I totally agree. I always knock off 20 off the rating on a bag maybe a little much but I like to be sure. I will be sporting a 0 rubber bottomed bag with a 20 bag inside, thick fleece liner. padding top down: blue pad(maybe 2)wrapped in a space blanket wrapped in fleece wrapped in double layer of quilted fiber filled material with a poly canvas mat under that, on the floor of tent I will have a tarp blanket, then a ground cover under tent. Also thinking about some fux fur I have laying around for floor( I have a fabric store worth of material). Trying to do it with out getting to much more gear as I had to get a new tent. Do you think this is adequate. What would you add? What is everyones options on "air pads/ mattress" for winter camping? I thought it would make you colder as its harder to warm up the air in them. I will also have a heater, but thats not going to help the cold from seeping up from the ground and I'm a cold sleeper.
I do understand that I am responsible for my friends safety and comfort and if need be take them home , If I don't think their gear is adequate I will give them gear, make them get gear, or not let them come. I will not risk anyones life for the sake of fun and they know if I'm out they are out. I am already making a list for them to make sure they have the right clothing + spares. And again I will take all tips on getting ready and will not take offense to if some say, or everyone says no to my bringing them.
edit: with your permission Rick I would like to print out your post and stick it on the frig so everyone can read it.
edit again: pad set up is about 3" thick will compress some.
this is the pad set up. And if the SHTF might have to make do with whats on hand what a better way to test it.