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Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:25 pm

Back in late July 2010 I was at my local home brewing store picking up supplies when I saw they also had cheese making supplies. A short inquiry and $25 later I walk out with a starter kit. A quick run to the store to pick up 2 gallons of milk and away I go.

Basic ingredients:

2 Gallons of Milk (not pictured)
Renet Tablets
Mesophilic and Thermophilic cheese cultures
Calcium Chloride.

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So we pour all of the milk into a cleaned out brew pot and bring up to temperature.
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With the help of some dainty hands pour in the mesophilic starter and calcium chloride. The calcium chloride isn't really always needed, just as a boost really for processed milk. Being my first cheese making experiment I figure why not.

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Allow this all to set up until it forms into curds. Once the milk has congealed some begin to cut into squares. At this point my entire house smelled like warm cottage cheese. You may or may not like that smell as it is also very close to spoiled milk.

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Continue heating the curds until they begin to seperate from the whey.

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Now we pour it all into a colander lined with a cheese cloth.
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At this point it looks fairly disgusting.

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Now the cheese cloth is pulled around it and the whey is allowed to drain out for about an hour.
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The cheese ball is then pulled apart in a ball and a little salt added for flavor and to help stop any bad stuff from growing.
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Then into a cheese mold lined with more cheese cloth and weights put on it to help form it into a block and press out more whey.
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Over the next couple of days the block is flipped several times and the weight increased until finally a nice solid dy block of cheese is formed.

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After several days of aging and sitting on a shelf the cheese is ready to be waxed. Safety note, always melt any kind of wax in a double boiler. Wax fumes can ignite and it probably isn't fun.
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Here you can see the first coat of wax and my homemade cheese dipping tool.
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Here is the final coat of wax and a label. I poured the leftover wax into an old PB jar to use later.
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Fast forward a month of aging, flipping and kitchen renovations add one sharp knife and this is what you get.
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Add to that a homegrown pepper, some homebrewed beer and locally made pastrami and its a pretty good night in (I bought the wheat thins).
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Closing thoughts. The kit contains enough ingredients to make something like 20 batches of cheese. This block of cheese weighs over 2 lbs. Depending what milk costs that means you can make your own cheese for about $3 per lb. Economics aside what you save in money you more than pay for in time. Just the initial process of making curds takes literally hours. Not to mention the constant rotating, pressing and aging times. That said it is a really neat process and you can make a lot of different kinds of cheese, some take only a few hours to prepare and eat, others can take years of aging. In the end how did it taste... I felt that it was pretty good, could maybe use another month of aging as it tasted a bit young. But overall a good first time of what I am sure will be many more.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby phalanx » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:35 pm

Dang! Cool as hell dude.

What "Kind" of cheese did you end up with? Was it hard or soft?
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby BigDaddyTX » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:14 pm

Is there potential to make other kinds of cheese with the kit?
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Jeriah » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:32 pm

BigDaddyTX wrote:Is there potential to make other kinds of cheese with the kit?


EeeNinja wrote:That said it is a really neat process and you can make a lot of different kinds of cheese, some take only a few hours to prepare and eat, others can take years of aging.


I think this means yes? Unless you need a different kit?
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby BigDaddyTX » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:52 pm

Jeriah wrote:
BigDaddyTX wrote:Is there potential to make other kinds of cheese with the kit?


EeeNinja wrote:That said it is a really neat process and you can make a lot of different kinds of cheese, some take only a few hours to prepare and eat, others can take years of aging.


I think this means yes? Unless you need a different kit?

:oops: I guess it I missed that.

So as a follow up, what is the process like for a different kind of cheese? It just seems fairly straightforward to add the tablet to milk, how would one go about making a different kind with regular cows milk?
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Sckitzo » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:07 am

Very cool, very cool indeed!
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby BigDaddyTX » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:13 am

After doing a little research, I found this site which I think is pretty comprehensive. I love cheese, so I've got some buying to do and them some experimenting.

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Fankhauser/Cheese/Cheese.html
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby KnightoftheRoc » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:40 am

Great link! Thanks for putting that up- I bookmarked it for perusal again and again.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:41 am

Hello,

Yes you can make multiple kinds of cheese with the kit I bought. Basically there are only two kinds of cheese in the world, hard cheese and soft cheeses. While some kind of fall in the middle as far as their actual texture the process is either a "hard cheese process" or a "soft cheese process". The kit I bought only does hard types of cheese such as gouda, colby, monteray jack. Cheeses such as mozerellas and ricottas are a different process and ingredients all together.

