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Biggin wrote:Jerkying it would be a good plan too
Thomas Gallowglass wrote:Amoung the things I've learned in life are these two tidbits...
1) don't put trust into how politicians explain things
2) you are likely to bleed if you base your actions upon 'hope'...
Krustofski wrote:Two important things to consider BEFORE the power goes out:
- full freezers actually use less energy than empty freezers
- you can always use more water storage
Thus, if there's any free space in your freezer, pack it with water in Soda bottles. Leave a little room in the bottles so they don't burst while freezing. Havin a lot of ice in a well-isolated container like your freezer effectively makes it an ice box, and will keep it cool for days without power. Oh, and if you thouroughly clean the bottles and make sure to use clean water, you can so count that as water storage.

Jeriah wrote:I think we're all pretty much just bullshitting here, which is what the Internet is for. Besides porn.
mariposa wrote:and filed an insurance claim for the rest.
Krustofski wrote:mariposa wrote:and filed an insurance claim for the rest.
I actually never thought of that. If you've got a lot of expensive meat, that's certainly worth the hassle. I'll have to take a look at my insurance policy.
Killmoarzombies wrote:Jeriah wrote:Krustofski wrote:Two important things to consider BEFORE the power goes out:
- full freezers actually use less energy than empty freezers
- you can always use more water storage
Thus, if there's any free space in your freezer, pack it with water in Soda bottles. Leave a little room in the bottles so they don't burst while freezing. Havin a lot of ice in a well-isolated container like your freezer effectively makes it an ice box, and will keep it cool for days without power. Oh, and if you thouroughly clean the bottles and make sure to use clean water, you can so count that as water storage.
Good point, I do that too. We pull the ice bottles out of the freezer for road trips, to keep food cool. When they thaw we drink 'em. I had wondered if they help keep the freezer running w/ less energy, I don't know why or how that works but I kind of wondered it.[/quote]
It has to do with the specific heat of water being significantly more than that of air. I couldn't find a good value for air because it seems to change with pressure but it takes 5-10x more energy to heat water than it does air so the frozen water absorbs 5-10x more heat in your freezer allowing it to stay colder longer. Some where on here was a neat thread about someone who was talking about water walls being used to help heat and cool houses and thermal mass etc. Long story short: we should all be filling our freezers and fridges with water bottles to save energy anyway
AmirMortal wrote:I like the idea of spare ammo storage in those holes, but it would be more appealing if I wouldn't have to remove my butt pad.
Oneswunk wrote:Im going to come up with tactical yam powder... Millions I will make.![]()
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