How would you build your future home to withstand anything?

[Ad'lan]

Over all, a very old world, rustic feel. Must think of ways to make it reflect my Celtic heritage more than historical Spanish and Italian influences

Have you come across Brochs?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broch

[bark-eater]

A tropical vacation home featured in Architectural Digest stuck with me as an excelent way to have a bunker with a view. The basic premise was to have a vacation palapa in the tropics with a huge parabolic thatched roof over the general living area, and a concrete hurricane proof structure in the middle that housed all the systems and had had enough room and facility's to live in comfortably if everything else got wiped out. With all the basics still in place, the rest of the structure can be replaced when conditions allow.

[KnightoftheRoc]

I now want to draw up my fantasy house...

Me, too, but it's been done already...

OFF topic, I am saddened that no one recognized this iconic home- Mike Brady is a sad panda, I'm sure.

ON topic- (and a bit self-serving plug) I'm working with someone on a website devoted to the research of hydrogen as a fuel. Where's the easiest place to find hydrogen?- water. It IS possible to use water as a fuel- in fact, it burns hotter than gasoline does. We are developing a method for creating this hydrogen fuel from water in a way that can provide an entire home with all it's electrical needs, as well as it's fuel needs for cooking and heating. The same process, with slight modifications, can be used to fuel a vehicle. From water.

Imagine, if you will, being able to go completely off the power grid, and, if you remain connected to it, selling your excess power to the electric company, generating an income, instead of them sending you a bill. Or, for what you spend a year in gasoline, converting your car or truck, and spending pennies for a hundred gallons of fuel, instead of 4 dollars for ONE gallon. With a higher MPG and a lower carbon emissions footprint, to boot!

This is completely possible- in fact, it's already been done by a couple people. The website, when it goes live, will have videos of our experiments, a free newsletter each month, and I'm hoping to have a forums section as well. Signing up is free.

Water is composed of two elements, Hydrogen (a highly energetic gas), and Oxygen (required for any fuel to support combustion). Once water has been separated into these two elements as gases, they bubble up out of the water, and form a combined gas of hydrogen and oxygen, known as HOH (representing the ratio of Hydrogen to Oxygen making up the gas), which burns hot enough to cut steel if run through a torch. And, there's no safer, more environmentally safe exhaust fumes than you get from this- it's water vapor!

It is my intention to not only investigate the possible uses of this system, but to also put my money where my mouth is, and incorporate them into both my home and car. If it CAN be done, and I'm confident that it can be, I'm going to DO it. Once I have a working system, safe, and able to be duplicated, I plan on making the information available so others can do the same thing!

We all talk about 'going off the grid', sustainability, and self sufficiency- can you imagine a better way to meet all those goals, and do it without having to give up the modern conveniences we've all become accustomed to having?

I apologize if this comes off as spam, or advertising- it's not meant to be, but this is something I've been interested in since the fourth grade- nearly 40 years ago. So, I tend to get a little excited on the subject.

[KentsOkay]

Ad'lan, you are amazing and that is revolutionizing "The Tower"

Knight, I'll bite. Playboy Mansion?

As for hydrogen, it breaks down like this;

Electricity is what splits water back into hydrogen and oxygen.

Combustion between hydrogen and oxygen makes water again, as well as heat. Or you can slap it into a fuel cell and make electricity. Point of failure is it takes electricity to make electricity using that method.

SO lets get our electricity from another source, a wind turbine perhaps. Better idea, lets just use that directly instead of hydrogen.

Hydrogen power via fuel cell/electricity is only a good idea because it is more energy dense than batteries, I think.

Hydrogen as fuel for combustion based systems? Yeah, it works in Internal COmbustion Engines, I see a place for it there. Maybe even room heating, but not hydrogen combustion heat>boiler>steam turbine>mechanical movement/electricity

Wait... a steam powered car that burns hydrogen? Any steampunkers reading this will probably jizz in their pants

Long story short? We want/need better batteries/methods of saving and storing electrical energy.

[KnightoftheRoc]

Ad'lan, you are amazing and that is revolutionizing "The Tower"

Knight, I'll bite. Playboy Mansion?

As for hydrogen, it breaks down like this;

Electricity is what splits water back into hydrogen and oxygen.Correct

Combustion between hydrogen and oxygen makes water again, as well as heat. Or you can slap it into a fuel cell and make electricity. Point of failure is it takes electricity to make electricity using that method.Correct again, but it takes LESS electricity to make more electricity, if you set it up right.

SO lets get our electricity from another source, a wind turbine perhaps. Better idea, lets just use that directly instead of hydrogen.

Hydrogen power via fuel cell/electricity is only a good idea because it is more energy dense than batteries, I think.

Long story short? We want better batteries/methods of saving and storing electrical energy.

