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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:56 pm

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Found amount of servings per container on line and estimated the cost at $3.50 for a normal sized jar.

Cost/100 Calories................Calories/ Weight (gram)...................Cost/ Calories/ weight...................Calories/ weight/cost with ease of use
$0.12......................................5.59............................................0.02...........................................0.03

Basically, about as good as normal peanut butter. The ranking is a little lower because of the higher cost. Send me another message if you have the exact cost.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:03 pm

ForgeCorvus wrote:
Are you going by weight of product or total pack weight ?
Is US Nutella different to the UK product ? (besides the fact that your servings are nearly four times the size of ours )
I take the total contents, which is why I use serving size and multiply that by servings per container. That calculation does not change the cost/ 100 calories, since that is a ratio anyway. The serving sizes are different going from the single pack to a jar. Apart from that, I need to take a look to determine where the differeces could be. Production standards in the Europe and the US are probably marginally different, but should not account for a major difference.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by Shaper » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:59 pm

oops, my nutritional info was bad for the perter pan honey roast...updated nutritional facts from their site...

Honey Roast Creamy - 16.3 oz.
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 2 tbsp (34g)
Servings Per Container about 13
Amount Per Serving
Calories 200
Calories from Fat 140

% Daily Value*
Total Fat 15g 23%
Saturated Fat 3g 15%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 125mg 5%
Potassium 160mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 10g 3%
Dietary Fiber 2g 8%
Sugars 8g
Protein 8g
Iron 2%
Magnesium 10%

EDIT: Apparently out of the top 3 brands...regular Peter Pan has the highest calorie per serving stat at 210 per serving and the Peter Pan Honey Roast in 2nd place respectively.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by ForgeCorvus » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:32 pm

Hows this?

From the UK website

..........................nutella per 100g ..........nutella per 15g portion
Energy - kJ...............2215.................................335
Energy - kcal..............530...................................80
Protein (g)......................6.4..................................1
Carbohydrate(g)............56.4..................................8.5
Of which Sugars(g).......55.2..................................8.3
Fat (g)..........................31....................................4.7
Of which saturates (g)...10.3.................................1.5
Fibre (g).........................3.5.................................0.5
Sodium (g).....................0.033..............................0.005

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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:24 pm

Shaper wrote:oops, my nutritional info was bad for the perter pan honey roast...updated nutritional facts from their site...

EDIT: Apparently out of the top 3 brands...regular Peter Pan has the highest calorie per serving stat at 210 per serving and the Peter Pan Honey Roast in 2nd place respectively.
Changes were marginal.... the most important thing for these calculations are total calories, weight, and cost...I estimated cost at 3.50 for a jar. Really the only way to beat this is to get generic peanut butter which has similar nutritional value, but is less expensive.

Calories/ Weight (gram)................Cost/ Calories/ weight....................Calories/ weight/cost with ease of use
5.88.................................................0.02.................................................0.03
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:28 pm

ForgeCorvus wrote:Hows this?

From the UK website

..........................nutella per 100g ..........nutella per 15g portion
Energy - kJ...............2215.................................335
Energy - kcal..............530...................................80
Protein (g)......................6.4..................................1
Carbohydrate(g)............56.4..................................8.5
Of which Sugars(g).......55.2..................................8.3
Fat (g)..........................31....................................4.7
Of which saturates (g)...10.3.................................1.5
Fibre (g).........................3.5.................................0.5
Sodium (g).....................0.033..............................0.005
To calculate, I need the servings per container and cost (either in pounds or dollars)
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by ForgeCorvus » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:18 pm

Right mate
50 portions (of 15g) , £3.45.

Thanks
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:54 pm

ForgeCorvus wrote:Right mate
50 portions (of 15g) , £3.45.

Thanks
Here are the values for UK Nutella, comparable to peanut butter, but Nutella wins on taste! (unfortunately not a factor in the calculations)

Calories/ Weight (gram).................Cost/ Calories/ weight.....................Calories/ weight/cost with ease of use
5.33................................................0.03.................................................0.03
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by ForgeCorvus » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:20 pm

Thanks for that mate.

Calorie dense, shelf stable and tastes better then most other things on the list....... We have a (personal) winner here :D

If the container wasn't made of glass it would be perfect
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by duodecima » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:22 am

ForgeCorvus wrote:Thanks for that mate.

Calorie dense, shelf stable and tastes better then most other things on the list....... We have a (personal) winner here :D

If the container wasn't made of glass it would be perfect
Huh. Don't think I've ever seen Nutella in glass on this side of the pond, it's all plastic. I could send you some but I think that'd kill the calorie/price efficiency.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by ForgeCorvus » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:05 pm

:lol:

How is it sealed from the factory then ?
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by duodecima » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:13 am

ForgeCorvus wrote::lol:

How is it sealed from the factory then ?
Plastic wide mouth jar with screwtop lid, under the lid is a sealed foil cover. Same way my nuts, PB, mayo, etc usually come.

