Need Info on Ford Bronco (5th gen) aftermarket bumpers=Mfg.?

[FrANkNstEin]

I need to know who makes these aftermarket bumpers and if they´re still out there to buy:



Also: talk me out of purchasing a 1993 Ford Bronco 5.0l EFi Eddie Bauer like this from the local Ford Dealership:



General Bronco Talk appreciated too!

[Braxton]

Bronco=Awesome.

I love the Ford Bronco.

[breacher]

Roadarmor.com makes bumpers like that there is also a couple other manufacturers but you will have to google them to find out. I own a 92 150 and I was looking but they all want 1000+ for them I settled on the fact that I'm just gonna make my own and save a ton of money.

[FrANkNstEin]

Thanks!

DIY would probably be the way to go if they´re really that expensive.... shipping to austria would be steep too i guess....

I´ll go on a test drive first anyway and look it over more thoroughly before i buy it. Kinda moot to already plan the mods before i own it...

[HKTackDriver]

Don't forget your projector/halo headlight kit. http://www.topgearautosport.com/part/A122L6Q9101/Ford_Bronco_1992-1996_Clear_Dual_Halo_Projector_Headlights.html
http://www.carid.com/1995-ford-bronco-headlights/
Tail lights to match: http://www.carid.com/1995-ford-bronco-taillights/

Your bumpers: http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-35030-rocksolid-front-winch-bumper.html
http://broncoair.com/frontbumper92-96.html
http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/category/Bronco_Bumpers_92-97
Matching rear: http://broncoair.com/rearbumper.html

Now drop a 4BT engine in that beast!

[mad4wd]

Also: talk me out of purchasing a 1993 Ford Bronco 5.0l EFi Eddie Bauer like this from the local Ford Dealership:

No problem....Dont Buy It. It is almost 20 years old with no aftermarket support. You can still get hard parts but more than likely a lot of the other parts have been obseleted from ford(not even saying that you are in austria for gods sake, Parts=expensive) Over here there were a lot of them running around and in scrap yards, but our 'cash for clunkers' took a lot of them off the road (it was one of the 4500.00 trade ins). You are in Austria, dont you have Toyota Hilux or HJ/BJ's with diesels there?

[HKTackDriver]

Also: talk me out of purchasing a 1993 Ford Bronco 5.0l EFi Eddie Bauer like this from the local Ford Dealership:

No problem....Dont Buy It. It is almost 20 years old with no aftermarket support.

Uh, know what you're talking about before giving advice. ALL generations of Broncos have significant aftermarket support. The engines and trannies are off the shelf models and rebuilding them is easy. Parts are readily available, custom parts are consantly made (parts commonality with the F150) and the Broncos have a cult following. The only problem they had is rust. If you find one with little to no rust, I say jump on it and start working on it. U joints, axles and suspension parts should be looked at and make sure the 4wd and lockers are working properly. If the engine has power and the tranny functions well, it's a winner - AND A CLASSIC.

[breacher]

I agree with hktackdriver HUGE following and many parts available if you have the 5.0 engine that platform goes in everything from mustangs, crown victorias, broncos, all F series pickups, street and drag cars. The only problem with finding parts is finding the right one you want. if your serious in the broncos look up fiberglass replacement fenders they make the bronco look bad ass! I would buy some but I own a long bed 150 and they only make them for short beds. I say buy it I have never been disappointed with any 150 or bronco I have owned (4 trucks and 3 broncos).

[OpelBlitz]

Also: talk me out of purchasing a 1993 Ford Bronco 5.0l EFi Eddie Bauer like this from the local Ford Dealership

Why would we talk you out of something? It's your money, go do what you want with it

In all seriousness, nice vehicle. I prefer the 2-dr Tahoes and K5's, but that's still pretty epic.

[mad4wd]

Uh, know what you're talking about before giving advice. .

