The All Purpose AK Thread

[the boz]

And finally and this is just my opinion. Ar buttstocks look hideous on an AK. Kinda like welding Cadillac fins on a VW bug.

Meh. My WASR came with a collapsable AR-type buttstock and though its ugly as sin, it works well enough. But im hoping to save up for a folding stock for it eventually.

My WASR came with the Tapco side folding, and I'm about to order the collapsable because mine straight broke on me.

dont order another tapco stock

there are plenty of sites you can find stocks. i usually order my ak parts from CSS

here are a # of options
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com ... Categories

[Carlos]

I'm just getting the Tapco stock so I can have something decent on there to train with for a while. I sure don't plan on keeping that shit on there for a long time. Thanks for the website though, I'm looking through it right now.

[AKFTW]

I'm just getting the Tapco stock so I can have something decent on there to train with for a while. I sure don't plan on keeping that shit on there for a long time. Thanks for the website though, I'm looking through it right now.

Why buy crap twice? Throw a K-var stock on it or even a surplus wood stock. They are cheap and aren't going to break on you.

[Carlos]

I'm just getting the Tapco stock so I can have something decent on there to train with for a while. I sure don't plan on keeping that shit on there for a long time. Thanks for the website though, I'm looking through it right now.

Why buy crap twice? Throw a K-var stock on it or even a surplus wood stock. They are cheap and aren't going to break on you.

Because one of the few things I like about the AR is the stock. I'm eventually going to replace it all, but I'll still have the Tapco as backup.

[Mr. E. Monkey]

I got a Romanian side-folder for my WASR--seemed appropriate. There are far better stocks out there, but I know for sure it's a hell of a lot more durable than a crapco, and it works well enough.

[Cpt. MelonBuster]

Saw JG offering WASR 3's again. Anyone know anything about it?

[Carlos]

It sucks. The AK-47 is meant to fire the 7.62 x 39. Honestly, anything less than that defeats the purpose of the gun.

[Dumptruck]

5.45x39 seems to do just fine in the AK. The Russians liked it so much that they have been using it since 1974.

[Cpt. MelonBuster]

It sucks. The AK-47 is meant to fire the 7.62 x 39. Honestly, anything less than that defeats the purpose of the gun.

I'm sorry, I just like not having to compensate for 8 inches of bullet drop past 200m

[Carlos]

I believe if you're that far away from someone, there's a chance they don't see you.

I've heard a lot of people say it jammed on them, but other than that it wasn't bad. Just like an AK except there's no kick.

[m ellis allen]

I've heard a lot of people say it jammed on them, but other than that it wasn't bad. Just like an AK except there's no kick.

wait wait wait, an AK Jam? we all know thats just not true

[Carlos]

I've had plenty of different sorts of jams on my M4, I guess it's the round. Personally, the 5.56 round does nothing for me.

[Bearcat]

It sucks. The AK-47 is meant to fire the 7.62 x 39. Honestly, anything less than that defeats the purpose of the gun.

At the moment, 5.45 is cheaper than 7.62 which is a very attractive feature.

I've heard a lot of people say it jammed on them, but other than that it wasn't bad. Just like an AK except there's no kick.

I wouldn't say there's no kick but it is significantly less. Mine was built by Red Jacket and the only malfunction out of ~2000-3000rds was at MilCopp yesterday. One empty stuck in the chamber. But a jam in an AK is a simple fix, dump the mag and rack the slide a few times.

[ShaneP]

New to the AK world.... I was bitten by the AK-47 bug mainly due to the price of gun and Ammo. My main purpose for the AK is a trunk gun for my jeep, and range fun...I have been searching AK's for the past couple of days...I work for a gun shop and can get an CAI AKMS polish underfolder for 439.00. which is cheaper than i can buy a pistol caliber carbine for and keep in the same ammo price range..advantage is a rifle round. What im wondering is this firearm a good choice, do you think its worth the extra weight in ammo any experience with this exact make and model? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct933.aspx by the way i dont work for alantic firearms, just the best pics and descirption
P.S. i plan on modernizing this rifle with the lightning bolt charging system, picitanny rail, flash light and either an Eotech or an Aimpoint PRO (my company doesnt carry aimpoint but have one on my AR at this time, I can however get an 512 eotech for $350. my main question here is do you think my aimpoint with a 2MOA is better served on AR or an AK?) Thanks in advance.

[Kutter_0311]

Has anyone tried the TA33-13 Mini-ACOG on their AK?

I want to put it on a TWS Gen2 rail.

It's going on an SGL-21.

[Kommander]

New to the AK world.... I was bitten by the AK-47 bug mainly due to the price of gun and Ammo. My main purpose for the AK is a trunk gun for my jeep, and range fun...I have been searching AK's for the past couple of days.

I'll do what I can to help you here but I am by no means an expert.

I work for a gun shop and can get an CAI AKMS polish underfolder for 439.00. which is cheaper than i can buy a pistol caliber carbine for and keep in the same ammo price range..advantage is a rifle round. What im wondering is this firearm a good choice, do you think its worth the extra weight in ammo any experience with this exact make and model? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct933.aspx by the way i dont work for alantic firearms, just the best pics and descirption

I would skip any kind of underfolder and most century guns as better can be had for the similar prices now. Underfolders have shitty cheek wield and tend to be a bit wobbly. If you want a folder on your AK I would go with a Romanian or E. German folder on a stock AKM as a cheap option or an ACE with an internal receiver block ans a more expensive and more permanent option.