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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by ForgeCorvus » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:54 pm

I get the same shape wide mouth jars............ Just in glass
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by kevmalone » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:12 am

Nutella sold in the US and in Canada is formulated differently from that sold in Europe.
The US version has added sugar and palm oil.
Kroger in the US sell an own-brand version made in Italy that is closer in taste to the European version of Nutella.

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Post by ForgeCorvus » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:56 pm

Kev, It still has the same calorific value/weight though.Makes you wonder if theres extra sugar and fats added..... What have they taken out ?


In the US theres 37grams per serving and only 15grams per serving in the UK....... Is a slice of bread larger over there or something??


If I ever do come for a visit I'll be looking to buy the Kroger's brand (are they a supermarket or something?)
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:12 pm

ForgeCorvus wrote:
If I ever do come for a visit I'll be looking to buy the Kroger's brand (are they a supermarket or something?)
Yes, Kroger is a store, so that will be a generic version. They are not in all areas, so finding one will depend on where you go.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by NapTime » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:24 pm

OK, I'll play.

One of the things I like to make for backpacking is homemade larabars. For taste, we generally use 1 cup almonds, 1 cup dates, and 1/4 cup apricots, all food processored up and pressed into bars. If we substitute both fruit out for raisins for cost effectiveness, a batch with ingredients from my local WinCo bulk section comes out as follows.

$1.75
kcal = 1366
Total = 285 g
Carbs = 170 g
Protein = 35 g
Fat = 74 g

.13 $/100 kcal
4.79 kcal/g


They're my favored trail breakfast, and make a great keep-me-going snack. If you like bars, and like dried fruit & nuts, this is the kind of thing you might want to try out! It's a little work upfront, but they really are a joy to eat out in the woods.

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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by Lynn LeFey » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:43 pm

Hey AnonEmous, thanks for this.

Some time back, while looking for cheap, calorie dense food, I stumbled across the idea of just dropping a small jar of generic peanut butter into my Bug Out Bag. It was the best calorie/weight/cost/prep-time idea I could come up with. I think looking at your numbers that I'd be hard pressed to beat it. I bought a jar at ALDIs. I don't remember the cost or I'd ask you to run the numbers, but it was considerably cheaper than name brand.

I hope you keep the numbers coming. I find this very interesting.

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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by AnonEmous » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:36 pm

NapTime wrote:OK, I'll play.

One of the things I like to make for backpacking is homemade larabars.
I need to move my calculations and then I can post the results for your homemade bars.

Lynn LeFey wrote:Hey AnonEmous, thanks for this.

I hope you keep the numbers coming. I find this very interesting.
Peanut butter is excellent for an inexpensive, easy, high source of calories. Keep in mind, you probably need something else to keep you going, though. If you have any foods you want me to run, let me know.
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Post by AnonEmous » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:50 pm

NapTime wrote:OK, I'll play.

One of the things I like to make for backpacking is homemade larabars. For taste, we generally use 1 cup almonds, 1 cup dates, and 1/4 cup apricots, all food processored up and pressed into bars. If we substitute both fruit out for raisins for cost effectiveness, a batch with ingredients from my local WinCo bulk section comes out as follows.

$1.75
kcal = 1366
Total = 285 g
Carbs = 170 g
Protein = 35 g
Fat = 74 g

.13 $/100 kcal
4.79 kcal/g

If you like bars, and like dried fruit & nuts, this is the kind of thing you might want to try out! It's a little work upfront, but they really are a joy to eat out in the woods.
So as it turns out, this comes in only behind peanut butter on a cost/ calories/ weight factor.

Cost/100 Caloris Calories/ Weight (gram) Cost/ Calories/ weight Calories/ weight/cost with ease of use
$0.13..............................4.79.................................0.03............................................0.03
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by quazi » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:21 pm

My personal philosophy with tuna is that you're using it to cut the Miracle Whip or Mayo, which are very high in calories. Combinations of food aren't really what you're doing though.

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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by duodecima » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:42 pm

Found a new one. Fudge brownie mix (Aldi brand) - 100 kcal/ 26g = 3.85 kcal/g.

Since I'm a fan of eating it as batter, mix with a little water. Possibly heat up a little crisco to mix in too, if you've packed it.

Not as efficient a PB, but very little is.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by procyon » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:34 am

duodecima wrote:Found a new one. Fudge brownie mix (Aldi brand)
This is actually one of my families favorite 'camping' foods.
(Ok, we don't have to go camping to eat a bunch of brownies. :clownshoes: )

We make the brownie mix (with 1/2 cup pecans mixed in and 1/2 cup choc chips sprinkled on top) in an 8" x 8" pan and cut it into 2" squares.
Each brownie comes out to about 170 cal with the total weighing in at approx 1 1/2 oz per bar.
Not as calorie dense as eating a stick of butter - but far easier on the palate.
We just seal them in plastic wrap and they keep for a few days very well.
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Re: Best Bets for Food: More Calories, Less Hassle

Post by Halfapint » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:09 am

Hey Anon you still updating this? I'd like to have something calculated I purchased Nutella (I HATE peanut butter) based on this post. Thanks for this by the way!
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