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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:56 am

I had thought about the Vtac belt too but the HSGI was actually cheaper.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:27 pm

Heres a few pics I ripped from video of my range trip on friday.

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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:43 pm

So I got bored and scavanged the house for the sustainment pouch.

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FIRE: matches in waterproof container, lighter, fire steel, tinderbox w/lent soaked in petro jelly,

FOOD: 2 cliff bars , 2 GU packs (ditched one from photo)

First aid: SAM Splint cut in half, kerlex, alcohol pads/ wipes, cravat, gauze bandage (Blow out kit: trams shears, SOF tourniquet, izzy, gloves, kerlex)

Shelter: emergency blanket

Extras: 25 feet of 550 cord, small pliers/wire cutters, tape electrical/100mph, stripped down cleaning kit (patches, snake, brush, lube)

I ditched the hand sanitizer and saline, alcohol pads do the same as the hand sanitizer and I need a smaller bottle of saline. Need to also add a few meds, foot powder, extra pair of socks and some combat gauze.

Any other suggestions welcome!

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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Murphnuge » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:54 pm

GD4- how about a multi-tool? Also, I didn't see any water/ability to carry water in the list or pix. The one I put together and carried in the Corps was just a belt kit. I also had a Blachawk ISAAK system, basically the same as y'all's kit that I had an SOE camelbak pouch attached to the suspender straps.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:00 pm

Murphnuge wrote:GD4- how about a multi-tool? Also, I didn't see any water/ability to carry water in the list or pix. The one I put together and carried in the Corps was just a belt kit. I also had a Blachawk ISAAK system, basically the same as y'all's kit that I had an SOE camelbak pouch attached to the suspender straps.


I plan on getting one of the new MUT's, the water thing is up in the air right now. I must have some sort of filtration in the hydration system, and I need a silcock key.

I want a way to attach it right to the suspenders but detachable from it so it wont get in the way once I get the Plate carrier on. Which I haven't tried yet BTW I think I have the belt too high to wear with the plate carrier which with a little adjustment I think I could how ever we will see..
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby sigboy40 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:35 am

gravediggerfour wrote: and I need a silcock key.



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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:16 pm

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gravediggerfour wrote: and I need a silcock key.



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What? What?
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby sigboy40 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:30 pm

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gravediggerfour wrote: and I need a silcock key.



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What? What?


I saw what you did there.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:33 pm

I hope ya'all don't mind, but I'm going to steal some of your ideas for my scout belt. Both look great. I really like this idea.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:47 pm

I think that we should call it a SOB from now on since its a combination of a bug out belt and scout belt= Scout out belt SOB!
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Big B » Wed May 11, 2011 11:39 pm

gravediggerfour wrote:Well here is my set up (pre range) which is why none of my straps are taped. All I need to do is stuff the big pouch and throw my IFAK back together. I have no idea how much it will weigh but its got some heft to it topped off with mags.

HSGI sure grip padded belt, 3x r/p taco's, HSGI IFAK, Marz Combat medic pouch(24 hr kit), HSGI frag pouch (compass/gps) Safariland holster and maxpidition dump pouch.

I'm pumping this up to ask a couple of questions about your gear GD4...

How are you liking that Marz pouch? Any complaints? I have a TT E&E pouch on the back of my belt loaded as a mini survival kit, but I've been thinking about replacing it with one of these Marz pouches.

Does the HSGI frag pouch work well at holding your GPS? I've been looking for a better way to carry my Garmin when hunting/hiking.

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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Thu May 12, 2011 5:23 pm

Big B wrote:
gravediggerfour wrote:Well here is my set up (pre range) which is why none of my straps are taped. All I need to do is stuff the big pouch and throw my IFAK back together. I have no idea how much it will weigh but its got some heft to it topped off with mags.

HSGI sure grip padded belt, 3x r/p taco's, HSGI IFAK, Marz Combat medic pouch(24 hr kit), HSGI frag pouch (compass/gps) Safariland holster and maxpidition dump pouch.

I'm pumping this up to ask a couple of questions about your gear GD4...

How are you liking that Marz pouch? Any complaints? Pouch is awesome, the mags set really deep behind the pouch but they are hard to get to anyway on my back. You can cram a pretty good amount in it and organize is pretty well with the loops and the mesh. The "drawbridge" opening is nice since I can open it with it on my back and dig through it with one hand pretty goood and not have shit fall out. I have a TT E&E pouch on the back of my belt loaded as a mini survival kit, but I've been thinking about replacing it with one of these Marz pouches.

