Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

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Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby Regulator » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:28 pm

Being able to get food in a survival situation is pretty damn important. Sure you can go without, but do you really want to? You can forage for plants but it takes a lot of wild onions to equal a squirrel in nutritional content

I’m going to cover some traps in this thread. Once a trap is set, it will work for you while you concentrate on other tasks. Once a trap is made it is generally re-useable/re-settable. Most importantly, a trap will get you meat.

There are many traps out there. A lot of the ones shown in outdoor books are overly complicated and/or don’t work well. I won’t say that the traps I use are the only ones that work, but I will say they work well. And the majority of them are very simple.

I’m going to go over three deadfall traps first and I’ll add to this thread as I have occasion to make different traps. Deadfalls are very simple to make and work exceptionally well on the small animals that you would likely have around you in most any wooded location. Another advantage to deadfalls are they kill your animal quickly. More human sure, but consider this, if you have a rabbit hanging in a snare, it could bite free of the noose. Or with all the noise it would be making, you could easily lose your meal to a passing coyote or other predator. Deadfalls also often times cover your animal providing even more protection from predators.

First up is a modified Paiute deadfall. The modifications are (1) the vertical stick has a natural fork to hold the horizontal stick and (2) the vertical stick is pushed into the ground. This makes the trigger much more stable. Be sure that your rock doesn’t hit the vertical stick on the way down.

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The baited area is shown in red. This end of the stick touches the rock, the other end simply keeps the cord from flipping around the vertical stick.

Here is a close-up of the trigger. I have use natural cordage but anything will work fine. The Gerber is just for scale.

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See it in action, click the pic.

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Next up is a very simple trigger. Here you are relying on pressure to keep two round pieces of wood against each other. The slightest movement makes them slip and sets off the trap. On this trigger, you can set the trigger before you place the rock as separate pieces of cordage are used for the bait and rock.

A limb or stick under tension is held by the baited part of the trigger. In this case I am using a dead cedar branch still connected to the tree. You always want to use dead wood for your spring sticks as green wood will bend and lose it’s springiness. The stick holding the rock up is tied to the spring stick with a different piece of cordage. When the trap is set off, this cordage pulls the stick out and releases the rock. This trigger works well horizontally also. Bait placed where the red circle is.

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A close-up of the trigger

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And action, click the pic.

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Now I said most were easy. This trigger is a bit more complicated to build but damn it’s slick. It also is well suited for areas where the rock cannot drive the trigger parts into the ground when it falls. The trigger is released by movement an any direction. A good trap for birds as well as they will perch on the stick to eat the bait.

Basically the downward pressure of the rock makes the two larger sticks want to spread apart at the bottom. The bait stick is notched and holds them together until tripped. Hard to explain, easier to see. Bait placed where the red circle is. The baited stick does not touch the rock in this trap.

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Close-up of the trigger.

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And the action shot, click the pic.

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So there’s three that are easy to learn, easy to set and damned effective. Any questions, lemme know.


Edited to put the correct video in for Paiute trigger
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:32 pm

Good post, and good videos. Do you use snares as well?
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby Regulator » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:44 pm

I do. Mostly modern ones made of braided steel cable and bent washers. I do however have a couple good snare triggers that can be field made. I’ll get them posted up here eventually. Snares can be useful no doubt it’s just when people think snare they seem to visualize those stupid squirrel snares with all the wire loops on the branch :lol: I set so many of those as a kid… I’ve never even heard of them working but yet they are in all the books. Anyway, yes, some snares are very useful.

I’d be happy to learn new ones that anyone has had good success with too.
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Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:53 am

I'd love to see more traps. I think too often we think of deer and turkey as the only game, or of squirrels and other game as "too much hassle for a bullet." Snares and traps would seem to be a force multiplier (low energy expenditure for game brought in)
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby bonanacrom » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:56 am

There are a few trapping threads already someplace around here.
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Postby Fletch » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:57 am

Not with such sexy pics banana-bonce

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Postby the_alias » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:57 am

Great thread Regulator. I have a few questions :

How do you mimimise your scent when creating such traps?

What ratio on average do you personally get with traps to kills?

bonanacrom wrote:There are a few trapping threads already someplace around here.

None as good as this one.
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Postby JoeTosco » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:05 pm

Traps are very interesting.

I like the ones Ron Hood show on Woodsmaster series.
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby Regulator » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:42 pm

Doc Torr, Exactly right. You can have several traps “hunting” for you while you are taking care of other needs. Small game is your survival meal ticket. Usually plentiful and can be used before they spoil in most cases.

Bonanacom, I admit I did not search. I just didn’t recall seeing any in the couple years I been here. I’d like to though, have a link?