I made a cheddar, particularly what is called a farmhouse cheddar. It is artisanal in nature hence the rough edges on the cheese. It is not as smooth and consistent as a store bought cheddar but it tastes every bit as sharp. The farmhouse cheddar process basically requires less pressure and a shorter aging process than a real cheddar which is why I chose it as my first cheese to make. I felt it was worth the effort and a fun process to learn how to do.

To make different kinds of hard cheeses you mostly just vary things like cooking times, aging times and which cheese culture you use. But other than that the same basic process of heating and pressing remains.

I bought the cheese kit from here: http://microbebrewerssupply.com/
But for those not in the area you can order everything you need from here: http://www.cheesemaking.com/
I want to get a couple of cheeses going before I leave for a trip to scotland. That way I won't be as tempted to open them and eat them if I don't have direct access to them.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby KnightoftheRoc » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:57 am

I have heard that with yeasts, once you get a culture up and running, you can continue to draw from it for more of the same, as it were. Adding 'food' for it is needed, of course- you can't get something for nothing. Once you get the cheese culture "up and running", can it be used to start the process in other batches, or what? I'm looking at buying a farm, and plan on goats, so I'm very interested in just what is involved with the potential products my farm could produce. And, on that note, do you plan on doing a batch with goat milk? I'd be interested in seeing/hearing how that turns out, and what learning experiences turn up as you learn the processes.

Great post, btw- thanks!
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:44 am

KnightoftheRoc wrote:I have heard that with yeasts, once you get a culture up and running, you can continue to draw from it for more of the same, as it were. Adding 'food' for it is needed, of course- you can't get something for nothing. Once you get the cheese culture "up and running", can it be used to start the process in other batches, or what? I'm looking at buying a farm, and plan on goats, so I'm very interested in just what is involved with the potential products my farm could produce. And, on that note, do you plan on doing a batch with goat milk? I'd be interested in seeing/hearing how that turns out, and what learning experiences turn up as you learn the processes.


A few years ago I had a couple of goats on the pretense of having my own goats milk. Suffices to say that project ended up as goat curry. So I hope you have better luck than I did... or than the goats did for that matter.

You can keep yeast and bacterial cultures alive by feeding them nutrients and then use them as starters for continuing batches of whatever it is you are making. Things like yogurt and kifir are really easy to make like that. And those cultures can be used to make other types of cheese too. In fact some strains of yeast for beer that are hard to come by or very expensive the best way to get them is to culture them from a bottle that still has active yeast inside.

Goat cheese is on my list of things to try out. But I have friends who own a creamery in VT (http://www.vermontcreamery.com) so I always have lots of that around.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby offcamber » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:00 am

Funny you posted this up, my wife tried her hand at making mozzarella this weekend! We had some trouble though because we bought the wrong type of milk (I didn't know what ultra-pasteurized milk was until yesterday, lol). You also can't use chlorinated water either for those city dwellers who may want to give it a go.

Anyway, maybe I'll post up some pics of our stuff as well. Its not as pretty as yours, though.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:45 am

offcamber wrote:Funny you posted this up, my wife tried her hand at making mozzarella this weekend! We had some trouble though because we bought the wrong type of milk (I didn't know what ultra-pasteurized milk was until yesterday, lol). You also can't use chlorinated water either for those city dwellers who may want to give it a go.

Anyway, maybe I'll post up some pics of our stuff as well. Its not as pretty as yours, though.



I should have mentioned that. Ultra-Pasteurized, UHT, shelf milk, Parmalat, or anything like that cannot be used to create cheese. I have read that the best milk to use is raw milk as it still has a lot of active nutrients still in it. But that can be hard to get depending where you live as raw milk is still illegal to sell in some states despite the arguments for it. Next best up is whole milk from a local dairy with the freshest batch possible. I wanted to use Hatchland Dairy milk which is a large producer in NH, couldn't find that so I went looking for Stonewall farm milk, couldn't find that. In the end I settled on two gallons Oakhurst whole milk.

Mozzarella had some interesting steps to making it and I do want to try that out, but I don't have the ingredients right now. I have seen recipes that use only citric acid, renet, dry milk (that has been reconstituted) and some heavy cream. It looked pretty straight forward.

