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"wild meat" in the city

Post by werepig » Sat May 12, 2012 12:29 pm

So on my way out the door to work today I saw a big plump rabbit sitting on my front lawn. Now I used to pop off rabbits and plop 'em in the stew pot all the time back on the farm. So I got to thinking I see a fair bit of small furry beasts like bunnies, squirrels etc and also geese in the golf greens and muskrats in a few public park ponds in my part of town. Now if the S hit the F in a big way you can bet your ass I'd eat the little buggers, but I don't think popping them with a .22 would very smart in a populated area and I'm not to familiar with trapping.

Anyone have any plans on hunting/trapping after the apocalypse?
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Post by yossarian » Sat May 12, 2012 12:34 pm

werepig wrote:Anyone have any plans on hunting/trapping after the apocalypse?
Pretty much everybody as far as I can tell. I wouldn't count on Peter Cottontail being around for long after your neighbors get hungry.
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Post by Caenus » Sat May 12, 2012 12:38 pm

Too bad hunting in the suburbs is not legal. I'm sitting by the pool with about 6 of the fattest dove I've ever seen in my tree and a pellet gun calling my name from inside the house. Too bad, a little jalapeño and bacon and I'd fire up the grill.

I'd imagine that there enough people in the neighborhood with the skills necessary to trap/hunt the "wild life" well enough they'd be depleted in short order.
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Post by Dawgboy » Sat May 12, 2012 2:38 pm

I have a gamo Whisper and it works very well for small game. only down side is how big it is... and it looks like a rifle...
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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by JFlagg » Sat May 12, 2012 4:54 pm

Caenus wrote:Too bad hunting in the suburbs is not legal. I'm sitting by the pool with about 6 of the fattest dove I've ever seen in my tree and a pellet gun calling my name from inside the house. Too bad, a little jalapeño and bacon and I'd fire up the grill.

I'd imagine that there enough people in the neighborhood with the skills necessary to trap/hunt the "wild life" well enough they'd be depleted in short order.
Its generally illegal to shoot a firearm in the city, but not illegal to hunt in the suburbs. Except maybe where you are... lol. I shoot deer all the time in the suburbs of St. Louis and its perfectly legal. Squirrels, rabbits, doves and the like I wouldn't even think twice.
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Post by Caenus » Sat May 12, 2012 4:57 pm

JFlagg wrote:
Caenus wrote:Too bad hunting in the suburbs is not legal. I'm sitting by the pool with about 6 of the fattest dove I've ever seen in my tree and a pellet gun calling my name from inside the house. Too bad, a little jalapeño and bacon and I'd fire up the grill.

I'd imagine that there enough people in the neighborhood with the skills necessary to trap/hunt the "wild life" well enough they'd be depleted in short order.
Its generally illegal to shoot a firearm in the city, but not illegal to hunt in the suburbs. Except maybe where you are... lol. I shoot deer all the time in the suburbs of St. Louis and its perfectly legal. Squirrels, rabbits, doves and the like I wouldn't even think twice.
It's actually restricted here specifically by map zones. It sucks.
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Post by phil_in_cs » Sat May 12, 2012 5:38 pm

While I'm sure you could get a few, don't count on them as a food source. As more people get hungry, the animals will get eaten pretty quickly.
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Post by ZombieGranny » Sat May 12, 2012 6:03 pm

phil_in_cs wrote:While I'm sure you could get a few, don't count on them as a food source. As more people get hungry, the animals will get eaten pretty quickly.
As will every scrap of green down to the dirt, and the roots dug out too.
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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by TacAir » Sat May 12, 2012 6:57 pm

Maybe not so much...

In Detroit City

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Detroit was once home to nearly 2 million people but has shrunk to a population of perhaps less than 900,000. It is estimated that a city the size of San Francisco could fit neatly within its empty lots. As nature abhors a vacuum, wildlife has moved in.

AND


When selecting the best raccoon carcass for the special holiday roast, both the connoisseur and the curious should remember this simple guideline: Look for the paw.

"The paw is old school," says Glemie Dean Beasley, a Detroit raccoon hunter and meat salesman. "It lets the customers know it's not a cat or dog."

Beasley, a 69-year-old retired truck driver who modestly refers to himself as the Coon Man, supplements his Social Security check with the sale of raccoon carcasses that go for as much $12 and can serve up to four. The pelts, too, are good for coats and hats and fetch up to $10 a hide.

While economic times are tough across Michigan as its people slog through a difficult and protracted deindustrialization, Beasley remains upbeat.

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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by fixinto » Sat May 12, 2012 8:46 pm

For quiet urban hunting in the PAW if you dont already have an air gun I suggest the super colibri

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or the sub sonic sniper

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I have done pretty exhaustive testing on subsonic rounds for the 22lr and these by far are the quietest and I have taken squirrels and rabbits with both at about 60 feet.

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Post by werepig » Sun May 13, 2012 7:15 am

phil_in_cs wrote:While I'm sure you could get a few, don't count on them as a food source. As more people get hungry, the animals will get eaten pretty quickly.
I realize that for sure. I was thinking I might be a good was to augment the food supply once in a wile.
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Post by Boondock » Sun May 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Let's not forget about the animals themselves and their instincts.