Really? Listen...any time you want to compare tool boxes, shops, CNC mills and lathes, Fab tools, Offroad Vehicles owned and built or whatever feel free...I will give you my number. So what do you do for a living? ...please do tell me...I cant wait to hear it.
Just because you can rebuild an engine from a JC Whitney catalog does not make it have "aftermarket support"....ohhh you can rebuild a 302 from a catalog or bolt on a 3" lift from Rancho...wooptey doo...he is in Austria...not 2 day shipping from Summit Racing.
Aftermarket support is the CJ, TJ and JK Wrangler, Toyota LC / FJ / 4Ruunner / Hilux and Minitruck...Hundreds of companies make parts for these...not 2 or 3...just because you can get hard parts from Jeffs Bronco Graveyard for people too lazy to go to dealer...does not mean it has aftermarket support. Thats the problem with this forum...vs the others( Medical, BOG, Com)...a lot of people here just dont get it...a Mustang, Van, Grand Prix, Taurus Etc is not a BOV..unles its your only vehicle which then thats fine...do the best you can to keep it in repair and running good, but its nothing more than a daily driver. The other forums take their shit seriously. I actually get paid to build BOV's from mild to practically armored...and none of them have been cars or broncos..lol

[breacher]

wow! looks like someone hit a nerve...... ALSO please dont generalize just because you dont like what someone says doesn't mean everyone on the site is a bunch of ass clowns I take my vehicles seriously but I dont have the luxury of having a shop with those tools at my disposal. So yes I order my parts because I have to, I rebuild what I can with the resources I have that doesn't make me any less serious about my trucks then you, just less fortunate.

[Tater Raider]

Uh, know what you're talking about before giving advice. .

Really? Listen...any time you want to compare tool boxes, shops, CNC mills and lathes, Fab tools, Offroad Vehicles owned and built or whatever feel free...I will give you my number. So what do you do for a living? ...please do tell me...I cant wait to hear it.

A penis size competition? Really?

Just because you can rebuild an engine from a JC Whitney catalog does not make it have "aftermarket support"....ohhh you can rebuild a 302 from a catalog or bolt on a 3" lift from Rancho...wooptey doo...he is in Austria...not 2 day shipping from Summit Racing.

One of my favorite lines from "The Fast and The Furious" is when Jesse says, "Overnight parts from Japan."

Aftermarket support is the CJ, TJ and JK Wrangler, Toyota LC / FJ / 4Ruunner / Hilux and Minitruck...Hundreds of companies make parts for these...not 2 or 3...just because you can get hard parts from Jeffs Bronco Graveyard for people too lazy to go to dealer...does not mean it has aftermarket support.

If you can get parts, that's what matters.

Thats the problem with this forum...vs the others( Medical, BOG, Com)...a lot of people here just dont get it...a Mustang, Van, Grand Prix, Taurus Etc is not a BOV..unles its your only vehicle which then thats fine...do the best you can to keep it in repair and running good, but its nothing more than a daily driver. The other forums take their shit seriously. I actually get paid to build BOV's from mild to practically armored...and none of them have been cars or broncos..lol

If you are happier with other forums then go there. Seriously. Everyone will come out ahead. However, if you keep your mind a bit open and keep a sense of humor you can learn a lot from this place. I know I have - and I learn more each day.

I have a Jeep JK Wrangler for my daily driver/BOV. My backup is a bicycle. I have yet to see a bicycle that is 4WD but I've seen a lot of folk go touring around my home state for a week on one - they have to limit the event to 10,000 people. Limit it.

My daily driver/BOV prior to this was a minivan. It's perfect for getting a family of 5+ 2-3k miles down the road all by it's little lonesome. I wouldn't take it mudding, but we're talking bugging out, not expedition off-roading so I would say driving in a shallow ditch isn't unreasonable or this vehicle, if you need to go around an accident.

So relax, take a breath, and realize that I'm smiling when I say a shopping cart can be a BOV - and a couple of us have publicly disagreed over this fact without acting like, "Oh yeah? Well my dad can beat up your dad!" I'm serious about that - it makes it so you can carry more goods - but I am smiling. If you don't believe me then please explain why people associate shopping carts with the homeless and why they got it so very, very wrong.

I understand that you build 4x4's as BOV's from the ground up. I accept this and will listen to any information you want to put out there on how to get the most out of my JK without going overboard with both ears. You may want to expand your definition of what is and isn't a BOV though.

If you stay or go, I hope you end up being somewhere you enjoy, can teach others, and learn from as well.

[HKTackDriver]

I don't advertise my services here, so I'm not posting what I do, but I'm not a grease monkey - if that satisfies you. But I am somewhat knowledgable on cars and trucks and I think your comment generally sucked on the OP's question. It was misleading and not accurate. You ARE right that I didn't notice he's in another country and parts may be harder to come by, but then again, so may parts for Jeeps.

