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A different take on rice and beans

Postby Jamie » Tue May 08, 2012 8:23 am

I'm home today with Ben, and was thinking about my food preps...rice and beans are acknowledged as nutritious foods that are cheap and shelf-stable, so I have lots of them, but I wonder about eating them for a prolonged period without getting bored.

It occurred to me to prepare one sweet (for breakfast or dessert) and one savory (for lunch and dinner)...to that end I found some really easy/simple recipes that should be able to feed a couple of people for a day or more for only a couple of bucks worth of ingredients.


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Rice Pudding
1 cup of brown rice
1 cup sugar
1 cinnamon stick
1/2 gallon of milk (I used fresh, but powdered could be used)

heat oven to 300F
mix ingredients in a casserole dish, and put in oven
stir every 1/2 hour until it thickens (about 3 hours)




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Basic Beans
1 pound of beans, soaked overnight
1 clove of garlic
1 onion
3TBS of oil (I used 2 of olive oil and 1 of toasted sesame)
salt/cracked pepper/red pepper flakes

chop garlic and onion, add to casserole dish
add oil, salt/cracked pepper/red pepper flakes
cook to flavor/soften onions
add beans and water to cover +1 inch
bring to boil and then down to simmer until tender (about 3 hours)


The smells in my house as I'm cooking these dishes is wonderful.

Both could be done over a fire outside, or on top of my woodstove downstairs. I could enjoy both of these hot or cold for a couple of days without worrying about refrigeration before I'd have to chuck it.

This is by no means revolutionary or creative, but I thought I'd share it anyway...

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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby majorhavoc » Tue May 08, 2012 8:26 am

Both of these sound really tasty, Jamie. Gonna have to try those.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby Jamie » Tue May 08, 2012 9:35 am

Both finished cooking at about the same time, and have been tested and found yummy!

In the spirit of full disclosure, I have to admit that I added the zest off of an orange that I peeled for Ben's breakfast to the rice pudding before it went in the oven...it added a nice accent to the pudding.

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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby KentsOkay » Tue May 08, 2012 10:52 am

Because of college, I've lived off of rice/beans/lentils for well over a week (also taking a multivitamin, no scurvy here!).

No matter how creative you get, your only friend in the end is Tabasco sauce.

I prefer a brown rice and lentils combo vs. beans, it doesn't take as long to cook and the lentils pack more protein.

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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby whisk.e.rebellion » Tue May 08, 2012 11:15 am

KentsOkay wrote:No matter how creative you get, your only friend in the end is Tabasco sauce.


Not true, sir.

http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2008/ ... -ways.html

I usually riff off of the Frijoles ala Charra and the Frijoles Borracha. Making your own chunky "hot sauce" to finish simmering the beans in is way better than Tabasco.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby TacAir » Tue May 08, 2012 11:22 am

Thanks to the OP, I took a look at Black beans and rice for different recipes - after looking at page after page of different ways of cooking these staples, I found even the FedGov has a recipe page!

A delicious Caribbean favorite that is cholesterol free and made with very little added fat.
1 lb dry black beans
7 C water
1 medium green pepper, coarsely chopped
1-1/2 C chopped onion
1 Tbsp vegetable oil
2 bay leaves
1 clove garlic, minced
1/2 tsp salt
1 Tbsp vinegar (or lemon juice)
6 C rice, cooked in unsalted water
1 jar (4 oz) sliced pimento, drained
1 lemon cut into wedges


Pick through beans to remove bad beans. Soak beans overnight in cold water. Drain and rinse.
In large soup pot or dutch oven stir together beans, water, green pepper, onion, oil, bay leaves, garlic, and salt. Cover and boil 1 hour.
Reduce heat and simmer, covered, 3-4 hours or until beans are very tender. Stir occasionally and add water if needed.
Remove about 1/3 of the beans, mash and return to pot. Stir and heat through.
Remove bay leaves and stir in vinegar or lemon juice when ready to serve.
Serve over rice. Garnish with sliced pimento and lemon wedges.

Yield: 6 servings--Serving Size: 8 oz

Good for your heart and all that.

Any suggestions on how to cook with out boiling simmering for hours on end?

Sprouting seems to offer some help...

Ingredients
Serves 6

1/4 cup olive oil
1 1/2 cups onion - chopped
4 cloves garlic - minced
1 sweet pepper (any or all colors) - chopped
3 cups Black Bean sprouts
2 cups Brown Rice Sprouts
3/4 cup water
1/4 tsp. cayenne pepper
1 bay leaf
1/2 tsp. white pepper
1 tsp. salt
1/4 pound smoked ham or sausage (optional)


Preparation

In a large pan heat 2T olive oil - when hot, saute half of the onion, garlic bell pepper, salt, and seasoning peppers. When tender add the Black Bean and Rice Sprouts along with the bay leaf and water. Mix well.
Cover and cook over low heat for 45 minutes or until beans are tender.

