using a dog to lick your wounds...

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Postby kyle » Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:16 am

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Ashemaru wrote:Here's another link debunking the myth.

I don't read anything about.com puts out :P

Here's some evidence-backed ambiguity from Straightdope.com


http://www.snopes.com is another good one. They were one of the original online databases of myth debunkers.
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Postby TheBlunderbuss » Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:37 pm

kyle wrote:http://www.snopes.com is another good one. They were one of the original online databases of myth debunkers.

Indeed, except Snopes currently doesn't have anything on dogs licking wounds.
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Postby zombievt » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:07 am

redrevolt wrote:In my W-EMT Class, we learned that you can use your own urine to clean wounds. Your urine is sterile unless you've ever had a bladder/kidney/UT infection.



Now this I've heard of before.
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Postby Flashbang_E4T » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:11 am

That is correct. If the person providing the urine is sick it may not be a good idea but otherwise its ok to use. Itll sting like a bitch though due to the mineral (mainly salt) content.
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Postby ZombieCleaner » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:00 pm

Ive only heard of urine working for jelly fish stings, or vinegar. I dont think letting a dog lick your wounds it a good idea. However, putting maggots, or leeches on the would will help. Its a scientific fact. The leeches suck out and bad blood and the maggots eat away any dead, decaying or bad flesh.
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Postby kyle » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:03 pm

ZombieCleaner wrote:Ive only heard of urine working for jelly fish stings, or vinegar. I dont think letting a dog lick your wounds it a good idea. However, putting maggots, or leeches on the would will help. Its a scientific fact. The leeches suck out and bad blood and the maggots eat away any dead, decaying or bad flesh.


It greatly depends on the species of maggots and/or leeches and how they are cultivated. Grabbing any of maggot or leech from the wild and sticking it to a wound will probably get you a nasty infecton and make it much worse.
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Postby Flashbang_E4T » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:04 pm

ZombieCleaner wrote:Ive only heard of urine working for jelly fish stings, or vinegar. I dont think letting a dog lick your wounds it a good idea. However, putting maggots, or leeches on the would will help. Its a scientific fact. The leeches suck out and bad blood and the maggots eat away any dead, decaying or bad flesh.


Not to be a dick, but more accurately its a scientific fact that leach's dont do a damn beneficial thing, and can only sap your power while threatening to spread disease to you. Thats why we stopped bleeding people to cure them 150 years ago. Moggots on the other hand can be useful to eat away the debrid a wound. It will hurt a bit but they only like to munch on dead flesh.
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Postby bigred7070 » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:06 pm

Not to be a dick, but more accurately its a scientific fact that leach's dont do a damn beneficial thing, and can only sap your power while threatening to spread disease to you. Thats why we stopped bleeding people to cure them 150 years ago.


Not to be an uber-dick, but we have been using leeches in modern medicine for a few years now. They are used when a limb or digit is reattached and any excess blood that pools from leaky veins collects and needs to be removed before it clots. No offense flashbang but you throw out a lot of shit without researching it first, IMHO.
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Postby ZombieCleaner » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:05 pm

Lets not start a flame war...thats what got me the asshat titles not to long ago.
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Postby bgaesop » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:39 pm

Also, you're both right! Leeches are used in modern medicine to bleed off excess blood and other fluids in wounds where it is building up, but they do not take out "bad blood" and they are not used very often.
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Postby TheBlunderbuss » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:39 pm

It is SO HARD to find laboratory leeches for sale on the internet.
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Postby Shai'tan » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:05 pm

All that being said, I still rather use something like vodka or isopropanol to disinfect a wound. I'd take my chances rather than letting a wound get urinated or salivated on (even if it was by those animals that have saliva with healing properties).
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Postby Donny_Cash » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:35 pm

I think I will stick to my med kit.
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Postby Flashbang_E4T » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:17 am

bigred7070 wrote:Not to be an uber-dick, but we have been using leeches in modern medicine for a few years now. They are used when a limb or digit is reattached and any excess blood that pools from leaky veins collects and needs to be removed before it clots. No offense flashbang but you throw out a lot of shit without researching it first, IMHO.


You cannot be construed as an a dick of any varying quantity if you are calling me an an apparently ignorant remark I made. You are apparently correct that they have been known to be used in modern medicine. However I think it important to point out that it appears that their use is more fringe medicine and far from standard practice. Another important point is the same leaches used today are not plucked from the local marsh and thrown on a patient as they would have to be in the PAW thus most likely negating their benefit through threat of disease. That and I was correct that we do not bleed people to cure then anymore as leaches (AFAIK) were used a century ago to do.
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Postby bigred7070 » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:03 pm

Another important point is the same leaches used today are not plucked from the local marsh and thrown on a patient as they would have to be in the PAW thus most likely negating their benefit through threat of disease. That and I was correct that we do not bleed people to cure then anymore as leaches (AFAIK) were used a century ago to do.


Point taken. I certainly wouldn't be using wild leeches. They might have rabies. :wink:
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Postby frostbyte » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:29 am

I would like to interject here that maggots do not only eat dead flesh and if any fresh blood is found in the wound area after using maggots to eat dead flesh then the wound needs to be cleaned often and checked for maggots before redressing the wound.

The best way that I know of to cultivate a supply of maggots is to first expose the wound to flies and then cover with a bandage, checking every day for maggots until they hatch.

to be sure, I believe this method should only be used as a last resort.
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Postby frostbyte » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:31 am

oh, and having been a vet assistant, I would not suggest letting a dog lick your wounds.
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Postby TheBlunderbuss » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:33 am

There have also been many cases of live maggots in someone's wounds, in their vagina, and in their brain.
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Postby frostbyte » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:43 am

as for animal/human contact, this is a good website to look at.

http://research.ucsb.edu/connect/pro/disease.html

it gives a good idea of who carries what and to whom it can be transfered.
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