On another note, when you're telling us how parts are not available, it's not the best argument to then start rattling off the usual companies that stock Bronco parts. The Graveyard is a Bronco specialty site, similar to Jeep sites. Do you discredit Jeep sites because they're American "brand specific" sites? No. Because you're a Jeep guy, your web site made that abundantly clear. As far as "BOV"s go, I don't think he even mentioned that it was a BOV. So what are you talking about? This is the TRANSPORTATION forum, regardless of what people post in that ridiculous BOV pic thread (really, you're going to put a push bar on a brand new Camaro to impress ZS?), people can still discuss their interests here. If I wanted to talk about my Porsche GT3 or Yukon Denali, does that mean I'm not worthy of this site? Come on guy, for the most part, if you hadn't noticed, 70% of this site is kids under 25yo. Hardcore survivalists building dedicated BOV's?

Now just so we can kiss and make up, please post some of these dedicated BOV's you've built, I'd like to see what people's imaginations and your skills can build. If you can give us a rundown, that's cool. In fact, start a new thread and advertise your expertise. MPG, armor, off road capabilities, axles, lockers, weights, liquid capacities, whatever they have on em, I'd like to hear. And no, I'm not trying to piss you off, you really have my curiousity now. I promise I won't criticize your work. ...MUCH!

If you start another thread, post the link here. I'm too lazy to go looking in the transportation forum

[LostDrifter]

if you check out Fullsizebronco.com, they have threads with tons of pictures of aftermarket and custom made bumpers, some rather simple and crude (polite for ugly) and some that are well, beautifully done.

I have an 84 bronco, I was my first vehicle, i traded it off, but hunted it back down years later. its currently getting rebuilt into an overlanding vehicle (ie: BOV). excellent bug out vehicles, they are reliable, tough, lots of parts available (well, at least in colorado...) plus they can seat 5, still have cargo in the back, and still be able to pull a trailer.

[FrANkNstEin]

Sooo:

I paid a visit to the dealer yesterday to learn some more and make an appointment for a test drive:

56k Miles on the clock
hidden winch under the front bumper (i guess it´s at least a 3 ton winch, anything else wouldn´t make sense on a 2.2 tonner)
It already stands on 33´s. Now i´m not knowledgeable about offroading at all, but it seems like these are a good "in between" size between street capability and off road capability. A compromise of course, but thats totally fine with me.
The 33´s are listed in the title, which is important: we can´t exactly slap whatever we want on a rig if it oughta be street legal. It has to match either the normal standard, or must be listed in the title to be street legal. Making mods street legal is cumbersome and expensive, so this is not an unimportant point.

If i wait two days or two months on Parts is really not the big deal with mods. It´s making them street legal here that is the big deal.

It guzzles 25litres when pulling a trailer with a second car, and 15litres for normal driving. (on average)

By pure chance i happen to know both former owners:

The first owner, who imported it back in 1994 from Canada is a guy from my town, who happens to have a Chrysler/Jeep/Hyundai Dealership and repair shop over in the next town. Right now, he rides tricked out JK´s and he just attended the National Championship with one of them. He put about 55k Miles on it. He already had a auto repair shop back then, so i suspect he also used it to pull trailers. Probably to move his non street legal Off Roaders to various places, but maybe also some regular towing now and then. I´ll have an extensive talk with him before i decide to buy. To learn more about the cars history. Since he has no stake in the game anymore, he can be perfectly up front about it. I also suspect that he gets parts from the US all the time for his various builds ect. and knows where to get them. We could probably try to put our shipments together to save freight costs. I also worked in his shop for a few days back when i was 14, trying to decide which job i´d like to learn in the future. There´s still a Polaroid floating around with me standing in front of a HUGE white Cadillac (iirc) in front of his Shop, i´ll post it as soon as it crosses my path

Edit: there it is:



You can see the blue plates mentioned later in my post on this pic.

He managed to wreck the tranny, sold the Bronco to the Ford dealer who sent the tranny off to a swiss specialist in automatic trannies for rebuild. The dealer strikes me as very up front, he freely told me that they don´t do automatic trannies themselfes. While they could, it makes more sense to let a specialist do that. (85-95% of cars on Austrias streets are stick shifts is my guess, so it´s really not something you can hold against a repair shop here. If you get a tranny to repair every 5 years (if at all) it´s kinda hard to get experienced with it.)

