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ZS:011 summergeddon 2012, photo grande, bushcraft silly.

Post by scurvy » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:35 pm

Scurvy, Ninja Elbow, Roxxor, and jak met up in the Mt Hood forest for the ZS:011 Summergeddon 2012, we decided on the Salmon River/Huckleberry wilderness as both ninja and I did seperate trips in the last contest, this time we'd go as a group. Here's how it went:



I had done some scouting earlier in the year and found a couple of nice sites, we met up at the trail head late AM friday and found we had the woods to oursleves. A short hike down a hill through the woods, over some trees, under a tree, and across a log we found our spot.

morning sun through the cedars:
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Roxxor opted for the 'bug-free' approach, ninja did some tarp experamentation:
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He ended up with this set up:
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jak went off the ground:
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I decided to keep it simple:
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threw together a bucksaw, I need to work on my design, (I definately need to go bigger on the sticks for the frame, spend more time notching/secureing the center stick) but it got the job done:
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here it is in action via jak, notice it tweaks a bit, but it chewed through the log in no time:
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no need for too much sawing, we just fed the wood in as it burned, unburned log made a nice place to set the coffee mug:
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Ninja-Elbow and Roxxor enjoying the fire and heating some water:
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Harrassed a critter, not very cooperative when trying to get a photo:
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a shot of the river:
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and Ninja's food cooler:
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did some fly fishing, lots of little guys, this is a nice fish for the area:
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cut-bow (rainbow/cut throat hybrid) I believe... :
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as I was out fishing I found a set of tracks that I thought might be black bear (common in the area), after a little research I think what we have here is a really big dog.
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the menu was "meat on a stick" sirloin, pork and marinated beef:
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breakfast was also on a stick, bacon:
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the night before I thought I'd leave a piece of bacon on a string in the river to see if any crawdads were about, the next morning my bait had worked, not a crawdad though:
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big ass mud-puppy:
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saturday afternoon I decided to have





A FAT-WOOD THROWDOWN:

on the left, representing the northwest, my oregon pitch wood.

on the right, representing the southeast, xxxDarkside'sxxx florida fat wood:

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each was shaved up:
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and hit with sparks only:
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the florida shavings:
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lit up on the third spark, burned nicely:
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the oregon shavings:
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much more difficult to light,(maybe 10-12 strikes) but burned almost out of control.
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florida wins the ease of ignition, oregon wins the best burn.

topping off a pile of oregon shaveings with a bit of florida worked better yet,
They worked best together, so there's no need for a east vs west feud or anything..






more of the trip, (I get a little bushcraft crazy):

miniture oil lamp (nut shell filled with olive oil, jute twine wick, twig tripod), around 5 minute burn time even with slight breeze:
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Ninja-Elbow brought along a mora spoon knife, I've never used one before and tried it out. Took me a little time (and a cut hand) to get used to it, but I carved out a rather ugly ladle. not pretty but it'll serve soup:
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what now? big pile of kindleing sticks?
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nope, I tied together a squirrel trap with some paracord guts.

option 1 : the string/figure four, baited with powerbar:
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option 2 : down and dirty pull the string:
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only saw one squirrel and didn't leave the trap out all that long, no squirrels were traumatized this time around.


some shiney new fungus I saw on the way out:
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that winds it up for the photos, thanks to Ninja, Roxxor, and jak, it's always nice to have good company while out in the woods. Hope to do it again soon.



thanks for looking,
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Post by ninja-elbow » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:50 pm

That Oregon fatwood was kind of hard to light with a ferro rod but when it went (as I added some of Darkside's FL fatwood to the top) it burned like tires and gas.

Still, the biggest salamander I ever done saw.
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Post by Boondock » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:33 pm

Very, very fun-looking outing, guys. Thanks for posting.

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Post by ninja-elbow » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:37 pm

Thanks to Scurvy showing me some basics of fly fishing. Gonna' get into that stuff.
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Post by Woods Walker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:44 pm

That looked like a great time and full of bushcrafty goodness. Thanks for posting! :awesome:
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Post by ninja-elbow » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:54 pm

Some notes on my tarp shelter:

a) Used a 10x10 Proforce (Snugpak) tarp. I forgot it's official name but I picked it up with a e-coupon for around $60 shipped. Will be reviewing it by end of year.
b) The set-up was Scurvy's idea. My original plan was to do a diamond style set-up but the 10x10 is just too big.
c) I slept in it both directions (head in and head out). Head in sucked as it got clausterphobic with the tarp right there in your face. Head out sucked as your head is then exposed to the open area. Then "duhr"... I used the little "door flaps". Slept like I was paid to do it when I figured that one out.
d) Set-up is called a Woodman's.
e) Plenty of room for one person and gear. I could fit 2 in there if I pulled gear out. (Roxxors was in a tent).
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Post by Woods Walker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:21 pm

Nice fat wood showdown. That looks like your Helle feathering it. Also liked seeing a SAK getting some action. Yup the tarp action was downright nice. How do you think a fire would have worked near the entrance?
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Post by scurvy » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:55 pm

Woods Walker wrote:Nice fat wood showdown. That looks like your Helle feathering it. Also liked seeing a SAK getting some action. Yup the tarp action was downright nice. How do you think a fire would have worked near the entrance?

