Ultimate ZS Battle/Scout Belt Thread

[Lucas_061287]

You can find the fastex buckles all over the place for cheap, if you wear the drop leg off the belt you will limit your movement if you wear the belt a little over your hips. Even with my safariland that was not a full drop leg it would bind up if I bent over at all. You could run it off your regular belt and free up the SGPB look at the pics I posted close and you will see what I mean.

Actually, Camelbak will be sending me some complimentary buckles in the mail- just read the e-mail! Pretty happy about that!

I can see what you mean. I tinkered with a Blackhawk dropleg Serpa today and yeah, movement was kinda limited and it was REALLY uncomfortable and dug into my... uhhh... "Cash and Coins" if you catch my drift.

So it looks like I'm gonna have to re-think my setup. I initially wanted 4 rifle mags and 3 pistol mags (two on weak side, one on strong side near holster).Now I'm thinking- 2 double decker TACOs, 2 standard rifle TACOs on the left/weak side, obligatory 7/6 oclock dump pouch, 5 oclock FAK, 4 oclock admit pouch, etc. Do you think I'll have enough room for pistol holster, knife sheath (Benchmade Nimravus), flashlight holder, AND the aforementioned pistol TACO?

[gravediggerfour]

You can find the fastex buckles all over the place for cheap, if you wear the drop leg off the belt you will limit your movement if you wear the belt a little over your hips. Even with my safariland that was not a full drop leg it would bind up if I bent over at all. You could run it off your regular belt and free up the SGPB look at the pics I posted close and you will see what I mean.

Actually, Camelbak will be sending me some complimentary buckles in the mail- just read the e-mail! Pretty happy about that!

I can see what you mean. I tinkered with a Blackhawk dropleg Serpa today and yeah, movement was kinda limited and it was REALLY uncomfortable and dug into my... uhhh... "Cash and Coins" if you catch my drift.

So it looks like I'm gonna have to re-think my setup. I initially wanted 4 rifle mags and 3 pistol mags (two on weak side, one on strong side near holster).Now I'm thinking- 2 double decker TACOs, 2 standard rifle TACOs on the left/weak side, obligatory 7/6 oclock dump pouch, 5 oclock FAK, 4 oclock admit pouch, etc. Do you think I'll have enough room for pistol holster, knife sheath (Benchmade Nimravus), flashlight holder, AND the aforementioned pistol TACO?

Figure out how many molle loops all that will take then look at your belt. You will run into problems if your running your pistol at the 3 and a Admin pouch at the 4. You do not want anything in the way of the pistol. But if your thiner then me your not going to fit all that on there.

[sigboy40]

You can find the fastex buckles all over the place for cheap, if you wear the drop leg off the belt you will limit your movement if you wear the belt a little over your hips. Even with my safariland that was not a full drop leg it would bind up if I bent over at all. You could run it off your regular belt and free up the SGPB look at the pics I posted close and you will see what I mean.

Actually, Camelbak will be sending me some complimentary buckles in the mail- just read the e-mail! Pretty happy about that!

I can see what you mean. I tinkered with a Blackhawk dropleg Serpa today and yeah, movement was kinda limited and it was REALLY uncomfortable and dug into my... uhhh... "Cash and Coins" if you catch my drift.

So it looks like I'm gonna have to re-think my setup. I initially wanted 4 rifle mags and 3 pistol mags (two on weak side, one on strong side near holster).Now I'm thinking- 2 double decker TACOs, 2 standard rifle TACOs on the left/weak side, obligatory 7/6 oclock dump pouch, 5 oclock FAK, 4 oclock admit pouch, etc. Do you think I'll have enough room for pistol holster, knife sheath (Benchmade Nimravus), flashlight holder, AND the aforementioned pistol TACO?

Figure out how many molle loops all that will take then look at your belt. You will run into problems if your running your pistol at the 3 and a Admin pouch at the 4. You do not want anything in the way of the pistol. But if your thiner then me your not going to fit all that on there.

In my experience your pistol will require at least four slots. I'm bigger then GD4 and I'm not sure I could get all that on my belt. I am going to set it up for the Zombie Fry and we will see how it runs with just fighting stuff.

[BullOnParade]

Dave had a thread recently on setting up tac vests, he said that since weak hand should be doing all movements and strong hand should be remaining on your firearm, all mags should be on the weak side of the vest to increase speed and reduce crossing the center line. Would this apply to belts as well?

[Dave_M]

Dave had a thread recently on setting up tac vests, he said that since weak hand should be doing all movements and strong hand should be remaining on your firearm, all mags should be on the weak side of the vest to increase speed and reduce crossing the center line. Would this apply to belts as well?

Yes, the same body mechanics apply to belts.

You can have some magazines mounted on the strong side but generally speaking primarily as back-fill magazines.

