Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

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Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby Msgt. Kills » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:47 pm

Would a 22. kill a zombie with a double tap to the head? If so i would rather stock up on cheap 22. round than the more expence 223. or 7.52 rounds. You get more ammo for your money.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby Regular Guy » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:48 pm

Msgt. Kills wrote:Would a 22. kill a zombie with a double tap to the head? If so i would rather stock up on cheap 22. round than the more expence 223. or 7.52 rounds. You get more ammo for your money.


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Hey, use the search button. This has been talked about at length.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby raptor » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:56 pm

This has been discussed at length. I will move this to Zombie tactics. The consensus of opinion is that a .22LR is appropriate only for squirrel and rabbit zombies.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby AUA » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:44 pm

Msgt. Kills wrote:Would a 22. kill a zombie with a double tap to the head? If so i would rather stock up on cheap 22. round than the more expence 223. or 7.52 rounds. You get more ammo for your money.


At close or point-blank range, perhaps. At all other ranges, the .223 and other rounds used to hunt game larger than a rabbit would serve you better.

If you know the limits of your caliber (literal whites-of-their-eyes range, has a very real possibility of failing to penetrate through the skull to the brain), are using it in conjunction with an evasion/avoidance-at-all-costs plan, and train with it regularly, then for zombies, I suppose you could use a .22 LR against zombies.

Now, for anything else...a .22 LR is pretty inadequate. Some people can take large game with a .22, but those people are highly experienced hunters who know exactly where to hit and how to hit it. For self-defense, a .22 will be pitifully inadequate with everything but a headshot at close/point-blank range (and even then, again, it may or may not penetrate enough).

Conclusion: a .22 LR could be useful, under very specific circumstances. You'd be better off using another caliber for just about any job outside of small-game taking (actually, the 5.7 FN could be equally useful against small game and bigger game, so..).
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby Valorius » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:49 pm

Msgt. Kills wrote:Would a 22. kill a zombie with a double tap to the head? If so i would rather stock up on cheap 22. round than the more expence 223. or 7.52 rounds. You get more ammo for your money.

If the requirement is massive tissue destruction, then the short answer is, "no."

If any little wound to the brain will do, then sure, why not. The key with a .22 is getting it moving fast enough. I don't see any rimfire .22 being a very good choice.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby ausher » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:56 pm

i plan on using my .22 on zombies when they do become real. not because its the most effective, but because it would be the most fun :twisted:
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby Msgt. Kills » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:38 pm

ausher wrote:i plan on using my .22 on zombies when they do become real. not because its the most effective, but because it would be the most fun :twisted:


I like the idea. You could have a lot of fun :D
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby AUA » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:42 pm

M1919 .22 LR MG

This would be interesting to use, in that case.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby fistynickle » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:48 pm

I for one believe the 22lr and the 22mag would kill a zombie. Remember the History ch show Swamp People they use the 22mag to kill gators, so if it will kill a gator i think zack is not a problem.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby yossarian » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:53 pm

I heard the mafia uses .22's on zombies because they bounce around inside the skull.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby AUA » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:35 pm

fistynickle wrote:I for one believe the 22lr and the 22mag would kill a zombie. Remember the History ch show Swamp People they use the 22mag to kill gators, so if it will kill a gator i think zack is not a problem.


They probably do so at point-blank or arm's length, which is exactly where you would not want to be should your opponent exist in numbers greater than one and if your allies exist in numbers less than three (for either gators or zombies).

I figure with a .22 LR handgun, your engagement range would have to be ~25 meters, and with a .22 LR rifle, you'd only get out to ~50m, for at least semi-consistent successful headshot kills. Your bullets would basically have to hit dead-on, with single-digit angle of attack, or would have a marginal chance of successful penetration of the skull.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby Phoenix David » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:38 pm

No. You have to have a .22WM.

