehicle is running, it is probably due to "dirty power" being supplied to the radio. Under dash power may be more convenient, but the "cleanest" power will be found by running the radio's power leads straight to the battery.


18. You can never buy coax cable that is too good for your system. Never compromise quality for cost when purchasing coax. Your best bet is to stick with coax that has a stranded center conductor and 90% or higher shielding.


19. Most manufacturers of high performance antennas recommend a specific length of coax cable. If your antenna manufacturer suggests a specific length, give priority to that recommendation.


20. If your ground plane is good, your mount grounded and, your antenna favorably located, coax length rarely becomes an issue. But, if one or more mismatches occur, you may find high SWR. This can often be corrected by using 18 feet lengths of high quality coax.


21. Excess coax between your radio and antenna mount should never be wound into a circular coil of less than 12" in diameter. Doing so can cause system problems. Your best option for handling excess coax is to serpentine the cable into a 12 to 18 inch yarn-like skein. Secure the skein in the center with a wire tie and tuck it away.


22. Single antenna installations require coax with approximately 50 ohm's of resistance (RG-58/U, RG-58 A/U or RG-8X). Dual antenna installations require the use of 72 ohm cable (RG-59/U or RG-59 A/U).


23. Coaxial cables with foam (polyfoam) center conductor insulation should be your last choice for use on mobile (vehicle) installations. Even though it will work initially, it has limited life and does not stand up to the conditions encountered in the mobile environment. Choose coax with polyvinyl insulation when doing mobile installs.


24. Coax cables should never be cut and spliced together like common electrical wire. Line losses will occur.


25. Coaxial cable with holes in the outer insulation, severe bends, or door, trunk or hood caused pinches will cause performance problems. Treat your coax with care.


26. If you live in an area where rain and/or sleet is common, wipe your antenna down with a rag that has been coated with WD-40, Armor-All, Pledge, light oil, etc. This trick prevents ice build up that can overload and cause your antenna to break. In an emergency use butter, cooking oil or anything else that will repel water.


27. When tuning your antenna(s), make sure that you do so with the vehicle doors, hood and trunk closed. If left open, they can cause inaccurate SWR readings. Try to simulate actual operating conditions.


28. Mobile antennas, for best performance, should have no less than 60% of their overall length above the vehicles roof line. For co-phased antennas to perform optimally, the space between the top 60% of the two antennas needs to be unobstructed.


29. Remember, all transmitting antennas need ground plane (counterpoise). Base antennas, much like "no ground plane" antennas, build it in. Do not use mobile antennas for base station applications unless you know how to build your own ground plane.


30. If you are installing a single antenna on one side or the other of your vehicle, best on-the-road performance will be realized if the antenna is on the passenger side of the vehicle (Passenger cars and light trucks) Large trucks or vehicles pulling large trailers should put the antenna on the drivers side to avoid the signal from being blocked by the trailer and to keep from hitting road side trees.


31. Co-phased (dual) antenna installations create a radiation pattern that favors communication directly in front and back of the vehicle. This is why co-phase systems are popular with people who do a lot of highway driving. Co-phase antennas must be center or top loaded. Top loaded antennas are the best.


32. Some people believe that co-phased antennas must be separated by a minimum of nine (9) feet. We have successfully used co-phase antenna systems with spacing as little as four (4) feet. Space alters the pattern and not always negatively. Each vehicle will be different.


33. Co-phase antennas can improve performance on vehicles that lack good ground plane characteristics (fiberglass motorhomes, trucks, etc.). Instead of using available metal to reflect the radiated energy, the antennas use each others field.


34. When tuning co-phased antennas (dual), it is best to adjust both antennas an equal amount to maintain equality in their individual resonant frequency.


35. On a co-phase system, if you try to tune each antenna independently using RG-58 type coax and then connect them to the co-phasing harness, you will almost always find that they will appear electrically short as a set. We recommend that you first assemble the entire system. Take all measurements and make all adjustments with both antennas in place.


36. If you are experiencing SWR that is high across the entire band and have eliminated shorts, opens, groundless mounts and coax as potential problems, suspect lack of ground plane. Try adding a spring or quick disconnect to the antenna base. In some cases, the repositioning of the antenna relevant to available ground plane will solve the problem.