Water with too much of any kind of additives is bad for just about anything that you are trying to grow. Be it beer, cheese, plants or yourself.

Throw up some pictures I'd like to see them.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:47 pm

So I spent the last 48 hours in a cheese making frenzy.

All three are colby, all three are slight variations of the recipe. All three use 1 gallon of whole milk and two of them had 2 cups of heavy cream added to them.

The far left cheese is is 1 Gallon of fresh milk right from a local dairy. The middle one is Oakhurst milk from the grocery store, my press fell over in the night from the weight which is why it looks lopsided. The third one is Oakhurst again but this one had no heavy cream added to it which I account for the difference in cheese yield. The mottled color of the two on the left is from the drying/rind process. In this picture the middle one is about 48 hours, the far left is 36 hours and the far right is 24 hours old.


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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Dogan » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:50 pm

Bloody hell that's awesome!
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby whisk.e.rebellion » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:07 pm

Very cool, but what did you do with the whey?

I made Paneer (Indian cheese) a while back and saved the whey to use in place of water when baking bread. The whey didn't affect the flavor of the bread, but added a ton of nutrients.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:48 am

whisk.e.rebellion wrote:Very cool, but what did you do with the whey?

I made Paneer (Indian cheese) a while back and saved the whey to use in place of water when baking bread. The whey didn't affect the flavor of the bread, but added a ton of nutrients.



Right now composting it, like you said it is nutrient rich so the compost pile loves it. Left over mash from my beer brewing efforts go in there as well. Fall is coming and its getting cold out so the composting will start to take a back seat. I do want to start using both the whey and grains in baking bread. But I broke my oven while doing some kitchen renovations so I need to get that fixed first. Suppose I could try it on the grill.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:42 pm

Latest addition. Habanero/Scotch Bonet Jack on the left and Monterey Jack on the right. Those blocks are about 6.5" in diameter and 4.5 inches tall. They weigh close to 5lbs each and were made with 2 gallons of milk each and buttermilk as a starter culture.

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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Electricity » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:25 pm

Very very cool! I tried making cheese once, it didn't come out very well.. the hardest part for me was finding the rennet.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:01 am

Electricity wrote:Very very cool! I tried making cheese once, it didn't come out very well.. the hardest part for me was finding the rennet.


I am fortunate enough to be able to buy mine locally. But you can order kits from the internet. http://www.cheesemaking.com/

http://www.cheesemaking.com/store/p/109 ... blets.html

20 tablets is enough to set up like 80 gallons of milk. That's a lot of cheese. If my yields stay as high as my last batch that would be well over 100lbs of cheese..... mmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Jephrey » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:56 am

Very interesting post for me. I've never made cheese before and now seeing the process, I think I'll give it a go.

How did the Habañero/Scotch Bonnet Jack fare? I love spicy cheeses. Seems like a nice slice of that over a bison burger would be spectacular!
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Electricity » Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:50 pm

Jephrey wrote:Very interesting post for me. I've never made cheese before and now seeing the process, I think I'll give it a go.

How did the Habañero/Scotch Bonnet Jack fare? I love spicy cheeses. Seems like a nice slice of that over a bison burger would be spectacular!

Ohhhh! That sounds amazing!
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby EeeNinja » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:00 pm

Jephrey wrote:Very interesting post for me. I've never made cheese before and now seeing the process, I think I'll give it a go.

How did the Habañero/Scotch Bonnet Jack fare? I love spicy cheeses. Seems like a nice slice of that over a bison burger would be spectacular!


It's really REALLY easy to do. If you can cook anything and have 4-6 hours to kill you don't have much to lose but a couple of gallons of milk.

I tried some of the pressed Hab Jack and it was quite good. I let the curds soak in the water I used to boil the peppers in so the flavor went right into the cheese. I'll be waxing those two tonight as they have dried out enough and a nice rind has formed. They should be fully aged around Jan/Feb or so.

I am toying with the idea of opening one of the Colby's tonight to try. I marked them as "Try on Nov 1" but they will be fully aged in around the end of Dec or so.
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Re: Cutting the cheese (56k no bueno)

Postby Electricity » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:11 pm

EeeNinja wrote:
I am toying with the idea of opening one of the Colby's tonight to try. I marked them as "Try on Nov 1" but they will be fully aged in around the end of Dec or so.

Make sure you post pictures when you do.
The only one I'd be worried about is the one you didn't add heavy cream to. It looks very similar to my one attempt that failed.
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