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goofygurl wrote:Wee is a fire breathing dragon???
Greg Focker wrote:
*I believe that it would have been a legal shoot because he attacked me in my house, and he was struggling for the gun (albeit feebly). Could a prosecutor argue that my fetching my gun was time I could have spent retreating? Maybe. I could argue that since I did run to my weapon and then search the house for other bad guys before ending up back in my living room I was still actively engaged in the situation the whole time.
engineer1371 wrote:This as you live in Ohio we have the castle law here. As long as you are able to prove it was forced entry and you feard your life was in danger you are lawfully able to use deadly force. You will not be prosecuted (will have to do the whole grand jury thing for a no bill), but you can still be sued civilly. I am not a lawyer, but I have researched this and asked my father about it since he has been an officer in Ohio for 26 years. I still recommend you look it up in your area (even though the state passed a law that said our gun laws are law of the land) Cleveland may have some crazy ordnance out there that would make your day crappy.
chills1994 wrote:I have heard some weird things about Ohio's gun laws...something about if you are CCW'ing, you also need to have the receipt for the gun on you as like proof of title. But that is just what I heard.
chills1994 wrote:I gotta wonder...does or did your duplex mate from upstairs hear your dog barking?
He didn't hear the glass breaking?
If it wasn't for the dog's barking, your spidey sense wouldn't have been all tingley, and you could have been easily ambushed and things could have really gone south for you. So the dog definitely deserves some treats.
Was there any motive for the break in? Did he have a pillow case full of your expensive doo-dads or whatever?
Was he just looking for a place to stay warm?
I have heard some weird things about Ohio's gun laws...something about if you are CCW'ing, you also need to have the receipt for the gun on you as like proof of title. But that is just what I heard.
Yeah, be glad you didn't shoot the guy in your home. That would have been a legal and financial mess for you.
Greg Focker wrote:Yes we have castle doctrine, but that isn't the magic wand some people think it to be. However, if someone breaks into your home and commits a violent misdemeanor and/or a felony, neither they nor their family can sue you civilly. So I'm clear on that. Also, if the city of Cleveland tries to prosecute me for breaking city gun laws, they can go pound salt AND get ready to pay my lawyer fees, as statewide preemption law explicitly says the local government that tries to enforce a local gun law is liable for the defendant's legal fees.
JoergS wrote:Realistically, I think I can launch a nine pound chain saw at 50 fps from a shoulder mounted rubber powered bazooka...
squinty wrote:I reserve the right to yell "Dookyhole!" - or it's Hebrew equivalent if such a thing exists - whilst dispensing a barrage of palm strikes at my opponent.
CCWing in Ohio, you do not need to have a proof of title to the gun. I'm not sure who told you that, but their eyes are probably brown...
jamoni wrote:I think you did good. You could argue that you should have tied him up, but with adrenaline dump, and not being sure he was alone, getting the AR was reasonable.
I think it would have been a bad shoot. Not legally, but civilly, and emotionally. Congratulations on ratcheting down to a lower level of force. That's REALLY hard to do under pressure.Perhaps my only criticism would be that choking carries the danger of brain damage, so it might have been desirable to tie him at some point, just to avoid that. Still, you had boots on the ground, not me, so I have to trust you did what seemed right at the time.
hatchtrikk wrote:I'm glad you made out okay. I've never been in a situation like that, but I think you handled it just fine. Also, it is probably a good thing that you didn't have to off the guy. I'm very glad you were able to hold your own until the police arrived.
Are you sure you didn't know the guy? I ask because you said he was SITTING on your couch without any of your property in a bag or anything like that. Has it been confirmed that he was on something?
Is the dog kennel visible from the window that he entered from?
chills1994 wrote:the only thing that would be lagging in my mind if I was the OP's shoes would be:
A. if I were to find out that this "bad guy" had a mile long rap sheet of assorted crimes and was just a customer of what is our current revolving door legal system
B. if this "bad guy" were to go on at a future date to kill or rape someone.
but you/we will be playing the "what if" game for a lot of things for the rest of our lives.
jamoni wrote:I think it would have been a bad shoot. Not legally, but civilly, and emotionally.
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