Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Blacksmith » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:26 pm

LOL, those renderings are for million-dollar homes. If you have that kind of cash, more power to you. Hire round the clock uniformed security while you're at it.


For the record I have seen plenty of houses that style, nicer than that for under $300K in decent neighborhoods too. I don't know if you could build one that cheap, that is just how bad the market is right now.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Rev » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:00 pm

I believe the large courtyard style houses from the southwest had extended families living in them. In fact most of the old style defensive houses from across the world were this way. If I remember correctly the Chinese took the concept of communal housing for the purpose of defense a bit far.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujian_Tulou
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby ........ » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:51 pm



Love wiki, lots on tower keeps, tower houses, and more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastle_house
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby ........ » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:30 pm

Sorry for the double post but look what I just found! Modern day castle plans! Solves all your problems in one step.

http://www.houseplans.com/7421-square-f ... 2829727%29
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Launchteam1 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:06 pm

How about an Earth Home that has a tower that rises out of the middle? Gives the benefits of earth home plus the view and security of 360 degrees of sight. (Tower would be something like 20 feet plus with no windows till 12 feet up and no doors. Access would be from inside the earth home only.) :D
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby KarLorian » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:56 am

Lord Bane wrote:Sorry for the double post but look what I just found! Modern day castle plans! Solves all your problems in one step.

http://www.houseplans.com/7421-square-f ... 2829727%29


My ONLY problem with that plan is that there is no basement.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Blacksmith » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:35 am

If you are going to go to all the trouble of building one, just buy one. You can't build it that cheap:

http://www.castles-for-sale.com/sale/So ... /index.htm

10,000 sqft with moat and 70 acre estate in FL only $2.5 million. A steal really.

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Berkley, WV $1.8 M

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Want to live overseas? This one is huge for $1.8M. Looks like ZS new world HQs.

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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Bad Penny 08 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:54 am

Want to live overseas? This one is huge for $1.8M. Looks like ZS new world HQs.


I bet the property taxes and insurance would be a deal killer for me.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Paladin1 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:40 pm

On the earth sheltered homes, like many things the tech has advanced and water leaking in is not really an issue anymore.

When you say blind on three sides and people on the roof, well the first thing is I won't be "blind" as my plans account for visibility in all directions. And if someones on the roof, what are they going to do? Get a shovel and dig through 5' of compacted earth and then drill through steel reinforced concrete a foot+ thick?

Given enough time and resources any house can be breached. It's a matter of making a less than ideal target. Landscaping can both limit access and funnel movement. Reinforced and secure doors and windows, alarm system, dog, etc are all steps you can take.

I don't want to live in a bunker, Earth sheltered homes have come along way from when hippies and survivalists built them in the '70's.

Just to be clear, I'm not building a earth sheltered home because I'm preparing for a nuclear blast. There are many reasons to do it, security is just one.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Cybrludite » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:09 am

Vicarious_Lee wrote:I read this thread as "Tactical House Plants", and while I'm not disappointed that it's something else, I'm about to start searching ZS for Tactical House Plants, because I know that search will be fruitful.




and spiky. :lol:

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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby ........ » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:56 pm

While looking for property in Los Angeles I found this house:
http://www.constructiondigital.com/mark ... r-overkill

Built by the CEO of this company and his concepts of safe 'cores' rather than panic rooms. http://safe-us.com/joomla/about/safe-core-vs-safe-room

And just for fun, a libertarian tax evaders home:
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And why build a walk out basement when you can build a bridge to the high ground. Moat anybody?
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Ducky » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:01 am

Just thought i would throw in my 2c.
When i moved into my house I didnt think anythign about the layout in a tactiacl sense.
After looking at it for a while i really like it.
The hall bathroom has a small window that looks at the front door. and the front railing is beffy enough that someone has to come up the sidewalk.
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If need be I can flip the table up and secure it to window B.
I can also easily block off doorway D with furniture.
By doing this it impeads the forward movement of the bad guys. giving me more time to shoot the piss out of them.

It seems that this front door setup would be easy to incorporate into any house plan.
Also whe i build my next house I am going to build it using ICF construction.
ICF uses concret insted of wood and the walls are a solid 6-8" of concrete.
This makes the walls extreamly energy eficient, Bulet proof, Fireproof, huricane,tornado..... ect...
they may cost a little more in the begining but if your going to build a house might as well do it right.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Bad Penny 08 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:08 am

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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby huntingohio » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:53 pm

I took a few drafting classes in highschool, but unfortunately im a lazy fucker and dont wanna get out the scale and go at it.