[Lucas_061287]

You can find the fastex buckles all over the place for cheap, if you wear the drop leg off the belt you will limit your movement if you wear the belt a little over your hips. Even with my safariland that was not a full drop leg it would bind up if I bent over at all. You could run it off your regular belt and free up the SGPB look at the pics I posted close and you will see what I mean.

Actually, Camelbak will be sending me some complimentary buckles in the mail- just read the e-mail! Pretty happy about that!

I can see what you mean. I tinkered with a Blackhawk dropleg Serpa today and yeah, movement was kinda limited and it was REALLY uncomfortable and dug into my... uhhh... "Cash and Coins" if you catch my drift.

So it looks like I'm gonna have to re-think my setup. I initially wanted 4 rifle mags and 3 pistol mags (two on weak side, one on strong side near holster).Now I'm thinking- 2 double decker TACOs, 2 standard rifle TACOs on the left/weak side, obligatory 7/6 oclock dump pouch, 5 oclock FAK, 4 oclock admit pouch, etc. Do you think I'll have enough room for pistol holster, knife sheath (Benchmade Nimravus), flashlight holder, AND the aforementioned pistol TACO?

Figure out how many molle loops all that will take then look at your belt. You will run into problems if your running your pistol at the 3 and a Admin pouch at the 4. You do not want anything in the way of the pistol. But if your thiner then me your not going to fit all that on there.

Well, don't have the belt yet (decided on the HSGI though, I thank you for the inspiration)
I really wish HSGI made a double decker rifle TACO, that would free up some space. I'll just have to tinker with it in person to figure out most of it, but I know the SERPA STRIKE MOLLE system takes up 4 slots, the FAK pouch I'm looking at takes up 3, the knife sheath takes 1, and I'm not sure but I think the BDS dump pouch takes 2 or 3. I'm sure with enough "hands on" I could produce a good setup. The thing is, I do NOT plan on setting up a vest of any sort unless I can get some SAPI plates, then I'll spring on a plate carrier and set it up as well.

Oh, and yeah I'm pretty small- 28-30 inch waist

[Lucas_061287]

Dave had a thread recently on setting up tac vests, he said that since weak hand should be doing all movements and strong hand should be remaining on your firearm, all mags should be on the weak side of the vest to increase speed and reduce crossing the center line. Would this apply to belts as well?

Yes, the same body mechanics apply to belts.

You can have some magazines mounted on the strong side but generally speaking primarily as back-fill magazines.

How do you feel about a single mag on strong side in case of the need for a one handed strong side reload?

[Murph]

Dave had a thread recently on setting up tac vests, he said that since weak hand should be doing all movements and strong hand should be remaining on your firearm, all mags should be on the weak side of the vest to increase speed and reduce crossing the center line. Would this apply to belts as well?

Yes, the same body mechanics apply to belts.

You can have some magazines mounted on the strong side but generally speaking primarily as back-fill magazines.

How do you feel about a single mag on strong side in case of the need for a one handed strong side reload?

Maybe you should start your own belt thread, Lucas_061287. It sounds like you have a lot of questions.

[gravediggerfour]

Dave had a thread recently on setting up tac vests, he said that since weak hand should be doing all movements and strong hand should be remaining on your firearm, all mags should be on the weak side of the vest to increase speed and reduce crossing the center line. Would this apply to belts as well?

Yes, the same body mechanics apply to belts.

You can have some magazines mounted on the strong side but generally speaking primarily as back-fill magazines.

How do you feel about a single mag on strong side in case of the need for a one handed strong side reload?

Maybe you should start your own belt thread, Lucas_061287. It sounds like you have a lot of questions.

I disagree I think this thread is the perfect place for belts..

[Lucas_061287]

Dave had a thread recently on setting up tac vests, he said that since weak hand should be doing all movements and strong hand should be remaining on your firearm, all mags should be on the weak side of the vest to increase speed and reduce crossing the center line. Would this apply to belts as well?

Yes, the same body mechanics apply to belts.

You can have some magazines mounted on the strong side but generally speaking primarily as back-fill magazines.

How do you feel about a single mag on strong side in case of the need for a one handed strong side reload?

Maybe you should start your own belt thread, Lucas_061287. It sounds like you have a lot of questions.

Thats just yet another thread for future inquiring minds to sift through to get the information they may seek. Besides, I'm sure these guys don't mind helping out. Its not like I've completely hijacked the whole thread with a bunch of stupid questions or something.

[gravediggerfour]

Adjusted my plate carrier to run just a little higher, I have since lowered the inserts so my mags set a little lower. Going to run the set up at the range tomorrow fully loaded and see how it works. I see a 100 meter sprint to a 9 hole drill in my future. Fully loaded I can carry 14 mags plus 5 pistol mags. Sorry for the shitty mirror pics. No comments about my attire..