Better batteries? All for it. But, getting electricity from wind power is hit and miss, since it's weather related, and getting your battery bank up to full power could take a very long time if Mother Nature isn't in a cooperative mood- the same can be said for solar, and both are systems I'm a fan of. Currently (pun intended), power cells rely on very expensive materials as catalysts. Last I checked, platinum was the best performer being used, and that stuff is more rare- and more expensive as a result- than GOLD. Power cells also have a more limited lifespan than the technology I'm looking into promises to deliver.

Hey, I could find that this leads into a complete dead end- I'm willing to accept that possibility. But, I'm also willing- and hopeful- to accept that it could deliver exactly what I'm hoping it can, and maybe even more. Unless someone does the research into it, no one will ever know. Might as well be me!

[KentsOkay]

Ad'lan, you are amazing and that is revolutionizing "The Tower"


Combustion between hydrogen and oxygen makes water again, as well as heat. Or you can slap it into a fuel cell and make electricity. Point of failure is it takes electricity to make electricity using that method.Correct again, but it takes LESS electricity to make more electricity, if you set it up right.

I may be very wrong, but I'm pretty sure one of those frumpy old assholes named Newton or Franklin or Faraday dreamt up a law saying that this is impossible.

[Confucius]

Ad'lan, you are amazing and that is revolutionizing "The Tower"


Combustion between hydrogen and oxygen makes water again, as well as heat. Or you can slap it into a fuel cell and make electricity. Point of failure is it takes electricity to make electricity using that method.Correct again, but it takes LESS electricity to make more electricity, if you set it up right.

I may be very wrong, but I'm pretty sure one of those frumpy old assholes named Newton or Franklin or Faraday dreamt up a law saying that this is impossible.

You are very wrong.
















It was Rudolf Clausius...



Knight, I wish to god this was possible, but I suspect you are setting yourself up for disappointment. All power to you though.

[KnightoftheRoc]

Ad'lan, you are amazing and that is revolutionizing "The Tower"


Combustion between hydrogen and oxygen makes water again, as well as heat. Or you can slap it into a fuel cell and make electricity. Point of failure is it takes electricity to make electricity using that method.Correct again, but it takes LESS electricity to make more electricity, if you set it up right.

I may be very wrong, but I'm pretty sure one of those frumpy old assholes named Newton or Franklin or Faraday dreamt up a law saying that this is impossible.

And, until rather recently, it was said to be impossible (according to the rules of physics) for a bumblebee to fly- yet, they do, and have for quite some time. The idea behind the process is not so much to get more electricity out than is put in, but to make a system that allows you to produce enough fuel to drive the electrical system that splits the water, AND still have some left over. It's not even a theory, it's BEEN DONE. In 1995, Stanley Meyer made the local news (his local news, not mine) with a dune buggy (so no hidden system could be concealed) that ran on water, and also provided the power to operate the electrolysis system he designed.

[raptor]

Knight I hope it works but Stan Meyers technology did not work. Before you go invetsing any money in this technology check out Stanley Meyer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer

His electrolosis process was not unique or practical.
Here are his patents. They are public records so anyone who can make them work can use them now. If they worked China would be building these by the million and ocean levels would start receeding for everyone using the technology.

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=5149407

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=4936961

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=4826581

[KentsOkay]

I may be very wrong, but I'm pretty sure one of those frumpy old assholes named Newton or Franklin or Faraday dreamt up a law saying that this is impossible.

You are very wrong.

It was Rudolf Clausius...

[/quote]

I tip my hat to your intellect, which beat mine this day.

I didn't bother looking it up, I knew it wasnt Newton but he's familiar with people as a dude who writes laws, I knew it wasn't franklin but franklin did describe some shit saying electricity cant be destroyed blah blah, Faraday was a guess.

Sadly, there are no free rides in the universe, fusion power is as close as we will get IMHO

[vegasguy]

so what stock piles would you guys have? any traps? mines? tank traps? let you inner arm chair commando run wilder then obama and the dimocarps with the nation`s income.

[Ad'lan]

so what stock piles would you guys have? any traps? mines? tank traps? let you inner arm chair commando run wilder then obama and the dimocarps with the nation`s income.

Vegasguy, check your PM's.

[Cold and dead]

If I won the Powerball, I would buy NORAD.

[KentsOkay]

If I won the Powerball, I would buy NORAD.

Meh unless it has one of these inside, missile silo is good enough.

[KnightoftheRoc]

so what stock piles would you guys have? any traps? mines? tank traps? let you inner arm chair commando run wilder then obama and the dimocarps with the nation`s income.

Vegasguy, check your PM's.

Not to encourage the use of illegal items or practices, but I always figured that LABELING your perimeter with "MINES" markers could be a pretty strong deterrent to trespassing. If legal in your AO, setting off a few M80's at random times and places within the perimeter would re-enforce the perception that the markers are for real. Especially if you manage to create a couple of convincing looking craters near the fence line. Make it look like the local deer population, who obviously can't read the signs, have found a couple of the mines. As far as I've been able to find, for MY state, it's not illegal to make people WANT to stay out of private property, even if it's through dis-information.