Tests have show that the .22WM will penetrate up 6" of bone with a cross sectional density of .76 with a galatians factor of 13 on the Rickman scale
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby TacticalZombieTeam » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:34 am

Of course. a .22 bulet can penetrate the skull. J.L. Bourne proved this in day by day armageddon.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby ruralranger » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:50 am

years ago,while drinking beer & ending up with a lot of empty cans ,we filled them with water & using cci 22 stingers ,32g @ 1640fps , would shoot the cans & they would blast a hole thru the can the size of a softball...yea,they did some damage :mrgreen: / haven't had a chance to try on zombies yet but it could be interesting... [to be fore warned is to be fore armed] [a nods as good as a wink to a blind horse]
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:52 am

TacticalZombieTeam wrote:Of course. a .22 bulet can penetrate the skull. J.L. Bourne proved this in day by day armageddon.


Wasn't that book a work of fiction?
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Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby ScottAW » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:35 am

What about taking sound level into consideration? Bigger caliber means more noise, which may attract more
Zombies, 22s are fairly quiet.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby lailr » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:54 pm

IDK what range the guy on the history channel was at, but it looked like he got good skull penetration.... any thoughts?
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby silversnake » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:09 pm

lailr wrote:IDK what range the guy on the history channel was at, but it looked like he got good skull penetration.... any thoughts?


Don't know about the range, but that "skull" looked an awful lot like the plastic anatomical skeletons and that the shot entered and exited on line with the horizontal cut where the top of the skull can be lifted off to look at the internal structures of the skull. In other words, visually cool (and I certainly wouldn't want to be shot there as it would very likely kill) but not necessarily accurate.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby CipherNameRaVeN » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:17 pm

Regular Guy wrote:
TacticalZombieTeam wrote:Of course. a .22 bulet can penetrate the skull. J.L. Bourne proved this in day by day armageddon.


Wasn't that book a work of fiction?

Regular Dude, I think he was joking. :wink: But, you saw History Channel the other day, they ran the zombie vs .22 test, and it worked rather well at 20ft or so.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby AUA » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:39 pm

ScottAW wrote:What about taking sound level into consideration? Bigger caliber means more noise, which may attract more
Zombies, 22s are fairly quiet.


When fired from ~5m indoors, most guns should be relatively quiet relative to an observer outside.

Set up a table away from the window opening, pull a chair (or if it's a dining room table, just hop on up and assume the prone position), and shoot.

Or you could just get a silencer/subsonic ammo.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby lailr » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:54 pm

silversnake wrote:
lailr wrote:IDK what range the guy on the history channel was at, but it looked like he got good skull penetration.... any thoughts?


Don't know about the range, but that "skull" looked an awful lot like the plastic anatomical skeletons and that the shot entered and exited on line with the horizontal cut where the top of the skull can be lifted off to look at the internal structures of the skull. In other words, visually cool (and I certainly wouldn't want to be shot there as it would very likely kill) but not necessarily accurate.



Yeah, went back to the DVR and watched it, looks like a horizontal line to me too....about had me fooled there...should'nt have listened to a guy who said a 9mm is an intermediate step between a .22 and a 12 gauge...... although we used to kill hogs with a .22, it was up close, although a hogs skull is thicker... I'd try it in the ZPAW, but would not unless I had something to fall back on
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby velojym » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:25 pm

If I'm in the thick of 'em... I think I'd want a .223 at least.

If I'm on a rooftop they can't reach? .22 all the way, bay-bee. That way if they don't go down instantly, I'm still ok.
The noise could still attract others from nearby, but I can see that as being tactically useful. If you have lookouts stationed
within eyeshot of your main hidey-hole, safely elevated above the horde, they can draw zeds away from the house in order to
allow parties to come and go relatively safely.
As for shift change... well, that'd be its own challenge.

I can see a number of 10/22 rifles unstocked and mounted in pan/tilt frames, and operated via telepresence.
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Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby mcfroggin » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:28 pm

I'd rather use a .223 than need to double tap a zombie in the head with a 22LR. My aim won't be excellent when using Rule #1: Cardio.
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Re: Would a 22 LR kill a zombie?

Postby CipherNameRaVeN » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:31 pm

Don't fuck with rules! you have to double tap either way!
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