Thanks, Fletch

the_alias, I don’t worry about scent coverage at all. I mean I don’t pee beside the traps, but I don’t try to cover my scent either. Most small game don’t seem to be worried about it. In fact a lot of animals are curious and are attracted to unusual scents. I’m sure you’ve been camping and in the morning found tracks where animals have came close to your camp right? Or even seen eyes looking at your camp at night when shinning a light into the woodline.

Success rate… You know I don’t really live in the woods full time right? :lol: It would be hard to give you a percentage. There are a lot of variables at play. If you have small animals in there area, and you are using a good bait, and your trap is set correctly you have a very good chance of getting something. It may take a day or two, but a trap will be ready when the animal shows up. The best suggestion I have is to make the traps now and see how well they work. Then you can use whichever ones you think are best suited for your purposes.

As an aside, a friend of mine that does a lot of this kinda thing has said that sometimes the traps will be set off from animals chewing on the cordage. He thinks perhaps from the oils his fingers leave from twisting it up.

Joe, I have not heard of him. I’ll have to look up his show. Thanks.
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby scurvy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:40 pm

nice vids, thank you. . .

I like v 1.0, I think using the trigger to hold bait against the fall would be a 100% win.

would it be worth the effort to create a 'corral' around a long fall ( with sticks shoved into the ground 'fence style' around the fall, or maybe rocks like a set of 'lower teeth' to keep the prey in the kill zone? ) critters have amazing reflexes.

I once caught a magpie with a figure-4 and a dome bbq screen for the dead fall, and was proud as hell about it. day squirrels and chipmunks are pretty easy with the box-stick-string method as well.

I'd like to practice this more without killing the critters if I don't need em. . . maybe dig a hole under the fall?

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Postby Blackdog » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:55 am

A picture is worth a 1000 words, thanks.

Since going with the forked stick Paiute I have never looked back, much easier to work with I find, especially if building it for really small game.

Now that I can see it, I really do like the second trigger and if I can get the man off my back for a complete day I will give it a go.

Ever since my inner hippy sprang to life a few years ago it has been hard to really put the new traps I have learned to the test, I am rarely hungry these days.

The last real use I put traps to was cleaning the raiding pack of rodents out of my last hootch, the Paiute along with some very small PITA to wittle and set figure 4s worked just fine for this.
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby angelofwar » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:30 pm

Anyone have a picture, and/or tips, on building a "Squirrel Pole"?

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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby Regulator » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:52 pm

Scurvy, I didn’t create funnels on these traps for clarity sake. It is definitely worth the trouble to put up stick walls, rocks etc to funnel the animal into approaching the trap the way you want it to. I have never put “teeth” under a deadfall but on larger log deadfalls I will put two logs on the ground paralleling each side of the fall log. This is to break the back of the animal. I will hopefully get pics of this type of deadfall up soon.

As far as practice and keeping from killing the animal, this is where I would put rocks under the deadfall. Leave space for them to escape.


Angelofwar, Google image search bought up a few. I have no tips as I don’t find much use in them. In the wild, there’s easier animals to catch. In your backyard, use a 6’ length of 3” pvc pipe with peanut butter smeared inside a few inches down from the top. Cap the bottom. Lean this pipe against a fence or tree. Fill the bottom with water to kill ‘em, or don’t and take the live ones somewhere and release ‘em.
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Postby angelofwar » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:22 am

Thanks regulator. Got a taste for wild meat...might have to try that.
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Postby Fletch » Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:08 am

I hope this isn't too far off topic, but with regards to bait, I hear peanut butter is excellent - does anyone have any comments regarding the efficacy of it?
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Postby angelofwar » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:23 am

r.e. the peanut butter...I know it works well in mouse traps...as far as GP bait, all the old timer mountain men i know swear by it...from foxes to racoons, you name it. Of course, a rotten can of sardines works to...
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Postby Privateer73 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:11 pm

Years ago as a teen I earned my spending money and vacation cash running a trap line sardines for coons and foxes and funny enuff grape preserves for skunks and possum. Before the fur trade ran out the pelts would get me almost a grand a month and the carcasses another 2 to 3 hundred.
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Postby angelofwar » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:19 pm

Don't a few of the fishing lure companies still buy tails, etc.? I saw an ad in a fishing lure catalog one time, offering to buy squirrel tails.
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Postby Readphnx » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:07 pm

I wish I could find a place locally that bought coyote pelts. I'm going to have a bunch in Jan. and Feb.
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Postby Chops720 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:41 pm

This is fantastic, thank you OP!
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Re: Survival animal traps. Snares, deadfalls, etc.

Postby Regulator » Tue May 21, 2013 11:03 pm

Thought I’d add a couple more extremely simple deadfalls to this thread. These two require no cordage, are easy to set and so simple to build you need no instruction other than seeing the pictures.

This one is similar to the Paiute but requires no cordage. You do need a solid base to keep the stick from sinking into the ground from the weight of the rock. Bait goes where the red X is.

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The second trigger just balances a pointed end against a round stick holding the bait against the rock. Baited at the red X.

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