Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable? Jan 27-29th

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Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable? Jan 27-29th

Postby Big B » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:52 am

Since its still fresh in people's minds from yesterday’s meeting I figured we should get the discussion going. I hope I'm not stepping on any toes with the chapter officers by starting this thread though. :D

So, where do we want to go? What do we want to do? What week/weekend in January works for everyone?

I would like some snow. We could do the same location as last year and hope it doesn't turn into "Slushageddon" again, but I'd love to hear some other ideas.

Someone mentioned snowshoeing and I like that idea. If we do that we may want to pick a relatively mild trail to go on, just so we're not scaring off folks that haven’t been snowshoeing before. I know of some snowshoe spots on Forest Service land near Baker Lake, or a couple spots east of me off SR 20.

I'll be in CA for a week in January, but we don't have dates set in stone yet so the sooner we can at least pick dates the better for me. :wink:

So, what say you guys?
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby pasha » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:01 am

I'm busy on the weekend of January 14, but other than that I am game for whatever. :D
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DropZedFred » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:06 pm

Camp on the "super secret" range with a port-a-potty on site.
"Eat - Shoot - Sleep - Poop" will be the logo - which is on the periphery of a tent in the snow for the patch.

Got it all figured out... :lol:
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby MEANTREE » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:29 pm

I am currently open all month in January. And no problems starting the thread Big B.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby Dietrich » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:35 pm

Missed the meeting, but hope not to miss WG X!!.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby Black November » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:39 pm

I probably won't make this year Wintergeddon. Instead I will be living in my cubicle for the month of January and February trying to survive "Office-a-geddon".

Another motto could be "Have fun, don't die!"
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DrGonzo » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:12 pm

Regardless of my schedule, I'm on the fence simply because I'm a huge steaming pile of wuss in the snow/slush.

I look forward to being a backseat driver and mocking your plans as they progress.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DropZedFred » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:15 pm

DrGonzo wrote:Regardless of my schedule, I'm on the fence simply because I'm a huge steaming pile of wuss in the snow/slush.

I look forward to being a backseat driver and mocking your plans as they progress as always.

Fixed! :lol:
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DrGonzo » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:31 pm

DropZedFred wrote:
DrGonzo wrote:Regardless of my schedule, I'm on the fence simply because I'm a huge steaming pile of wuss in the snow/slush.

I look forward to being a backseat driver and mocking your plans as they progress as always.

Fixed! :lol:
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DropZedFred » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:13 pm

All in fun...
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby d.riley » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:52 pm

I have been told by several folks that there are lots of places up on the passes, Snoqualmie and Stevens, that are fine for snowshoeing and snow camping. I'd be glad to see what else I can find out if that is appealing to anyone. I think to better guarantee that we don't have another slushageddon, we would have to motivate to the east side of the Cascades.

Other more interesting ideas that have been floated in the past that I think deserve further consideration:

Rolling/roving camping, focusing on road convoy techniques, and radio communications. Start either north or south of the central area, and spend the night at a different predetermined location each night, making our way across the area. This would absolutely prevent anyone from 'getting comfortable' in any sense. However, it is more work and requires more coordination, which in itself is a skill that I feel we ALL need to develop.

Couchageddon as some have called it, something more urban and sheltered than out in the woods hugging the frozen landscape. I picture this as something more like finding a relatively abandoned building, be it a barn, old industrial/manufacturing site, etc.. something like what was seen in 'The Colony' TV series. Any (safe) property that is not currently in use would be fine. The biggest concern would be getting permission from the owner(s), and maybe a safety waiver etc.. This should take the edge off the cold and the rain, but might make it harder to find resources like fresh water or wood for burning. I have a line on such a site, but at this point it is not promising.

I understand why people would want to put their main effort into learning how to survive by themselves out in the woods somewhere, but I think that really misses the point of working together, and coming up with realistic solutions to the problems we are most likely to face.

Please discuss ;-)
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby d.riley » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:10 pm

Oh yeah, about the schedule. I don't think it has to be in January. February and March are probably fine too, depending on the level of suck desired. Mostly I think it just has to be winter, and after the holidays. Here's the wintery weekends listed by the Saturday:

1/7 - opportunity for a monthly meeting, and full moon.
1/14 - MLK day on Monday, holiday for some.
1/21 - new moon, should be quite dark at night.
1/28
2/4
2/11 - opportunity for monthly meeting
2/18 - Presidents' day weekend, Monday holiday for some.
2/25
3/3
3/10 - opportunity for monthly meeting
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DropZedFred » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:05 pm

New moon - Ouch!
I like both those ideas, especially the Rolling/roving camping - sounds difficult, but could be a GREAT test of vehicles/Comms and direction finding. Put in to "waypoints" to pick up stragglers/regroup? Sounds like win...
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby pasha » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:12 am

d.riley wrote:I have been told by several folks that there are lots of places up on the passes, Snoqualmie and Stevens, that are fine for snowshoeing and snow camping. I'd be glad to see what else I can find out if that is appealing to anyone. I think to better guarantee that we don't have another slushageddon, we would have to motivate to the east side of the Cascades.