My take on a defenseable homestead [please quit using the t word] . Ideally a 2 story home. The bottom level with no windows and 2 entry points. It would be a garage/basement, with the entry points being staircases to get to the "living" level. The staircases would create a "funnel" giving you an advantage if mutiple attackers are coming. The entry doors to the top levels should be reinforced in swinging doors that can be barred [ie braced with 2x4s]. Windows on the top level would be 9-10feet of the ground, although for my dallor id add some kind of fire escape too since jumping could hurt from that height. The "core room" of the house [id prefere a bathroom], should have reenforcement in the wall. My first thought would be something like a steel mesh under concrete backerboard, then drywall, and of course some serious doors.
All the main utilities should primarily be on the upper "living level" [like your water shut off and power shut off].

Now on actual construction materials, brick or block would be less suceptable to setting fire to, and offer better safety as far as rounds being shot at your house.
A good fence would serve well, I dont know much about fences.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Tater Raider » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:34 am

Just get a quonset hut, pour a slab, build it, then bury it and you are tactical, defensible, cheap, and you have a hill to sled on during the winter.
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Or do the same with a concrete monolithic dome like Suizen suggested.
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You can also get some bullet resistance from a log cabin depending on the size of the bullet, the size of the logs, and construction methods.
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Building in a fire area/forest? Put in a fire watch tower that doubles as a play house for the kids.
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Or combine them in stages. Build the cabin, then put in the hut for a garage/storm shelter/fallout shelter, then put up the fire tower and you are set. Or whatever.

Personally I'd go with any old house, put in a panic room, and have someone from a reputable security company get me the low-down on hooking me into the alarm system best suited for my needs and level of paranoia. :D


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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby ei8htx » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:13 pm

TR wrote: quonset

for some reason hat word makes m mouth water.

Anyway, it sounds like a pretty good idea.
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby EndOfTheRoad » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:41 pm

We just finished our Quonset hut home this year. Moved in June. I know this is an old thread but if anybody is interested in this topic, I can elaborate. We did not bury the quonset but plan on having a green roof. The quonset hut goes up quick with just minimal people. Wife and I built it. It's 30x50 with a 20x30 basement. Have the slab poured, and erect the hut. Build end walls and you got a building. Its pretty quick really and cost effective for what you get versus stick built houses.

Quonset hut .. love it.

Here is a video of before we finished it during construction. From breaking ground til move in was 15 months and we did all the work except foundation.

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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Tactecsoldya » Fri May 11, 2012 5:46 pm

U can incorporate tactical measures n any floor plan some r better than others first the more open the floor plan is the better fences on exterior should b where u can seethrew them and tall enough where they can not b scaled easily preferably spikes or barber wire or n third world country's they even use glass which is cheap and effective it has to b far enough from the home where an intruder can't jump from the top of the fence to the house tho multiple story homes r better cause u will always b holding the high ground that way n these type homes an open loft style design is best so u can see the down stairs from the top with the addition of bullet proof glass to the lower floors at least or at a very least small enough windows where the intruder would have a hard time crawling threw without busting the hole window fram and all out I saw sum windows at home depot that wer 10" by three feet it would take a very thin person to slip threw just a thought and another good thought is steel shutters on the inside of the window so even if they get threw the window there is no access a sunk n door with windows preferably bullet proof on eather side of the door is good also so u can see the person or persons at the door before u open it u can then do a visual check to see if the have weapons I agree that video is the way to go but u also have to think n terms of a black out or loss of electrical power me and my father before he passed away had a carpentry business and we built a bunch of upper ended homes for doctors and lawyers built safe rooms and tactical homes and me and my brother r ex military so I no what I am talking about u also as an after thought can buy rolls of Kevlar from du pont or for the bullet proof glass we found a guy n new Mexico that was demoing some banks and we got the glass from the teller and drive threw windows hope this helps everyone concerned
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Re: Question of Curiosity - Tactical House Plans?

Postby Tater Raider » Sat May 12, 2012 7:38 am

Also, since you want a tower so very badly, and towers are a lot of things but they are not tornado proof, go with a regular house with a basement - it's not unusual and can resale much, much easier. Next, on the highest ground on the property build a old fashioned grain silo, as tall as you can get away with, and put a walkway around the top of this. Put another silo or 2 next to this, though shorter, for use as an actual grain storage device for your stockpiling. Then put a smallish barn next to this.

Make sure that tall silo can be used for actual grain storage to conceal it's actual purpose when your kids go to resell the property.
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