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Postby Jamie » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:03 am

laditek wrote:I'd love to try snow-shoeing at some point. Are any of the extra pairs adjustable enough for a size 8 women's?

Dunno how easy it would be to move camp, but I'm up for trying. Really everything minus food should fit in theLight and I's packs. Hmmm....good use of sled.

Since the shelter also has bunnies on a regular basis I've mobilized my spinning group to keep toilet paper rolls for me. Best bunny toy ever is the rolls stuffed with treat hay and they keep for a long time.


Gail has a pair of snowshoes that should work that I can borrow for you...

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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby laditek » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:23 am

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laditek wrote:I'd love to try snow-shoeing at some point. Are any of the extra pairs adjustable enough for a size 8 women's?

Dunno how easy it would be to move camp, but I'm up for trying. Really everything minus food should fit in theLight and I's packs. Hmmm....good use of sled.

Since the shelter also has bunnies on a regular basis I've mobilized my spinning group to keep toilet paper rolls for me. Best bunny toy ever is the rolls stuffed with treat hay and they keep for a long time.


Gail has a pair of snowshoes that should work that I can borrow for you...

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Thanks Jamie! That would be much appreciated. :)
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Jamie » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:29 am

Netflix is sending "Dead Snow" to me for the trip...I hear that it's one of the best Nazi Zombie movies to come out of Norway in the last 10 years!

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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby CrackMunk » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:57 pm

nfa wrote:
carolb wrote:
SirSharpe wrote:Carol: Glad to see you're bringing the "clan" along! Wouldn't mind borrowing your hubby's snowshoes, if possible. I want to try some out, before spending $120+. I'm very interested, as my BOL is about 10 miles outside of Syracuse, and you never know what the weather will be like when (not if) the Zompocalypse happens!

no Prob. I got them for $80 at wallies cus didn't know if we would like it. Just found out I LOVE it. Tom says it good. LOL. Will be getting a better pair if I really do some heavy shoeing. but right now they work fine for what I do. your BOL brings up something else I would like to try to do is make a bushcraft snowshoe. has anyone tryed this? got to do some research


I have a pair of snowshoes that I'll be bringing along, that people can borrow...

I think that with some paracord and some balsam branches, we could make hoops of wood with boughs in the middle and tie our feet to them...they wouldn't be pretty or efficient (much like myself), but I bet they'd float you over the top of most of the snow...

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hell I've been know to be able to walk on top of thin crust and not break through! Bonus to being a stick. That is why you would make a better stew then me :twisted: I found this site http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/ ... snowshoes/ and weight is relative to the w-L of the shoe
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby feuer » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:39 pm

I'm up for trying a snow-portage of sorts but, not having snowshoes myself, it will depend on snow conditions. I do have some new gaitors to try out so we'll see. If its not in the cards then i'm happy pulling security back at base camp. Hopefully our radios will work better this year.
Should be discuss callsigns now?

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Sir Sharpe-
It's good that you are concerned, but just know that because you are it shows that you are taking it seriously, and that's a good thing. Obviously you wont be alone, and even though many of us have not even met, its safe to say you're among friends,....at least until you become a zombie.

Be as prepared as you can, have extra changes of warm clothes(especially base layers), and if the brains hit fan then this group is a pretty good bunch of problem solvers, and we'll get you through,....or use you as firewood, whichever is easier.

I'd say yes, putting the thinner layer bag inside the bigger main bag is better. The only way it wouldn't be is if it was too tight in there with you. Tight is bad, but so is too baggy. You want there to be lofted insulation all around you that will hold body warmed air, not so much that you are heating more than you need(ie: a full sized rectangular sleeping bag), and not pressed up against the bag like its too small.

Another couple of tricks to keeping warm through the night, in addition to bringing a pee bottle, is to snack on some food before you fall asleep, or if you wake up. Nuts, health bars, etc. work best, something with protein but not a lot of sugar will give your body fuel to burn without waking you up too much. Also drink a lot of water. Dehydration is not only bad, but the cold air sucks moisture from you too. Staying hydrated and fed helps keep you warm.

Festus-
Crappy timing on the stomach bug. I'm pretty sure you know that that can affect your body temp/comfort feelings in that backyard test.
Being sick can sway your comfort level hot or cold more than some people think.
Are you guys coming down to the barrens again as a "cool down" this year?
I have planned on going again too as my final gear check.

NFA-
Obviously you can't predict the weather, but what are the current conditions like up there as far as the site is concerned? Have you done any scouting yet?
I have access to a Jeep this year so parking will be easier for me, but i'm still curious about the snow accumulations up there for this year,....it's surely been out of the ordinary down here so far.
The Lake Saranac live-cam(http://www.guideboatrealty.com/webcam.html) shows about the same as last year.

I saw that Nazi-zombie movie on the Netflix listing and i've wanted to check it out, awesome!
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Jamie » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:16 pm

feuer wrote:NFA-
Obviously you can't predict the weather, but what are the current conditions like up there as far as the site is concerned? Have you done any scouting yet?
I have access to a Jeep this year so parking will be easier for me, but i'm still curious about the snow accumulations up there for this year,....it's surely been out of the ordinary down here so far.
The Lake Saranac live-cam(http://www.guideboatrealty.com/webcam.html) shows about the same as last year.