The second owner is the dealer i´d be buying from, and while he owned it it never had it´s own license plate. (dealers and repairshops here have a set of "Blue Plates" that you can slap on any vehicle you´d like , for test drives) The only times they used the car was to pull a trailer with a second car, using the blue plates to make it legal of sorts. And of course it looks real purty standing right at the street, drawing customers. (This dealership also has a superb Ford Model T in the showroom which is not for sale, and the Bronco is only for sale because i asked about it)


As far as the Bronco goes, let me say:

I don´t view that thing any different then the 56´ Chevy Bel Air Hot Rod with the 350HP engine i almost bought this spring.
I´m well aware that i´m buying a US Car and i don´t expect any support for it at all. There is quite an active US Car scene in Germany though, and there are a lot of spare parts floating around. Of course they´re not as cheap as from a US scrapyard

I´ve never owned a car newer then 10 years, most were twenty years old, but my favourite commuter was already 31 years old when i drove it to work every day. The cops parted us because it ran so great that i never needed a repair shop for it. So i forgot to renew the safety check. Don´t get me wrong: it had rust issues and since i forgot to put it through the safety check, i would´ve needed to show up for a extensive check that only two shops in the whole county are allowed to do. Too much work for me especially since i worked overtime daily back then, i sold it and it´s now being built into a mountain race car by two brothers i happen to know.
My oldest car was 42 years old.

If i´m being honest about it: a 20 year old car is almost to new for me, but: It´s not like i have the luxury of choosing between ten Broncos (or similar cars) when it comes to that.

It will not be my daily commuter, while i love cars i´m not above using a 500$ beater for commuting. I couldn´t care less about looks or keeping up with the Joneses. I´d ride a car without windows or doors to work and couldn´t care less fi others like it or not, but the local cops wouldn´t be amused about that....

It´s just a tool to get me there, thererore i won´t spend more money then neccesary on my commuter. The Joneses (neighbours) always liked my Euro Rat Rod Commuters though....
It´s only 4 miles after all. Push comes to shove, i can ride my bicycle there. I never had to do that, even with the worst beaters i had.

I´m just not a "new cars" kinda guy, they loose too much Value in very short time. Shitty investment they are. While the Bronco won´t get worth any less if i take care of it, and not only that: it will get worth more with the years: It´s rare here, it´s a US car, it´s a future classic.

The Bronco would be a second vehicle, fun car, antidote for my V8 craving ect. BUT: the Bronco combines the "fat V8 for cruising" with 4x4, 33´s, a winch, two trailer hitches and quite some room. On the other hand: it has an AC, is comfortable to drive and roomy, so i can also use it for long drives (vacation).

It´s also not a pure BOV, i will not go all out on it and make it into a mudslinger/rockcrawler. I seek the right combination between Off road/On road capabilities and the Bronco seems to fit that Bill. I don´t subscribe to the Theory that a BOV MUST be such an "Extreme Off Roading Rig" that it becomes an annoyance on paved roads. If someone plans to bug out cross country, then that´s fine. I´ll have to stick to paths resembling a track of sorts with occasional detours, because even with the most extreme Rig, you´ll be SOL going straight cross country in my area. Depending on the road, anything less then a Unimog especially built up for off roading, will not even traverse the embankment and the MOG will be stuck after he traversed it because the trees grow to dense for a MOG to find it´s way.
While it would probably be possible somehow to go cross country all the way with the right rig and carefull planning of your line, it also happens to be the dumbest thing you can do. Unless you do it as a hobby and for pure fun. What good is it to make 3 miles in 8 hours through this terrain? A Hiker my grandpa will be faster traversing this terrain on foot then a 4x4.