Meanwhile.
Heat the remaining 2T olive oil in another pan and saute the meat product lightly. Add the remaining veges and cook until you’re happy.
Serve the meat saute over the beans + rice.
Serve Hot


Even leftovers seem to be a good deal for another meal
http://chefinyou.com/2010/04/black-bean-burgers-recipe/


Thanks for the post, now I'm digging into different recipes...
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby KnightoftheRoc » Tue May 08, 2012 11:42 am

One thing I seldom see listed with the rice and beans is oats, or oatmeal. As a dry good, it stores the same as beans or rice, and for as long. It's easy to flavor as you like- I store the plain oatmeal, and then flavor it at cooking time. A big favorite is maple flavoring, and adding some maple syrup as a part of the water requirement (1 cup syrup replaces 1 cup of water) works great. Chunks of fresh or dried fruit work, too. It's a good, solid breakfast to get fueled up for the day with, and dead simple to make.

My food storage preps are geared more toward the General Store type of things you'd see on Little house on the Prairie- sugar, flour, oats, rice, beans- the things I need to make what I want. I honestly think the best prep a kitchen can have is a good cookbook. with the basics covered, you can make a wide variety of foods from the same materials, but with widely different tastes, which helps prevent boredom with food. We stock the largest containers of spices we can find, so things like beans can be spruced up a bit with things like chili powder, for example. Ginger, curry, chili powder- so many options that work well with rice, you could write a cookbook just on that. Also, stock several types of beans- not sure if it's everyone generalizing, but I don't see too many posts that list different types of dry beans as food storage items.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby TacAir » Tue May 08, 2012 12:49 pm

KnightoftheRoc wrote:One thing I seldom see listed with the rice and beans is oats, or oatmeal. As a dry good, it stores the same as beans or rice, and for as long. It's easy to flavor as you like- I store the plain oatmeal, and then flavor it at cooking time. A big favorite is maple flavoring, and adding some maple syrup as a part of the water requirement (1 cup syrup replaces 1 cup of water) works great. Chunks of fresh or dried fruit work, too. It's a good, solid breakfast to get fueled up for the day with, and dead simple to make.

My food storage preps are geared more toward the General Store type of things you'd see on Little house on the Prairie- sugar, flour, oats, rice, beans- the things I need to make what I want. I honestly think the best prep a kitchen can have is a good cookbook. with the basics covered, you can make a wide variety of foods from the same materials, but with widely different tastes, which helps prevent boredom with food. We stock the largest containers of spices we can find, so things like beans can be spruced up a bit with things like chili powder, for example. Ginger, curry, chili powder- so many options that work well with rice, you could write a cookbook just on that. Also, stock several types of beans- not sure if it's everyone generalizing, but I don't see too many posts that list different types of dry beans as food storage items.


Good point, we store wheat - to make flour (yes, we have a mill). Rice, beans, oatmeal and dried corn - for cornmeal - with honey, sugar and baking powder for cooking. Also non-fat, non-instant dry milk. We also keep a lot of cans of Ro-Tel type tomatoes and other spicy things.

Eating the same things day after day can be boring, that is an issue in itself - a problem for any long term storage planning. Spices (generally) have a two year shelf life. We keep pepper corns, sea salt and ground black pepper in bulk, but items like Cinnamon will quickly be missed.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby TheFishinMagician » Tue May 08, 2012 4:03 pm

My favorite combo is yellow rice and blackeyed peas. Nuthin' finer, by damn! 8-)
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby duodecima » Tue May 08, 2012 7:39 pm

KnightoftheRoc wrote:Also, stock several types of beans- not sure if it's everyone generalizing, but I don't see too many posts that list different types of dry beans as food storage items.

I have a lot of beans, 8 kinds, actually. Split peas, lentils, pintos, black, navy, great northern (OK, so those 2 have a lot in common), dry blackeyed peas, and garbanzos. I have snagged a couple pounds of small reds to try red beans & rice, if I work that into a PAW recipe I'll put the small reds up as well. I should add some kidney beans for even more variety but nobody here likes them at the moment. Soy beans would make a lot of sense - but I live in the middle of soybean country, they'll be available locally.

Ditto grains - rice, wheat, oatmeal, but also quinoa, buckwheat, and popcorn. Eventually I'll add a little millet. (Pasta's not a whole grain, but it still stores well.)

I'm planning on using bean flour to thicken gravy&soup, could also be added to bread to add protein and stretch my wheat. Bean puree can replace oil/shortening in baking - it changes some recipes noticeably (brownies, cookies) but wasn't noticeable in cornbread.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby ZombieGranny » Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 pm

Stock all the different kinds and colors you can get your hands on...
Different beans have different nutritional values.
Two charts with the nutritional values of different varieties of beans.

http://commonsensehealth.com/Diet-and-N ... ries.shtml
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/artic ... rotein.php
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby dustytomes » Tue May 08, 2012 8:23 pm

For some reason I can't cook beans. No matter how long I soak 'em they are always crunchy. :cry:
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby Blitzen2k5 » Tue May 08, 2012 8:56 pm

Soaking beans over night? Must be a yankee thing. I learned to cook beans from my grandmother. The amount of time she soaked them was the time it took to carry them from the sink to the stove.

