Gardening Illigal?

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Re: Gardening Illigal?

Postby RogerK » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:50 am

arrowolf wrote:With all the gov't cutbacks going on (and my office just became one of them in the Dept. of Agriculture itself), the idea there's gonna be a Homegrown Tomato Police is pretty fricking ludicrous.


Google 'Julie Bass Oak Park MI' Don't need Feds, empower the locals.

btw most small (aka family) farms don't make 200K (gross) let alone 500k.

When we milked cows (70 Holstiens), we grossed about 75K (1997).

If you have not farmed for a living, then perhaps you should listen to those that have.
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Re: Gardening Illigal?

Postby RogerK » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:56 am

Blacksmith wrote:
Hopefully I didn't fuck up any math, but 167k a year is pretty damn good money.


I guess. Most real small farmers work about 3500 hours a year. That works out to a little under $50 an hour for someone grossing that much. But they are still working 3500 hours a year. And forget about vacations, employer sponsored health insurance or any other benefit. Get hurt/ sick and you work hurt/ sick. The work never, ever stops. You don't take it home with you, you live it. This is more of a lifestyle than a job. But most won't gross near that much. Still many make over $100K a year which isn't bad but for the amount of work involved a lot of people won't do it.

Real farmers are some of the thriftiest people I know and have a lot of responsibility that most people in modern society no longer contend with.


+250, 000

Cows need milking twice every day. If they are yours, and you want the best for the cows (and your wallet) YOU do the milking. I remember when I was about 5, my dad was milking cows hours after passing a kidney stone.
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Re: Gardening Illigal?

Postby arrowolf » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:54 pm

RogerK wrote:If you have not farmed for a living, then perhaps you should listen to those that have.


Everyone I work with is a farmer/rancher. But tinfoil hats get a little hot in the TX sun.
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