37. One of the greatest benefits of the FS series (patented tunable tip) antenna is noted when there is lack of available ground plane. If the tuning screw reaches its "maximum out" position before satisfactory SWR is realized, a common 1/4-20 threaded bolt or screw of a longer length can be used to replace the supplied tuning screw. If the vinyl cap is too short to remain in place, the user can disregard it or clip a hole in the top for the longer screw to pass through.


38. In rare instances, like antennas mounted in the middle of a metal van roof, excess ground plane can cause a problem. This usually shows up as high SWR across the band. In these cases, a tunable tip antenna may not be the best choice. The reason being, the antenna is too long and the tunable tip cannot adjust down far enough (see line 40). If you suspect this, an antenna that wire can be removed from will usually fit the bill (i.e. KW or RP series).


39. There may be situations when a tunable tip will bottom out before optimum tuning is achieved. If this happens, try removing the knurled jam nut and finger tighten the tuning screw against the o-ring. If still too long, remove the tuning screw altogether. If total removal causes the antenna to go short, cut the tuning screw in half and re-insert it into the tuning extender and re-test. The following items on the FS Series "tunable tip" antennas, when removed, will have an effect on SWR (in order from least effect to most effect). O-ring, jam nut, tuning screw mass (cutting off length), vinyl cap, tuning screw complete.


40. The vinyl cap on any "tunable tip" Firestik antennas is optional. However, your antenna needs to be tuned as it will be used . . . with or without the tip.


41. Magnetic mounts should be used in temporary situations only. If you leave them in the same spot for a long period, the paint will not age like that of the uncovered areas and/or moisture will be trapped between the mount and vehicle causing rust or discoloration. Periodically lift the magnet and gently clean off the underside of the magnet and the vehicle surface.


42. It is a bad idea to use magnetic mounts and amplifiers together. Magnetic mounts rely on capacitance grounding. This situation can literally cause the paint under the mount to bubble or discolor due to excessive heat build up.


43. On wire-wound antennas that require wire removal for tuning purposes, best overall performance will be achieved by keeping the loose end of the wire pressed down tightly against the wire coil. If you use power amplification on top loaded antennas and do not process the end of the wire load so it can dissipate its heat into other adjacent coils, you can melt the tip of the antenna.


44. Generally speaking, center loaded antennas perform better than base loaded antennas, and top loaded antennas perform better than all. For any given antenna design (base, center or top loaded), the taller the antenna the better. With length comes a wider bandwidth (lower SWR over more channels), more power handling capability and overall performance increases.


45. When ultimate mobile performance is desired, function should be given precedence over mounting location convenience and appearance.


46. Don't confuse SWR with overall performance. You should seek SWR of 2:1 or lower on channel 1 and 40, but keep in mind that best performance may not be found at the lowest SWR readings. For the most part, if you get your SWR below 2:1, on both ends of the band, don't be overly concerned about using meter tricking procedures that bleed off energy.


47. The SWR meters built into CB radios are okay for general readings, but are rarely sensitive and/or accurate enough for fine tuning of antennas. Use them mostly to indicate serious high SWR problems only.


48. Firestik has tested literally hundreds of SWR meters. A large percentage of these have shown to be off by 0.3 to 0.7 when compared to a piece of certified equipment. There is no standard among production meters. However, unless a unit is defective, most will indicate the most serious problems that you might encounter


49. Aside from cost, the type of wire used in or on antennas (copper, silver, aluminum, gold, tinned, etc.) has negligible effect on antenna performance. The antenna must be designed to resonate with the wire type and gauge chosen by the designer. However, larger wire gauges will normally increase the bandwidth and heat dissipation abilities of the antenna.


50. Copper is 55% better than aluminum, 27% better than gold and 578% better than tin insofar as conductivity is concerned. Silver will conduct AC/DC current less than 2.5% more efficiently than copper, but the cost to performance is generally unjustified and any gain, insofar as RF transmission is concerned, is negligible.


51. If devices other than an SWR meter are going to be used between the CB radio and antenna, always tune the antenna system first without that device in line. If SWR is high with the other device in line, you will know where the problem is.