Does the HSGI frag pouch work well at holding your GPS? It holds my compass just fine, I'm in between GPS's now but I think a Etrex would be a tight fit. I've been looking for a better way to carry my Garmin when hunting/hiking.

Thanks :)
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Lucas_061287 » Thu May 12, 2011 9:13 pm

Great thread guys. I was reading it the other day and it lit a fire under my ass to get a belt setup started.

So today I snagged one of these...

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... and will be getting one of these...

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... of course, I'll add the obligitory HSGI TACO's, dump pouch, various pouches, etc.


My question is- how do I attach the Camelbak to the Brokos belt?
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Thu May 12, 2011 9:17 pm

I would use the Camelback as the suspenders, make it a self contained system, I have been debating about doing this myself...
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Dave_M » Thu May 12, 2011 9:21 pm

Going back and forth between the new HSGI and the VTAC. I need a new belt. Honestly, I should just flip a coin.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Thu May 12, 2011 9:24 pm

Dave_M wrote:Going back and forth between the new HSGI and the VTAC. I need a new belt. Honestly, I should just flip a coin.


Well the belt in the HSGI one is a pain in the ass, you thought putting taco's on was a bitch... the belt is a pain in the ass to set up. But I dont think you could go wrong either way, except for the life time warranty thing..
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Lucas_061287 » Thu May 12, 2011 9:26 pm

That and the cost of the VTAC vs. the HSGI. I'm pretty impressed with all of my VTAC/5.11 gear thus far though.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Thu May 12, 2011 9:28 pm

Lucas_061287 wrote:That and the cost of the VTAC vs. the HSGI. I'm pretty impressed with all of my VTAC/5.11 gear thus far though.



HSGI is cheaper..?
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Lucas_061287 » Thu May 12, 2011 9:34 pm

^Yep. The VTAC is like $100 :shock:. But it seems pretty damn spiffy.

Also, how are you planning to run the suspenders on your Camelbak to your belt? I'm looking at mine and figure the rear loops can be attached to the rear of the belt with relative ease, but what about the front?
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Lucas_061287 » Fri May 13, 2011 2:31 am

Okay, decided I'm going to run the HSGI belt. The price is right and it will work better for my planned setup (two belt mounted HSGI min dropleg panels- one for pistol holster, one for 2 pistol mags)
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Fri May 13, 2011 6:46 am

I’m going to ignore the fact you mentioned drop leg in this thread. There are multiple shops in the K-town area that will sew stuff for you, that is what HSGI told me to do when I talked to them about my suspenders being too long.

You should just mount the pistol on the belt or something that hangs off the belt just a little bit. Trust me.

I’m going to email HSGI today about how I want to "attach" the camelback and I’ll let you know what they say.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby sigboy40 » Fri May 13, 2011 7:25 am

Lucas_061287 wrote:^Yep. The VTAC is like $100 :shock:. But it seems pretty damn spiffy.

Also, how are you planning to run the suspenders on your Camelbak to your belt? I'm looking at mine and figure the rear loops can be attached to the rear of the belt with relative ease, but what about the front?


I would take advantage of the buckles on the front of your Camelback. Go find two more buckles and some 1" webing that will work with the Camelbak. Attach the bottom half of the strap to the rear of your belt. Take the top half of the buckle, attach more webbing and run that down to the front of your belt.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby Lucas_061287 » Fri May 13, 2011 12:37 pm

gravediggerfour wrote:I’m going to ignore the fact you mentioned drop leg in this thread. There are multiple shops in the K-town area that will sew stuff for you, that is what HSGI told me to do when I talked to them about my suspenders being too long.

You should just mount the pistol on the belt or something that hangs off the belt just a little bit. Trust me.

I’m going to email HSGI today about how I want to "attach" the camelback and I’ll let you know what they say.


Well, the way I want to run this, I'm just not gonna have much room on my belt (partly because my waist is so smal). The dropleg thing isn't really in stone yet, but seems like something I could learn to like.

But yeah, keep me posted.

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I e-mailed Camelbak about getting some extra buckles. Thanks for the tip! Seems like a great idea.
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Re: Sigboy Scout Belt

Postby gravediggerfour » Fri May 13, 2011 2:01 pm

You can find the fastex buckles all over the place for cheap, if you wear the drop leg off the belt you will limit your movement if you wear the belt a little over your hips. Even with my safariland that was not a full drop leg it would bind up if I bent over at all. You could run it off your regular belt and free up the SGPB look at the pics I posted close and you will see what I mean.
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