[Lucas_061287]

Nice pics (and nice shorts ), really shows how much real estate is available. Mind if I ask what your waist size is?

Also- nice plate carrier too!

[gravediggerfour]

Nice pics (and nice shorts ), really shows how much real estate is available. Mind if I ask what your waist size is?

Also- nice plate carrier too!

32-34 waist size, are you saying you like my satch????

[Lucas_061287]

Ah okay, so you're a slim guy like me?

And yeah, your satch is pretty bitchin

[KnightoftheRoc]

Ah okay, so you're a slim guy like me?

And yeah, your satch is pretty bitchin

needs more sillcock...

[sigboy40]

Ah okay, so you're a slim guy like me?

And yeah, your satch is pretty bitchin

needs more sillcock...

There are no silcocks allowed in my thread. I don't find the joke humorous. Nor do I think that the topic even belongs in this thread.

I respectfully request that you post something about Belt rigs, either of the Scout or Battle variety, or get the fuck out of my goddamn thread.

[gravediggerfour]

Ah okay, so you're a slim guy like me?

And yeah, your satch is pretty bitchin

needs more sillcock...

There are no silcocks allowed in my thread. I don't find the joke humorous. Nor do I think that the topic even belongs in this thread.

I respectfully request that you post something about Belt rigs, either of the Scout or Battle variety, or get the fuck out of my goddamn thread.

Some one woke up on the wrong side of the Sigbed.

[sigboy40]

Ah okay, so you're a slim guy like me?

And yeah, your satch is pretty bitchin

needs more sillcock...

There are no silcocks allowed in my thread. I don't find the joke humorous. Nor do I think that the topic even belongs in this thread.

I respectfully request that you post something about Belt rigs, either of the Scout or Battle variety, or get the fuck out of my goddamn thread.

Some one woke up on the wrong side of the Sigbed.

Wait til you have kids.....


So is it time to rename this thread?

"All things Battle belt"

"Scout/Battle belt set up"

"Belt Rig Set up"

Any ideas?

[BullOnParade]

I vote "Scout/Battle Belt Set Up, It reduces the chances of someone missing it in search. Of course, that doesn't mean there wont be a duplicate thread in six months to a year from now.

Also ... I don't get the sillcock jokes
Is it an inside thing I'm missing out on, or is there something outside of plumbing ... Or maybe a firearm term I haven't come across? I don't mean to highjack, so please pm.

[TDW586]

Don't know if I posted this here yet, but hopefully this gets it back on topic a bit.

The belt is a Blue Force Gear SOC-C without armor inserts. Very comfortable, very nice padding. The suspenders are also Blue Force Gear. Right side is my Glock 35 in a Blade-Tech DOH/WRS. Just behind that is my FAK in a Maxpedition FR-1 on a Jones Tactical Tear away panel. Left side, you have a Blade-Tech double magazine pouch with the Tek-Lok dremeled out to fit on MOLLE loops, and next to that an ITW FastMag Gen III, and finally a Maxpedition medium RolyPoly dump pouch.

I'm making a few changes, replacing my ITW FastMags and the double pistol pouch with HSGI stacked rifle/pistol Tacos (so I'll be running two rifle and two pistol magazines) and replacing the FAK and panel with an ATS tear away FAK.

[Murphnuge]

Cool I ran a similar set up during my second tour in Iraq. I liked it way better than my ISAAK. I used the belt rig with adding stuff to my flak. It helped eliminate clutter on the belt.

[Whiskey Sierra]

GD4, Is that a Safariland 6280? I am debating between it and a 6285 with the 1.5 inch drop. How does your current holster work with your belt setup?

[gravediggerfour]

GD4, Is that a Safariland 6280? I am debating between it and a 6285 with the 1.5 inch drop. How does your current holster work with your belt setup?

works great, I dont know the model number off hand but it works better then I can work it.

[PWA2600]

Sigboy and GD4,

You gentlemen have inspired me to create my own Battle Belt/Survival Belt; so I purchased the Cobra Belt Riggers Belt, High Speed Low Drag Suspenders, and two Taco 5.56 pouches. I already had on hand two HSGI pistol pouches, and one Tactical Tailor Horizontal E&E pouch, and TT Horizontal Utility pouch. I attached the two TT pouches to two TAD Gear GPP2 pouches.

I have not completely finished filling/outfitting my belt, but have made a step in the right direction. Please view the photos and tell me what you think; I do not have the time right now to list everything, but hope the pictures speak for themselves.

Thank you.

Edit: I forgot to mention the Cobra belt is inside the HSGI Sure-Grip padded belt, and the center pouch is a Tactical Tailor, Multi-purpose pouch; this I use as a small butt pouch.