52. In "no ground plane" systems, it is best to choose a system that terminates the coaxial ground at the radio end of the cable. These systems are far less reactive to cable routing errors and will almost always outperform systems that are terminated at the antenna base or antenna end of the coax.


53. Cables and antennas from standard & no-ground plane kits are not interchangeable. The "No Ground Plane" antennas from Firestik have a yellow band near the base.


54. Wire wound antennas with a plastic outer coating will greatly reduce audible RF static when compared to metal whip antennas.


55. If you leave your antenna on your vehicle permanently, remove the rubber o-ring that is found on the threaded base of some antennas. Tighten permanent antennas with a wrench. Add a lock washer if you want.


56. If you use mirror mounts and often find yourself in areas with overhead obstructions, tighten the bolts just enough to keep the antenna vertical at highway speeds. If the antenna contacts something overhead, the mount will rotate on the mirror arm and protect your antenna.


57. If you use long antennas and find that they bend too far back at highway speeds, tilt them forward if possible. When under a wind load, they will end up in a relatively vertical position.


58. On antennas that are topped off with a vinyl tip, make sure that you take your SWR measurements with the tip in place. If you tune your antenna with the tip off and then reinstall the tip, your SWR will change.


59. Without advocating the use of power amplifiers or unauthorized channels, take note that the Firestik II tunable tip antennas have a fairly large metal tip that broadens the bandwidth and dissipates a considerable amount of heat.


60. It is illegal to use power amplifiers with CB radios. It is illegal to "tweak" the radios internal circuits to increase output power. The transmitter power of a legal, FCC certified CB radio is 4 watts AM.


61. If having one antenna for CB/AM/FM is appealing, use a CB antenna and a splitter that allows it to be connected to your AM/FM radio. Devices that let you use your AM/FM antenna for CB use will leave you disappointed.


62. On a budget? Buy a cheap radio and a good antenna. Aside from added bells and whistles, all CB's are FCC regulated to transmit no more than 4 watts of power. A good antenna on an inexpensive radio will almost always outperform a bad antenna on an expensive radio.


63. Beware of the wire wound mobile antennas mentioned in ads that claim them to be "full-wave" or "wave and a half". At best, you are being deceived by the misleading association of wire length to actual performance characteristics. Wire length, for all intents and purposes, is irrelevant. With "very" few exceptions, antennas must function as a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave to be useful on mobile installations. For example, Firestik and Firestik II antennas between 2 foot and 5 foot have a radiation pattern similar to a 5/8 wave reference antenna. However, wire lengths range from 20 feet to 32 feet (0.6 to 0.9 of a full wave length). If wire length was relevant, each antenna would need 22.5 feet of wire.





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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby angelofwar » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:21 am

The FRS base station should have been a no-brainer on my part K4JVOV. I saw some radios with GMRS capability, and usually tie the two together. I'm looking at the Eton Voice-link as a camping/temp GMRS solution to go with my new motorolas. Thanks again for all the help!

6UNF1GHTER wrote:
angelofwar wrote:Hey,

Looking for a decent scanner that'll pick up just about everything. I have these three in mind right now:

Icom M412
Icom IC-R5
Icom IC-R6
Uniden Bear Cat

Looking for around $200 unit.



Well, out of those:
Icom M412 is a Marine Transceiver, and not a scanner from what I can tell. So scratch that off the list.

Uniden Bearcat It looks like there are a bunch of different models on that name, so you'd have to narrow it down a bit. I did have an older Uniden base/mobile years ago, and while I don't remember the model number, I never had any issues with it. Actually, I kick myself in the ass now for ever selling it.

Icom IC-R5 / IC-R6 From searching, it looks like you could manage to find the R5 or R6 used in that price-range.
I don't really have much input on the Icom radios outside of the R1 that I have, and being it's the first Icom that I've ever owned... I'd suspect that the R5 and R6 are probably the same as far as build quality, which is very good.

Angelofwar,
I'd looked at the R2, R5 and R6 when I was searching for a scanner last year. I came across some online reviews of the older R1 and did some reading up on it, as I liked the fact that it had an actual numerical keypad to enter freqs. That was an important point for me, since I like having the ability to go directly to a freq. without flipping through pages of menus. It's just easier for me to keep a log of the good ones I run across from time to time. That might not matter to you at all, but it's something to keep in mind.