I've done a fire close to the tarp:

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smokey, smokey, smokey.... especially with wet wood.

insulation and closing up the front adds a lot of warmth.

a boiler/heater helps too.





the SAK is the 'rucksack'. I called the company and asked for the new grip, non-serrated blade and the wood saw. that's the model that met my criteria. I like it.
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Post by Apollo-11 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:13 am

Jealous...
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Post by ninja-elbow » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:26 am

Would've done much better with a fire up front, alas it's nylon and I'm fearing that I'll end up with holes in the thing. It's why the next tarp (the 3rd) will be canvas. Like Mors says, "Fire one step away from shelter opening." (I like a good HUGE step or 2 steps away really)

Wind is a factor of course but if we were to follow that while set-up we would've had smoke in the shelter anyways as the wind changed at sunset.

Yeah, that's me and the Helle Viking doing the fatwood shaving. Scurvy took a good pic. BTW, just realized that Roxxors took a bunch of pics on my camera (I didn't). Will go through those tonight and see what we got.
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Post by nateted4 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:40 pm

Sorry I missed this, but it looks like you had a blast!
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Post by Flying Lead » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:51 pm

Looked like a heck of a bushcraft festival, nice trip!
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I laughed at your spoon cause I just made something similar to it, but I didn't get to finish it.
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Post by xxxDarksidexxx » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:41 pm

nice trip and show of skills as always scurvy! i always enjoy seeing the photos of you and ninja elbows AO.

nice fatwood throwdown! though im dissapointed there with not be an east coast west coast fued. ive been itching for a fued since i just got done watching the hatfields and mccoys... :twisted: ( had it on the dvr for some time )

anyways i have some birch bark i need to match up against each other. i got some from FL/i harvested, some from CT/woodswalker, and some from Canada/canadian guy.... should be fun!

again, nice trip. if you need more of that awesome lighting Fl fatwood just holla at me. :clap: :lol:

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Post by ninja-elbow » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:14 pm

The birch bark I collect up here is all urban and burns well. Urban as in people plant white birch as an ornamental tree and when the bark starts to slough off I get some permission to grab a bit.

Never seen no natural birch out in the woods around here.

Also, some "paper bark maples" around here too that will fool the shit out of you. That stuff burns, but not like birch. Burns like paper.
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Post by JoeTosco » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:10 am

You guys had a nice day in the woods...

Still coudn't find anything related to fatwood around here, but if Florida has it makes sense to believe that it exists in my area too. I'll keep searching.
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Post by Turtlewolf » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:05 am

JoeTosco wrote:You guys had a nice day in the woods...

Still coudn't find anything related to fatwood around here, but if Florida has it makes sense to believe that it exists in my area too. I'll keep searching.
There has to be some form of flammable tree blood down there, fat wood dosen't seem to common here either. I hadn't even heard of it until I started spending time on bushcraft forums and I've spent a ton of time in the forests of Alberta over my life time.
EDIT:this post made me remember that I miss visiting the cedars of British Columbia, pretty country youve got.
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Post by ninja-elbow » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:27 am

Does fatwood have to be from pine? Could other trees produce it too? I have no idea myslef. I just got taught how to find it 2 years ago or so.
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Post by Turtlewolf » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:02 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:Does fatwood have to be from pine? Could other trees produce it too? I have no idea myslef. I just got taught how to find it 2 years ago or so.
Spruce should produce it I would think but again, I haven't had any luck with spruce or pine in my areas. Maybe it is dependant on a specific environment?
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Post by ninja-elbow » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:14 pm

That's something I've got to find out. I was just taught pine trees made it but now I'm wondering.

We're heading back out to this area this weekend so I'll see about aking some time (we have other projects scheduled as there will be about 8 of us) to walk-about and see what I can find. I know that the indicator of fatwood is a turpentine smell so that HAS to be pine but maybe some sugar maples?
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Post by Turtlewolf » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:50 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:That's something I've got to find out. I was just taught pine trees made it but now I'm wondering.

We're heading back out to this area this weekend so I'll see about aking some time (we have other projects scheduled as there will be about 8 of us) to walk-about and see what I can find. I know that the indicator of fatwood is a turpentine smell so that HAS to be pine but maybe some sugar maples?
No maple here in Alberta naturaly but there are a lot of them that are in yards-no sugar type, but there are tons of cut blocks where spruce stumps are plentifull so after hunting season I intend on hitting some up. I think I would have encountered fatwood at some point in my life, but I hadn't heard of Mors either(the father of bushcraft) until two weeks ago and evidently we live in the same province!
I'll report back if I find anything, but it won't be till december at the soonest.
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Post by ninja-elbow » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:09 pm

What I got taught from River8 and the only technique that has worked for me so far.

-Find the stump of a naturally fallen pine tree.
-Thump it with your boot or tool, thump it good and hard so that you thump off the dead stuff and punky wood.
-Your looking for "spires" that remain. Give them a smell.
-If it smells like turpentine you've got some fatwood in there.
-Dig around and pull them spires out.

I've gotten lucky and found pine knots on old fallen logs, big ones. I thump off all the dead punky wood and the knots (on the underside) were nice and hard. I pulled a few out and they smelled like turpentine. Burned good.

I've read and heard of other ways to find fatwood but never had luck until River8 showed me how to do it.
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