It can traverse the worst street (private trail only a handfull of people are allowed to use, part paved, part dirt, mudslides, washouts) i usually drive on just fine when stock. (or the light mods it already has) I drove my FWD Volkswagen there in the past, but it´s really hard on the car. I think i wrecked something last week when i traversed a (big but gentle) bump/pit combo in the "road" too fast.
Laugh at me, but those bumpers i´d like to put on it: they´re more for show, not because i´m such a badass Off Roader. I´m not in a hurry about them, it´s just something i´d like to put on in the future.
(If i get that Bronc or a similar vehicle, i will get into light to medium off roading though, i need to learn it and i´d like to. I just never had a 4x4 before and i´d feel dumb showing up at the local gravel pit/rock mine with a 2wd)



I hear you on your suggestions Mad4wd!

Unfortuneately, the Pickup/4x4 Market in Austria is quite young, no matter which Mfg. and used rigs go for ridicilous prices. Unless they´re totally fucked up. If i´d get the cheapest new 4x4 pickup available, it´d cost me twice as much as the Bronco. And that´s if i buy a 2.5l Diesel. For 3.0l engines it seems the Mfg.ers like to pull an extra 10.000$ out of your pocket (the 3.0l engines seem to be sold only in the "Luxury" Class in combination with other expensive useless shit, you can´t get a 3.0l in the basic poor mans rig. That´s why the price is so high, not because of the engine alone)

Bronco, low mile, well maintained, some light mods: 10.000€
Ford Ranger basic, 2.5l: 22.500€ (other MFGers are right there with their prices, not much difference just an example because i saw the price list yesterday.)
Ford Ranger 3.0l : 27.500€ (Toyota for example, doesn´t even sell a 3L Diesel in Austria.)

Used Pickups: about 17.000€ and up it seems for those that i´d consider worth my while. Of course there is the rare occasional beater rustbucket to be had for a couple thousand, half an hour before dying.... Aftermarket support isn´t all that good for these either.

Don´t get me wrong, it´s not set in stone that i will buy that thing, especially since it´s an automatic and i prefer stick shifts. (that IS a big deal to me) I´ll be critical enough with it. Another huge point is the tranny: i will need to know how the first owner was able to wreck it. I suspect he had slight issues with it before he wrecked it, and the wreck occured because he put off repairing it for too long. Nothing new with people who have a repair shop themselfes... Well, i´ll ask him what happened exactly and how much Trailer work it really had to do back then. It´s also not a very grey man rig.... at least around here.

But the Bronco has some things going for it. in my opinion. I will probably put 2000 miles on it per year, if it´s THAT much at all. So i don´t think i´ll need that many spare parts at all unless i become a die hard Off Roader and destroy my rig there.

I will give it a test spin at least, if only to have the experience of driving a Bronco once in my life.... lol

I´m not in a hurry, the dealer is not in a hurry either. It´s not officially for sale.

[mad4wd]

Tater...
He started it...and that shit gets under my skin. The OP asked if he should buy it...I said no. Then he calls me out like some amateur.. like I have no friggin clue. Its the same in the diesel pickup thread about IFS vs SFA..my mothers brothers uncle had a truck and this is what happened or the guy telling people which axles fail all the time....that would be like me trying to taske a shot and what most patients walk into my doctor for...its a stab in the dark with no hard data to back shit up. Its always the same...because a guy 'tinkers' in his garage with a buddy...now he is an expert

HKTackdriver :
I dont advertise my services here and I do not need to...the website is a very small percentage of what we do. I can laugh with the best of them...but when people say they are building a BOV and its a 2wd van or a mustang...seriously come awn..lol. I didnt say he was making a poor choice in a BOV...just maybe a poor choice in Austria. I was trying to tell him was that maybe in the long run...living in Austria that may not be his best bet..that was my opinion. I am not partial to jeeps actually...I have a landcruiser fetish. Most of what we do you wouldnt be able to tell its a BOV..unless being 4wd with a bumper or ham antennas qualifies it as that..you cant see the larger fuel tanks, batteries, sliding drawers for ar15/pistols, skids, internal cages, airlockers, weapon lockers etc. I am sure I can scare of some pics of something for you if I look around

Here is one of the links to one of my builds...I havent updated it in awhile because I have not had time to work on it at all really...too busy with steel mill work, extrusions and parts for various other industries, other peopls vehicles...etc
http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-corner/168143-ronin-fj45-build-mad4wd.html
Feel free to pick away


Tater by the way...we made a 4wd 'bicycle'...check out the 'Nasa' moonbuggy competition..google it...some cool shit.