Hope that helps ya a bit.
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Thanks for the reply! The fact that you regret getting rid of the bearcat tells me that is was a decent unit...and enjoyable to use. I'll start pokin' around my local pawn shops and see if I can find a decent unit. And thanks for confirming the Icoms to be decent units (well built). When it comes to my disaster comm, I can't afford to buy cheap.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby angelofwar » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:24 am

nacho wrote:VHF is a powerful band, This is why you see a lot of emergency communications, and PS that has to be able to operate with minimal infrastructure use it.

Recently I was on a hunting trip and built a simple VHF tactical repeater out of some old Bendix King portables, a 7AH SLA, and a 5 watt solar panel from Harbor Freight. I used two J-Poles for antennas. I placed the repeater on a hill about 300 ft above the 1800 acre ranch we were hunting on. Even with the repeater only putting out two watts we could hear it about three miles away in town, over several hills. I think all in all the whole package put me back $150 to build, with the battery, solar panel and coax being the most expensive components.

Also a simple ham portable like the FT-60 can receive from 100-900MHz AM/FM. It won't monitor CB or other low band VHF, and will only transmit on the 2M and 70CM ham bands, but you will be able to listen to any conventional analog public safety in that range.


I'd like to learn enoguh enventually to build my own...I have a little bit of electronics experience, and a good understanding of "physics"...it's just digging through all the technical jargon. Going to check out the FT-60 right now. Thanks!
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby 6UNF1GHTER » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:43 pm

angelofwar wrote:Thanks for the reply! The fact that you regret getting rid of the bearcat tells me that is was a decent unit...and enjoyable to use. I'll start pokin' around my local pawn shops and see if I can find a decent unit. And thanks for confirming the Icoms to be decent units (well built). When it comes to my disaster comm, I can't afford to buy cheap.


No worries, glad to share.
The Bearcat was a great unit, I'll admit... I still don't remember the model # of it but I'll try to find out what it was.
Now, the Icom... albeit older and a not as loaded in features it is a very nice radio, and also hand-held. The bearcat I had permanently mounted in my truck, so it had seen limited use. That was one of the reasons why I had gotten rid of it, well... that, and tough times came around.

I still really like the idea of a base mobile, sure it was a step back for me.. but honestly, what good is a radio gonna do if you don't have it on ya?
That said, I'd never get rid of the R1... ever. Having a small receiver that can do the things I need it to, is form over feature.
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Re: Receiving CB Transmissions? Gear Tips? Tricks?

Postby angelofwar » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:50 pm

Grabbed one of these old-school made in Japan GE "Emergency CB's" at a pawn shop for $20. This will make a great base camp CB, if some-one decides to take off in the car for a few minutes, I'll still be able to contact them.

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Also grabbed a uniden BC72XLT at the same pawn shop for $60. Not the best for my area, since the stuff in my city is trunked, but I have been picking up a non-trunked "official" channel. Couldn't find who was using it, but I'm guessing the local airport, since it's in the Aircraft range (134.975)??? I've been listening to 134.975.

Anyways, just thought I'd post an update. I'm a little more secure about my ZPAW comm needs now.
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Postby KJ4VOV » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:08 pm

angelofwar wrote:Grabbed one of these old-school made in Japan GE "Emergency CB's" at a pawn shop for $20. This will make a great base camp CB, if some-one decides to take off in the car for a few minutes, I'll still be able to contact them.

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Also grabbed a uniden BC72XLT at the same pawn shop for $60. Not the best for my area, since the stuff in my city is trunked, but I have been picking up a non-trunked "official" channel. Couldn't find who was using it, but I'm guessing the local airport, since it's in the Aircraft range (134.975)??? I've been listening to 134.975.

Anyways, just thought I'd post an update. I'm a little more secure about my ZPAW comm needs now.


134.975 would be Heathrow Approach, Denver Center, Montreal Center, or Oakland Center. Which one you're hearing depends on your location, and there could be a lot of others.