P.S. i plan on modernizing this rifle with the lightning bolt charging system, picitanny rail, flash light and either an Eotech or an Aimpoint PRO (my company doesnt carry aimpoint but have one on my AR at this time, I can however get an 512 eotech for $350. my main question here is do you think my aimpoint with a 2MOA is better served on AR or an AK?) Thanks in advance.

The lightning bolt is quite simply not worth the money. For what you would pay for it you could get a top of the line AK instead of a cheaper century rifle. Additionally the extra slot on the side can act as another point of entry for debris that could jam up the gun. If you want to go the whole light/red dot/rail route then the setup of choice right now is a Utilimak with an Aimpoint Micro and low profile metal flashlight mount. There is also a new side rail mount out right now that will fit standard size Aimpoints and clones and allow cowitnessing, but it has not been extensively tested and you will still have to figure out how to get a light on the rifle. Mounting any kind of red dot on a foward rail can be tricky with an AK because of the heat. This is why you don't see allot of EO-Techs on them because up until recently none of them could take the heat.

[Kommander]

Finding exporters can be tricky because some stuff is outright banned from being shipped out of the country without the proper permits while some companies simply don't want to deal with the customs and whatnot. I know that Poland, the UK, and Russia have tactical markets so perhaps ordering something from one of those countries would be easier. Tactical Road Trip to Poland?

[ShaneP]

Well my thinking maybe behind the underfolder model, was its about 10 inches shorter than a fixed stock and easier to maniuplate in a vechile. and addressing the whole cheek weld issue http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=41208/avs%7CManufacturer_1=SAMSON%20MANUFACTURING%20CORP/Product/AK_47_CHEEK_RESTS

[Kommander]

Well my thinking maybe behind the underfolder model, was its about 10 inches shorter than a fixed stock and easier to maniuplate in a vechile. and addressing the whole cheek weld issue http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=41208/avs%7CManufacturer_1=SAMSON%20MANUFACTURING%20CORP/Product/AK_47_CHEEK_RESTS

I get why you want a folder I just don't think that an under-folder is the best way to go about it. For the price of that cheek piece you can get a Romanian side folder that will fit on any AKM type AK and once wrapped in paracord will provide a decent if not great cheekweild. For a bit more you can get an E. German folder which is basically the same thing but attaches in a bit more secure manner. For $185 you can do the ACE folder thing, but you'll have to cut the tang on the back of the receiver to make it work.

[shoggoth80]

Hey all.
I got a couple of n00bish questions... some background first:
I recently acquired a Norinco Mak90, that has been converted to use standard furniture (ie: normal buttstock and pistol grip). Don't need the 922r lecture, I know about that, so no worries.
It's in pretty nice shape. I think it rocks an Ironwood set for woodwork. The kicker: It's a slant cut receiver.

Now, I am a fan of the polymer Plum colored furniture (I think KVar makes that), but I was wondering if anyone makes such a thing for a slant cut?
I have an ATI Fiberforce stock set, but I put that up for sale, since I have little to no use for it. Using it to recoup some costs on the acquisition/get some ammo and extra mags. But I sure would like to have a set of polymer Plum colored furniture for it (I think it looks really neat, plus it is also really low maintenance). No ATI, or Tapco recommendations please. Am I stuck with Ironwood? Not like that is bad... the stock set that is on it is a neat looking red-stained laminate. Probably Birch.

Second n00b question:
I do not have a sling for it. Is there a more modern, two point sling that would work well? I tried my VTAC on it, and no go... the sling straps are too wide... guessing one with latch/hooks would be the right ticket?

[ShaneP]

I get why you want a folder I just don't think that an under-folder is the best way to go about it. For the price of that cheek piece you can get a Romanian side folder that will fit on any AKM type AK and once wrapped in paracord will provide a decent if not great cheekweild. For a bit more you can get an E. German folder which is basically the same thing but attaches in a bit more secure manner. For $185 you can do the ACE folder thing, but you'll have to cut the tang on the back of the receiver to make it work.

It's a personal preference but, not a big fan of side folders shot one with a scar. To me makes gun too wide. My friend has a yugo underfolder I enjoyed shooting. Only thing can't modify saftey.

[ShaneP]

sorry repost, moderator please delete

[PAres]

Second n00b question:
I do not have a sling for it. Is there a more modern, two point sling that would work well? I tried my VTAC on it, and no go... the sling straps are too wide... guessing one with latch/hooks would be the right ticket?

Unsure how you are latching your VTAC....but you can get 1' ITW mash hooks very cheap for your VTAC

Ex:
http://www.southwestweapons.com/product.cfm?pi=B66BBA2A-BBEC-627E-A120924AA90882D5
I am sure you can find it for cheaper if you look around. You could also find them with the hook covers so you don't jack your rifles finish up. Currently running a VTAC on my SGL21 and it works out great.

I actually got one of these as well :http://www.echo93.com/#!products . Not sure if its your cup of tea, but I find having the rear sling attatchment point closer to the reciever much better for me.

[Kutter_0311]

Second n00b question:
I do not have a sling for it. Is there a more modern, two point sling that would work well? I tried my VTAC on it, and no go... the sling straps are too wide... guessing one with latch/hooks would be the right ticket?

I had run G3 slings($5=cheap!), but now run VCAS w/ 1.25" Mash Hooks on my SGL'S.

The VCAS it pretty easy to set up all different ways. I have the QR at the rear, since the mash hook frees the front.