I used to have a sign in my shop window that read "Warning- this property patrolled by a PIT BULL 6 nights a week. Want to gamble which night he has off?" It was even better when I actually got a pit bull pup and took him to work with me.

[JeepDude]

Knight, I'm very interested to see how the Hydrogen Powered system goes, keep posting updates to this forum.

I liked the idea of a home blast door and a "Mine" sign at the entrance, I already planned on putting something along the lines of past this point you will be shot and dig some mounds out front to symbolize graves (who's going to know if they are real or not), and while on that subject lets get to the subject I'm sure everyone will enjoy....

How would you protect your home in the circumstance where an individual or worse a group of individuals decides the risk is worth the reward and decides to invade the property and attempt to take my resources, or worse get rid of me and my family?

and

What type of firearms would you purchase before hand, explosives would you learn to make, types of obstacles would you make to get to house? Would you invest in the ability to purchase automatic weapons or is there really no need for this? Obviously learning how to reload would be a good idea, and stockpiling ammo and reloading supplies would be good as well. (Be specific when it comes to which types of firearms and give reasons why.) and worse if an intruder did get into the house, how would you design the house to be safe and to protect my family? Bulletproof walls? sand in between walls to slow the speed of the bullet? (That is me just thinking, not sure if that is even possible or would cause more problems then it would be worth in a day to day setting).

Also some thoughts I've had on the subject of the home, I've decided when I build this (going back to the noise issue) I plan on putting a small shooting range in the basement (I'd like it big enough to train people in close quarter events but please don't overkill this -like I said, it's in the basement-). I know Blackwater's training facilities uses some sort of bulletproof paneling to make "rooms" that are hung from the ceiling able to slide into and out of position. How would you go about building this, material, sizing, ideas, etc.? Now I know there is plenty of information of this on the web, however I'd like to have yall's input on the matter.

Thanks for all the posts, keep them coming, I promise I do read them.

[KentsOkay]

Derp.

Thanks for coming out! Check this, it will tell you a lot about what you asked: http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=19895

[KnightoftheRoc]

Knight, I'm very interested to see how the Hydrogen Powered system goes, keep posting updates to this forum.
...

Well, at the risk of being reprimanded for spamming, you can check my sig-line, the website is now up, and I'm setting up a forum area as well. It's the same forum software as here on ZS, so navigation will be a snap for anyone who is already here on ZS. Bear with me, I'm new at the design side of this

[JeepDude]

Well, at the risk of being reprimanded for spamming, you can check my sig-line, the website is now up, and I'm setting up a forum area as well. It's the same forum software as here on ZS, so navigation will be a snap for anyone who is already here on ZS. Bear with me, I'm new at the design side of this

I look forward to it being up and going. Any thoughts on cattle? Is it a good idea to have a good size heard or would this draw too much attention? Or would it be better to raise hogs? Thoughts, ideas?

[Ad'lan]

I look forward to it being up and going. Any thoughts on cattle? Is it a good idea to have a good size heard or would this draw too much attention? Or would it be better to raise hogs? Thoughts, ideas?

Livestock Care After
Best All Around Livestock Animal

These should get you started. It all depends on conditions and your own skills/preference.

[PackLemming]

Ad'lan, you are amazing and that is revolutionizing "The Tower"


Combustion between hydrogen and oxygen makes water again, as well as heat. Or you can slap it into a fuel cell and make electricity. Point of failure is it takes electricity to make electricity using that method.Correct again, but it takes LESS electricity to make more electricity, if you set it up right.

I may be very wrong, but I'm pretty sure one of those frumpy old assholes named Newton or Franklin or Faraday dreamt up a law saying that this is impossible.

You are very wrong.
















It was Rudolf Clausius...



Knight, I wish to god this was possible, but I suspect you are setting yourself up for disappointment. All power to you though.

John Searl Wiki

[azrael99]

how would i build it ?

-6 feet tall concrete wall, with steel spike on top, with catwalk inside with remote open forged steel garage door and sidewalk
-terrain around a football sized playground
-septic tank
-wind generator
-solar panel on roof
-garden
-brick house with steel shutter.
-concrete with steel reinforcement basement, drain hole and waterpump
-rain collecting drum on roof collected to a water filter collected to the sink. with heating tube around the drum collected to the solar panel and wind generator to keep water from freezing
-hidden gun closet in each room with firearm and ammo
-garage with SUV, quad and gas tank with chemical to keep it fresh


and for now that what i could think of

[KnightoftheRoc]

As a few folks have requested, the website is now up and running. Link is in my sig line. Still figuring out the forums software, sorry.

We now return you to your fortress discussions.

[Blackhawk_tactical]

Going with 'won the lotto'

I'd buy existing

Too many windows on the main/ lower level.

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