Also, on using that CB for your base, don't forget you'll need a ground plane with that mag mount. If you don't have a vehicle at the base to put it on you can make do with anything else that's large and steel, such as a fridge, metal shed, etc. Even a cookie sheet will work in a pinch, but not very well.
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Postby angelofwar » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:37 pm

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angelofwar wrote:Grabbed one of these old-school made in Japan GE "Emergency CB's" at a pawn shop for $20. This will make a great base camp CB, if some-one decides to take off in the car for a few minutes, I'll still be able to contact them.

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Also grabbed a uniden BC72XLT at the same pawn shop for $60. Not the best for my area, since the stuff in my city is trunked, but I have been picking up a non-trunked "official" channel. Couldn't find who was using it, but I'm guessing the local airport, since it's in the Aircraft range (134.975)??? I've been listening to 134.975.

Anyways, just thought I'd post an update. I'm a little more secure about my ZPAW comm needs now.


134.975 would be Heathrow Approach, Denver Center, Montreal Center, or Oakland Center. Which one you're hearing depends on your location, and there could be a lot of others.

Also, on using that CB for your base, don't forget you'll need a ground plane with that mag mount. If you don't have a vehicle at the base to put it on you can make do with anything else that's large and steel, such as a fridge, metal shed, etc. Even a cookie sheet will work in a pinch, but not very well.


Thanks as always KV4! As an added bonus (although it may sound obvious to you radio guys) the scanner will pick up my FRS/GMRS transmissions as well as CB tx's. I have both my "vehicle" CB (my Cobra) and this unit set-up tp be ran off wall (120v) or car battery (12v) so I can use both of them at home and during a power outage.

As for the tx's I keep getting from 134.975, they could be from the local Airforce Base where I work (Shaw AFB, Sumter, SC), but I didn't see the signal listed at Radio Reference...It'll be interesting to take this thing to work during exercise when every one's using there LMR's.

What I really like about the Uniden is: It runs off two AA's; I have plenty of Eneloops and a solar charger; The Uniden can charge the batteries while they're in it! So, win-win for this simple, and moderately effective unit.
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Postby KJ4VOV » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:24 pm

angelofwar wrote:Thanks as always KV4! As an added bonus (although it may sound obvious to you radio guys) the scanner will pick up my FRS/GMRS transmissions as well as CB tx's. I have both my "vehicle" CB (my Cobra) and this unit set-up tp be ran off wall (120v) or car battery (12v) so I can use both of them at home and during a power outage.

As for the tx's I keep getting from 134.975, they could be from the local Airforce Base where I work (Shaw AFB, Sumter, SC), but I didn't see the signal listed at Radio Reference...It'll be interesting to take this thing to work during exercise when every one's using there LMR's.

What I really like about the Uniden is: It runs off two AA's; I have plenty of Eneloops and a solar charger; The Uniden can charge the batteries while they're in it! So, win-win for this simple, and moderately effective unit.


I checked airport info for your immediate area and I'm not seeing that freq listed as being in use, but that doesn't really mean anything. I was hoping to be able to identify who was using it for you. :)
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Postby angelofwar » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:29 am

Just an update...I got a Radio Shack (uniden re-brand) Pro-160...I can now pick up all the "good stuff" in the local area, and feel 100 times more prepared (comm.-wise) than when I first posted this. I also have two Midland HH CB's that can operate off AA's, meaning I can keep them functioning in a ZPAW with my Solar RC set-up. Thanks for all the info so far all!

Thanks for the info on the ground plane as well...would a thin steel plate attached to the lid of my Pelican case work in a pinch??? Is there a ratio formula for determining how big a ground plane should be???
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angelofwar wrote:Just an update...I got a Radio Shack (uniden re-brand) Pro-160...I can now pick up all the "good stuff" in the local area, and feel 100 times more prepared (comm.-wise) than when I first posted this. I also have two Midland HH CB's that can operate off AA's, meaning I can keep them functioning in a ZPAW with my Solar RC set-up. Thanks for all the info so far all!

Thanks for the info on the ground plane as well...would a thin steel plate attached to the lid of my Pelican case work in a pinch??? Is there a ratio formula for determining how big a ground plane should be???


Like most things, bigger is better. A cookie sheet would work.
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