[mad4wd]

FrANkNstEin:
If you do not like the auto, you can convert it to a manual trans using a NP435, pedal cluster from an earlier bronco, etc

[FrANkNstEin]

I´d also love to see mad4wd´s awesome builds!

Please, if you can then show some of them!!

Like i said, if i´d get the Bronco or something remotely similar (a Jeep XJ for example, it´s also something i constantly look for. They´re abundant here, but i haven´t found "the right one" for me now) it´d be not a pure Off Road or pure BOV rig.

I just can´t afford don´t want to blow my money on a pure Off Road/Expedition/Extremety vehicle because i can´t justify that for my intended purposes and it would be used too little in places where it really shines. So i pretty much have to make some sacrifices and look for something that is more of a jack of many trades, but is about tenfold more capable then my current ride as a BOV. (my current ride is said FWD Volkswagen Jetta caravan, which is not a bad car (at least with Euro suspension, not sure about US Jettas since they use different parts on them!!) but it´s simply not very capable for offroading. At least not without inflicting damage into the car....)

Aside from being a gas guzzler, the Bronco would be one vehicle where i´d normally need to buy three vehicles:

a V8 cruiser, because i like me a nice US car with a V8 just for fun, but at the same time it´s much cheaper then most of those around here.
a 4x4 by the same time, with a winch for self recovery. Already high enough above ground where you´d want to lift another rig to achieve the same. (this particular one) Maybe it´s not the Uber-BOV, but i´d consider it a BOV for my needs nonetheless because it´d be my most capable vehicle.
a comfortable vehicle for longer rides with the nice seats, AC and (compared to some Jeeps) quiet interiour sound for long distances. The draw back is that it needs a lot of gas, but that can be mitigated as i often have passengers that are more then willing to pay for the gas for riding along on such tours. At the last tour we did, i was surprised by the fact that when i wanted to pay the gas bill after filling up the tank completely, the clerk said: Oh, it´s already been paid for by the gentleman who just walked out the door, you´re too late. I wish i´d hear that more often....

That´s what earned it a honest consideration, because it combines some of the things that i lust after.

If you do not like the auto, you can convert it to a manual trans using a NP435, pedal cluster from an earlier bronco, etc

I´m an industrial mechanic and a CNC guy by trade, but i´m afraid that a trannie swap would be above my capabilities especially since i also don´t have the room to properly work on cars at my home. I´m happy if i can fit another vehicle into the driveway, there are already four cars and two motorcycles hanging around at our place... (for all the family members, while i DID own three vehicles myself in the past, i got rid of all but one to free up the space)

I´m on good terms with the auto repair shop in my street though and i used their garage on sundays in the past to do smaller stuff. But i´d definetely need help swapping a trannie, i´m sure about that.

I have to see how i like an auto, i´ve not driven one for the last 8 years or so and that wasn´t even my car i drove back then. I have to say that autos are pretty shitty downhill in winter: you need to work with the motor break here and an auto will kinda "push" you no matter what gear, and you need to use the break to accompany the motor break. Which is just not a good idea on steep Icy roads like we have here in winter. It´d work if you have the road for yourself, but often Tourists from the Netherlands and Germany will cluster our roads in winter. Usually, they drive quite good and safe considering they´re more used to flat terrain, but to follow them in a car with auto is hard because of the push/break issue that usually wants to propell you a little faster then they drive.

Maybe the Ford Auto will work better for that then the BMW auto i drove back then, i´ll have to see it for myself. Maybe i can live with an Auto trannie in this car, we´ll see.

[Tater Raider]

Tater...
He started it...and that shit gets under my skin.

It's the interwebz. That way lies madness. Madness I tell you!

Tater by the way...we made a 4wd 'bicycle'...check out the 'Nasa' moonbuggy competition..google it...some cool shit.

A quadracycle? Nice. And that might make a decent BOV as well, though one-off parts tend to be something I avoid.

Was just concerned about how you came off in your post. Make love not war and all that. I've done the same thing here at least 3 or 4 times.



Frankie, something in the 32-35" tire size range is what you are looking for in a truck I think. Any bigger and it starts to get stupid for on road use between tire life, unsprung weight, and replacement costs. Any smaller and you lose the ground clearance you desire for driving on badly worn roads and over small logs/medium rocks. That's my totally personal opinion based on how much it will cost me to do upgrades to my suspension to clear bigger tires and my one time seriously driving over a "trail" through some woods and may not reflect reality in any way, shape, or form.