The rabbits and squirrels and chipmunks frolic in my yard only because no one's trying to kill and eat them.

In a PAW, as the animal population dwindles once it becomes open season, I'm guessing the survivors will migrate to safer locations.

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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by HMPlatinum » Sun May 13, 2012 3:13 pm

Slingshot for Peter Cottontail?



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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by werepig » Sun May 13, 2012 3:24 pm

Boondock wrote:Let's not forget about the animals themselves and their instincts.

The rabbits and squirrels and chipmunks frolic in my yard only because no one's trying to kill and eat them.

In a PAW, as the animal population dwindles once it becomes open season, I'm guessing the survivors will migrate to safer locations.
This very true. Then the poodle across the street it is.
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Post by PackLemming » Sun May 13, 2012 3:26 pm

Every tom dick and harry in the UK has fishing equipment, meaning the rivers will be picked clean especially if the Roma gypsies drag net them like they have been doing over the last few years. Air rifle's are soon to get the typical draconian treatment by UK standards, either they are too powerful (over 12ft/lbs/e with common ammunition at the muzzle) requiring form filling bureaucracy for license registration that happens to be no different to the method of acquiring .22lr cartridge firearms and greater caliber's or they are JUST AS expensive to buy brandnew (under the legal limit of 12ft/lbs/e) as a working class 2nd-handed cartridge firearms ~ thus ensuring the majority of folk will not purchase one as a security investment. I mean slapping £650 onto the counter for a glorified blow gun is beyond many people's ability to justify. Shotgunning will certainly be the flavor of small game taking when the SHTF here simply because they are middle of the road when it concerns license application cost(s) and final cost of the projectile weapon + ammunition.

Small game will be decimated if the SHTF, and that includes the wild European piggies that have been reintroduced to woodland over the last few years to encourage re-population after previously being hunted to extinction by the hoorah henry's.
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Post by ODA 226 » Fri May 18, 2012 1:32 am

fixinto wrote:I have done pretty exhaustive testing on subsonic rounds for the 22lr and these by far are the quietest and I have taken squirrels and rabbits with both at about 60 feet.
Stick with the air rifle. A sub-sonic .22LR still sounds like a gunshot and the sound travels a very long way.
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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by fixinto » Sat May 19, 2012 9:06 pm

Try the colibris they are no louder than an air gun and for the price of a decent air gun I have a few thousand of these which should see me through just fine.

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Post by Mr_Sheesh » Sun May 20, 2012 6:47 pm

Don't forget traps, there are varieties for everything from birds to squirrels, I wish I knew the title of one book I've read some time ago. A lot of traps are not super well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_trapping and http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/sn ... index.html for a couple of examples. Likely there are other designs I've never seen, as mankind is pretty ingenious!

And for darn sure you'll want to keep your pets CLOSE to you, as traps etc. will catch pets as well as wildlife, you do NOT want your mousers to be hurt or die.
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Post by cbr900 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Id wager that if things got so bad you had to hunt for your food, the city would not be the place you would want to be.

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Post by njcioffi » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:02 pm

fixinto wrote:Try the colibris they are no louder than an air gun and for the price of a decent air gun I have a few thousand of these which should see me through just fine.
Have you hunted with them at all? The super colibris in a long barreled, closed action rifle are about as quiet as it gets (suppressed weapons included), but they have very little energy. I have not hunted with them because I know that they will not always penetrate even a soup can, and can't ethically justify using them on an animal. Has anyone used colibris or super colibri's on small game?

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Post by Dawgboy » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:45 pm

I have used the Aquila 60 grain subsonics out of a 10/22 and a ruger Mark III on ground Squirrels with great success, even though neither barrel is truly suited to it. I am told you can get great accuracy with a tighter twist... I did not find them to be inaccurate from the 10/22 in the under 50 foot shooting I have done with them. Btw, they hit pretty hard...
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Post by Illini Warrior » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:25 pm

going to be a million things to spend time on besides filling the pot ..... trapping as a "force multiplier" is crucial .... learning to run snares and DIY traps would be beneficial .... but an easier to learn route for squirrels and small birds are rat traps .... for $1.50 each they are a cheap prep tool
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Post by Dawgboy » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:37 pm

I can attest to these working very well for catching squirrels...

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Re: "wild meat" in the city

Post by tedbeau » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:27 am

Well I have been gaining valuable skill using live traps. So far this year I have trapped five opossum's (opossim's? what's the plural of opossum?).

The last round of trapping was initiated by the fact that a ground hog had taken up residence under my shed. I havn't had any luck catching him but have caught two adult and three young opossum.

I may have persuaded the ground hog to move on however as I dumped a gallon of industrial strength ammonia down his burrow. There doesn't seem to be any new activity around there now. The wife and I are laughing about it though because we have a fenced back yard that our two dogs are out in off and on all day and night. I have been preparing to hold off a horde of Zombies, only to be overrun by animals. Apparently we have "city" dogs that don't know how to scare off critters. The little one does freak out over the mail truck everyday though. If TSHTF I figure I'll trap oppossum's till there on none left then just eat the dogs.

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