I saw that Nazi-zombie movie on the Netflix listing and i've wanted to check it out, awesome!


We've got about a foot on the ground as of today...I'll scout the site in a week or so and post some pics!

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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby laditek » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:57 am

SirSharpe wrote:Thanks to to everyone's advise/ encouragement - I have down graded my anxiety level from: "shitting my pants" to " fucking terrified".

Just tried "nesting" my two bags - and they fit together perfectly. I have the 'lesser' bag inside the 'main' bag. Does it make a difference? And what kinda tempature rating does that work out to?



If you have enough space inside the nested bags, fleece liners are a nice additional layer. I find them easier to warm up to body temperature then the sleeping bag alone. The Wiggy's nested bags have the +20 rated bag on the outside and the zero on the inside. Not sure how much of a difference it makes though.
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Jamie » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:44 pm

I'm a big believer in wearing fleece on the extremities to bed during the WCT...socks, gloves, balaclava...ounce for ounce, I believe that is the best investment that you can make in staying warm through the night.

We're getting dumped on up here today...lotsa new snow!

Also, they've been plowing off Lake Flower to let the ice grow thick for the winter carnival and castle... (the links provided give the schedule for the carnival, and some pics from my blog)...

The Tri-Lakes Human Society, this year's charity, has a nice website with pics of the beasties living there, as well as a wish-list of the sort of stuff that they would like to get from donors...


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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Festus Hagen » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:57 pm

feuer wrote:Festus-
Crappy timing on the stomach bug. I'm pretty sure you know that that can affect your body temp/comfort feelings in that backyard test.
Being sick can sway your comfort level hot or cold more than some people think.
Are you guys coming down to the barrens again as a "cool down" this year?
I have planned on going again too as my final gear check.


Yeah although I thought of the testing as encouraging, I need to do a full night in better condition before I can really comment too much on the efficiency of the hammock sock.

Not doing Pine Barrens this year. The plan was to go, but it's the weekend before the WCT... that's a lot of winter camping over a couple weeks in a row.
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby CrackMunk » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:46 pm

Sir Sharpe- I may not talk like it. But am shitting my pants too. I have the weather ticker up for Lake Clear and check it 2-3 times a day! Its saying -4 for Fri nite!! OMFG!!! we can hold down the main camp together! LOL I just want to see if I can do it. as well as the "Clan" does too.
heads up, I have a little social anxiety :oops: (if some didn't notice the last trip, part of the reason I bugged out)so if I'm a Little quiet dont take it personnel.sometimes just need a little push sometimes.
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby SirSharpe » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:43 pm

I don't want you guys to worry about me, I'm not really "terrified" - I just hate being cold. OTOH - I'll bet I'm the only person here to witness a man DIE from hypothermia. No worries, he got better. Its a great Army /campfire story I'll regale you with someday. Still - isn't there some other hazing ritual that I could endure - say, something involving baby oil and jello shots?

P.S. "Dead Snow" is pretty good. Kind of a Nazi RomZomCom. Just make sure to select the english audio-dub. I "watched" the whole movie with subtitles..... needless to say, it loses something.
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby feuer » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:52 pm

SirSharpe wrote:Still - isn't there some other hazing ritual that I could endure - say, something involving baby oil and jello shots?


That's so passe,....we did that last year.

For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something like....

Baby jello and oil shots!
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby thelight » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:52 am

SirSharpe wrote:Still - isn't there some other hazing ritual that I could endure - say, something involving baby oil and jello shots?


Reminds me, what is the drink of doom this year, Jamie? Sardine infused malt liquor? :mrgreen:
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Jamie » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:57 am

thelight wrote:
SirSharpe wrote:Still - isn't there some other hazing ritual that I could endure - say, something involving baby oil and jello shots?


Reminds me, what is the drink of doom this year, Jamie? Sardine infused malt liquor? :mrgreen:


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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Bster13 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:10 am

Clarification: For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something VOLUNTARY like....

Baby jello and oil shots!
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby CrackMunk » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:00 pm

Bster13 wrote:Clarification: For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something VOLUNTARY like....

Baby jello and oil shots!


Lemon/Rosmary oil shots! Yummy or was that 40/10
I dont even want to know how to make "Baby Jello" :shock:
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby SirSharpe » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:17 pm

Bster13 wrote:Clarification: For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something VOLUNTARY like....
Baby jello and oil shots!

<cough> pussy! <cough>


feuer wrote: For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something like....
Baby jello and oil shots!


Flamming oil shots! That'll keep us "toasty". (note: the use of the rare non-sexual double entendre)
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Bster13 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:23 pm

*cough* Timber! *cough*

Of course I dish it out and take a ton of it, heck I even enjoy making others laugh by making fun of myself (my mom was a big subject last year at the WCT) .....but if it's unwanted, or the person isn't aware, not cool. That's all.
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby SirSharpe » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:43 pm

Bster13 wrote:*cough* Timber! *cough*


Toche motherfucker, toche! :|
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby CrackMunk » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:26 am

SirSharpe wrote:
Bster13 wrote:Clarification: For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something VOLUNTARY like....
Baby jello and oil shots!