Other more interesting ideas that have been floated in the past that I think deserve further consideration:

Rolling/roving camping, focusing on road convoy techniques, and radio communications. Start either north or south of the central area, and spend the night at a different predetermined location each night, making our way across the area. This would absolutely prevent anyone from 'getting comfortable' in any sense. However, it is more work and requires more coordination, which in itself is a skill that I feel we ALL need to develop.

Couchageddon as some have called it, something more urban and sheltered than out in the woods hugging the frozen landscape. I picture this as something more like finding a relatively abandoned building, be it a barn, old industrial/manufacturing site, etc.. something like what was seen in 'The Colony' TV series. Any (safe) property that is not currently in use would be fine. The biggest concern would be getting permission from the owner(s), and maybe a safety waiver etc.. This should take the edge off the cold and the rain, but might make it harder to find resources like fresh water or wood for burning. I have a line on such a site, but at this point it is not promising.

I understand why people would want to put their main effort into learning how to survive by themselves out in the woods somewhere, but I think that really misses the point of working together, and coming up with realistic solutions to the problems we are most likely to face.

Please discuss ;-)

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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby Squeek » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:12 pm

Couchageddon as some have called it, something more urban and sheltered than out in the woods hugging the frozen landscape. I picture this as something more like finding a relatively abandoned building, be it a barn, old industrial/manufacturing site, etc.. something like what was seen in 'The Colony' TV series. Any (safe) property that is not currently in use would be fine. The biggest concern would be getting permission from the owner(s), and maybe a safety waiver etc.. This should take the edge off the cold and the rain, but might make it harder to find resources like fresh water or wood for burning. I have a line on such a site, but at this point it is not promising.

I understand why people would want to put their main effort into learning how to survive by themselves out in the woods somewhere, but I think that really misses the point of working together, and coming up with realistic solutions to the problems we are most likely to face.

Please discuss ;-)[/quote]


I agree that a couchageddon event would be more realistic... we would be working in an after major earthquake/tsunami event. I wonder if we could locate such a space through the State or a County DEM... :? Anyone know a farmer with an abandoned out building?
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby flanker71 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:26 pm

Been lurking on this thread for a bit and love the idea. Need to check with my own schedule before I can commit but has anyone thought of the olympics. Lots of drive in on FS roads to clearings for camp and hike in opportunities. Lena lake and Dosiwallups come to mind. You can even try and catch your own dinner in the lakes. Fires are allowed at lower elevations.

Just throwing it out there.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby srodocker » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:11 pm

im interseted just have to see a date then I can try and make some plans. is it snowshoeing type stuff or is it a campsite? i can bring the deuce and camper or just the deuce if theres some hiking involved. just let me know :)
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby flanker71 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:06 pm

So whats the status of this? Im thinking this sounds really fun and am down to give it a go.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby DropZedFred » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:14 pm

As a "PlanB" - I propose the following [Again]:
Camp on the "super secret" range with a port-a-potty on site.
Establish range hours (to allow for other activities like sleep) and a firm "No drinking" policy on the range.
We can preview Tannerite, tracers and more.

"Eat - Shoot - Sleep - Poop" will be the motto - which is on the periphery of a tent in the snow for the patch.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby Big B » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:21 am

It looks like I'll be in CA the weekend of the Jan 13-16. Not saying we need to plan things around me, but I would like to be at Wintergeddon so if we could pick a different weekend I would appreciate it. :wink:

How does everyone else's calendars look for Jan/Feb?
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby golddigger14s » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:44 am

My son's Boy Scout Troop is supposed to be having a snow cave outing up at Paradise, Mount Rainier Jan 21-22. Maybe we can do a combination? We just seperate the two groups, my son with the BS's, and I'll be with the the ZS'ers. Just a thought.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby marktaff » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:46 am

DropZedFred wrote:As a "PlanB" - I propose the following [Again]:
We can preview Tannerite, tracers and more.


I blew some of that up a month or two ago. It is a fairly satisfying boom and smoke cloud. :-)
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby marktaff » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:55 pm

I don't have any conflicting events in January or February, but I will be in school, so whether I can make it or not depends on how my schoolwork is going. This last quarter was rough, and I didn't do quite as well as I had hoped (A in general engineering physics III, A in mechanics of materials, but only a B in calculus IV). This next quarter looks to be as difficult, with differential equations, linear algebra, and dynamics, so I'll just have to see how it goes.

Pick a date that works best for everyone else, and I'll do my best to arrange my schoolwork around it.
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Re: Wintergeddon XII: Who's ready to be miserable?

Postby Big B » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:04 pm

How does the last weekend in January sound to everyone? I'm thinking the 27th-29th or 28th-30th, depending on what works for the majority of people.

I know this is a busy couple of weeks for people with the holidays and family obligations, but if you get a chance post up your thoughts so we can at least get a date narrowed down. January is coming quick and I'd prefer to not leave all the planning to the last minute, that way people can request time off if needed (like I will need to do :wink: ).
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