[FrANkNstEin]

Thanks Tater, it´s appreciated!

I think the Truck might be already liftet an inch or two by the looks of it, or it could be the fenders have been already cut out (since they all wear flares)

However, i´ll make a metric crapton of pics when i get around to take it for a spin, i´m sure you guys here will be able to tell me some more one you see the very truck we´re talking about.

That´s the only pic i have right now, only b&w from a copy of the title:



The truck´s actually green with desert tan flares/trim, not black with white trim like the pic suggests.

[Shaper]

Tater...
He started it...and that shit gets under my skin. The OP asked if he should buy it...I said no. Then he calls me out like some amateur.. like I have no friggin clue. Its the same in the diesel pickup thread about IFS vs SFA..my mothers brothers uncle had a truck and this is what happened or the guy telling people which axles fail all the time....that would be like me trying to taske a shot and what most patients walk into my doctor for...its a stab in the dark with no hard data to back shit up. Its always the same...because a guy 'tinkers' in his garage with a buddy...now he is an expert

HKTackdriver :
I dont advertise my services here and I do not need to...the website is a very small percentage of what we do. I can laugh with the best of them...but when people say they are building a BOV and its a 2wd van or a mustang...seriously come awn..lol. I didnt say he was making a poor choice in a BOV...just maybe a poor choice in Austria. I was trying to tell him was that maybe in the long run...living in Austria that may not be his best bet..that was my opinion. I am not partial to jeeps actually...I have a landcruiser fetish. Most of what we do you wouldnt be able to tell its a BOV..unless being 4wd with a bumper or ham antennas qualifies it as that..you cant see the larger fuel tanks, batteries, sliding drawers for ar15/pistols, skids, internal cages, airlockers, weapon lockers etc. I am sure I can scare of some pics of something for you if I look around

Here is one of the links to one of my builds...I havent updated it in awhile because I have not had time to work on it at all really...too busy with steel mill work, extrusions and parts for various other industries, other peopls vehicles...etc
http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-corner/168143-ronin-fj45-build-mad4wd.html
Feel free to pick away


Tater by the way...we made a 4wd 'bicycle'...check out the 'Nasa' moonbuggy competition..google it...some cool shit.

That build link made me tear up a little, lol...Mad fabrication props, bro.

[breacher]

bushwacker fender flares and oversized tires are a plus less work for you initially

[dukman]

Those tires in the pic look pretty close to stock size. Any larger and you need to at least get a bumper relocating kit which will push the front bumper out another couple of inches so the tires don't catch on it. Those fiberglass steps on the side are sure to get damaged if you try to do any off-roading. Broncos have weird front axles which are not as tough as "straight axles" for off roading, and their articulation isn't the best. They are good for most minor off roading tho, as I put a couple dents (and worse ) in mine. The rear ends use c-clips (I think that is what they are called) which sometimes break and will make it so the axle wants to leave the rearend, but this is true on many rigs. The stock axles are not locked, so you might need to weld them up for serious off road use. They are sweet rigs, but I wouldn't recommend one for daily driver use if you use the rear seats or cargo are much. If for some reason the rear window motor goes out, you are screwed and can't get into the back without breaking the window.

As for parts availability?? Parts are PLENTIFUL! The 302 is the exact same motor they used in many other cars from their fleet for a really long time. The bronc is basically the same as an F-series truck from the front seat forward.

[FrANkNstEin]

That´s the only pic i have right now, only b&w from a copy of the title:



The truck´s actually green with desert tan flares/trim, not black with white trim like the pic suggests.

The pic in my first post was just to show the colour. The b&w pic is the actual Truck. As far as the Bumper goes, if it get´s in the way it will be cutout for the tires, not put mounted further out.

The Title says 33" x 12.5 tires must be mounted as a Minimum but i´m not 100% sure what´s mounted right now.

It will never get to be an extreme Off Roading rig, i don´t have any plans like that. As long as i have some clearance and 4x4, that will do fine for me. If i´d like to do some really extreme off roading, i´d have to drive far for that. I guess the property owners around here would rip my head clean off if i´d go and tear up their woods for pure fun....

I´ll be off in half an hour to give it a spin. woot !