<cough> pussy! <cough>


feuer wrote: For 2011 we need something fresh, something new, something wild and exciting,....something like....
Baby jello and oil shots!


Flamming oil shots! That'll keep us "toasty". (note: the use of the rare non-sexual double entendre)


I hope you guys didn't take what I said.....""you guys and your chick cold! What is that supost to mean? every woman goes though a stage where she could stand outside in undies and melt snow in a 10' area. I'm finding I'm sleeping warm now. And by the trip hoping to be sleeping hot! ""....... to heart. Cus I was just busting on you! I saw an opening and went for it! LOL :twisted:
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby Jamie » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:43 am

I went to the Tri-Lakes Humane Society yesterday with Ben and we walked a couple fo dogs and told the people working there to expect us on the 5th to bring some presents and walk some dogs and scratch some cats and rabbits...they're all excited and grateful in advance!

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The well name Big Boykin the pitbull...his head was as big as a Thanksgiving turkey, but he was incredibly gentle taking treats from both Ben and I (I tested his gaping maw on Ben first, I'm not stupid)...

http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/NY89.html

They have a posted policy of 3 dogs out at once, for walking on their trails, but also have a playpen where we can roughhouse and rumble with the dogs...they have a gazillion cats and 4 rabbits...

It is -8F this morning, and supposed to get really cold tonight...I may sleep out in ym hammock in the woods behind my house tonight to test the not-dying-ness of my setup...

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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby CrackMunk » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:17 am

OMFG they are soooooo cute! Its a Puppypallosa!
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby feuer » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:44 am

Bster13 wrote:*cough* Timber! *cough*

Of course I dish it out and take a ton of it, heck I even enjoy making others laugh by making fun of myself (my mom was a big subject last year at the WCT) .....but if it's unwanted, or the person isn't aware, not cool. That's all.


Sir Sharpe, are you aware of the "weenie incident" from last year...?

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The caption of course is to make light of the unfortunate situation you see presented in the graphic. In no way was the this eventual outcome planned or in any way intended in jest at the expense of my good friend Bster.
The truth of the matter is that it is actually an extremely freak combination of events occurring at the same moment in time.

Allow me to elaborate.

Bster, who I have met on more than one occasion, and was quick to befriend due to our mutual appreciations in life, is an individual I have the highest respect for.
At the time just before the photo was taken Bster was enlightening the group on a multitude of aspects pertaining to the accelerations and temporary gravity well affects of volatile particle combination, pertaining specifically to the field of quantum physics, and the resultant possible impacts on revolutionary non-metallic gravitational compounds. In laymans terms, low surface proximity ferro-plastic adhesives. He is quite the speaker if you did not know.

I, in my typical clumsy manner, was trying to prepare a final snack for myself before I turned in for the night. Being one of the older participants in the group on this particular night, I just didn't have the physical and mental fortitude to keep up with my fellow adventurers. So, I turned away from my cooler of food, a single hotdog in hand, to attempt a fire lit search of my surroundings for a stick with which to suspend my weenie over the toasty fire. I am not a graceful fellow. The treacherous winter conditions that evening are evident in the picture above. Snow was falling, the temperatures were below zero, and the ground was slick with hard packed ice and snow.
Unfortunately, I could not prevent the consequences of my own ineptitude combined with these slippery conditions. Yep,...I was in the process of falling on my ass.

NFA on the other hand had quietly begun organizing his gear in preparation for leaving the next morning. At the time of this incident he happened to be packing his camera away in a ziplock bag for safe keeping, but unfortunately his mitten gloved hands were being uncooperative with the tiny ziplock seal. In his fumblings the camera snapped off what you can clearly see is a terrible photo, with no fore-thought of framing, focus, or any indication of control.

Now Bster, being the selfless hero he is, did I mention he donates $1000 to that animal shelter every year, no? Regardless, Bster had brought his A-game as usual, and being such a good friend had been watching out for me throughout his engaging discussion. Sensing my lack of sound footing he rapidly dove to my aid from his camp chair and deftly attempted to apply what I can only possibly guess was some kind of Shaolin Kung-fu-esque Tai chi leg locking technique to my right knee, and save me from embarrassment.

His swift action was blindingly fast, but even in his undoubtable years of experience he was not faster than the flash of light from NFA's camera. Bster's technique was flawless i'm sure, but the glare of the flash was just enough to distract the most hardened of true masters, and instead my clumsy fall continued unabated.

The carnage that ensued, after the flash of freakish timing occurred, shall not be recounted by those who experienced it. It was truely unpleasant to witness, let alone share. But know this....
Without noble heros like Bster to educate, inspire, and protect us from ourselves, this world would be a far harsher place to live.
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Re: NNY2011WCT! February 4-7

Postby feuer » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:47 am

nfa wrote:...they have a gazillion cats and 4 rabbits...


Speaking of food, do you think they'll let me adopt on friday before the potluck?
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