EDIT: Oh and where is the pork? Cant have a good mess of beans without the fatback or bacon.

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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby KnightoftheRoc » Tue May 08, 2012 10:42 pm

dustytomes wrote:For some reason I can't cook beans. No matter how long I soak 'em they are always crunchy. :cry:

My mom's recipe for beans- almost impossible to screw up.
Fill pot with beans and water, bring to boil on stove. Boil for one hour, then remove from heat. Let them sit covered as long as you need to (she started them in the morning if time allowed), and then just re-heat for dinner time. Perfect beans every time. No overnight soaking, no noticeable increase in the fart factor, and she didn't have to spend all day on them. If you add meat to your beans, do that at the start- the flavor will mix better the longer it sits.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby duodecima » Tue May 08, 2012 10:48 pm

KnightoftheRoc wrote:
dustytomes wrote:For some reason I can't cook beans. No matter how long I soak 'em they are always crunchy. :cry:

My mom's recipe for beans- almost impossible to screw up.
Fill pot with beans and water, bring to boil on stove. Boil for one hour, then remove from heat. Let them sit covered as long as you need to (she started them in the morning if time allowed), and then just re-heat for dinner time. Perfect beans every time. No overnight soaking, no noticeable increase in the fart factor, and she didn't have to spend all day on them. If you add meat to your beans, do that at the start- the flavor will mix better the longer it sits.

How old are the crunchy beans? If they're ancient sometimes they never do tenderize (altho pressure cooking can really help old beans along...). But they should at least be slightly tough and a little mealy, not crunchy... Long low heat works well for beans. If they're boiled sometimes they split, which is no big deal if you're doing refried or burritos or something where the beans are going to get mashed up anyway.

Try lentils, they're really easy. Or split peas.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby KentsOkay » Tue May 08, 2012 10:54 pm

Blitzen2k5 wrote:Soaking beans over night? Must be a yankee thing. I learned to cook beans from my grandmother. The amount of time she soaked them was the time it took to carry them from the sink to the stove.

EDIT: Oh and where is the pork? Cant have a good mess of beans without the fatback or bacon.

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I've always learned to cook dry beans by soaking them overnight.


I guess I need to learn to flavor my beans more :lol:

I was eating them plain as kind of a "survival challenge"

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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby Blitzen2k5 » Tue May 08, 2012 11:55 pm

KentsOkay wrote:
Blitzen2k5 wrote:Soaking beans over night? Must be a yankee thing. I learned to cook beans from my grandmother. The amount of time she soaked them was the time it took to carry them from the sink to the stove.

EDIT: Oh and where is the pork? Cant have a good mess of beans without the fatback or bacon.

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I've always learned to cook dry beans by soaking them overnight.


I guess I need to learn to flavor my beans more :lol:

I was eating them plain as kind of a "survival challenge"


No worries. I was only joking with you on soaking them. There are hundreds of different ways to prep and cook beans. I learned one way and you learned another. Its all good. Long as you enjoy them do it your way. If you dont soak them you have to cook them longer. For my grandmother cooking was a bonding experience. So when she set up the pot of beans we would do other things as well.... You know? Bond. Tend the garden, work on things around the farm, etc.

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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby Dawgboy » Wed May 09, 2012 12:30 am

I keep a variety: Black beans, red beans, Pintos, Peruanos. Also make lentils all the time. Black eyed peas are in the cupboard too as they like the lentils, they don't need soaking.

I also buy wild rice I mix 4 to 1 with brown rice. the kids devour that. I have been known to throw Pearled barley in the chili as the texture is a lot like ground beef. Try that out for a meal extender.

Here is a favorite at my house:

South Indian Lentil Dal with fresh Raita

Lentils:

You can have this recipe and feed 4 with no leftovers(ever)

1 Large white onion, finely chopped
1 big carrot, finely chopped
1 red pepper roasted, peeled and finely chopped
4 Fresh Serrano Chilies, again, finely chopped If you don't like scalding temps, toss the seeds. (Remember to vigorously rub your eyes right after this part...) :evil: Or, wear gloves...
4 cups dried red lentils
2 cans Coconut milk
1 tsp Cayenne Pepper
2 TBSP ground Cumin
2 TBSP ground Coriander
2 TBSP ground Ginger
1 tsp ground Cardamom pods
2 tsp black pepper
1 TBSP black Mustard seed
4 tsp salt
2 TBSP Sesame seeds
half a stick of butter or Ghee
water to the top of pan.

In a deep and heavy pot melt the butter and add the onion. cook on high until clear, 3 minutes or a little more. Add the other chopped veggies and the Serrano chillies. saute until its all soft, about 10 minutes, stirring constantly. Add the sesame seeds and mustard seeds and stir. Add all other spices except salt and stir until everything is well coated. It should be very aromatic at this point, and sizzling. turn to low heat. add the lentils and stir until coated in the mix, add the 2 cans of Coconut milk and stir. Add water until there is at least a couple inches above the top of all the good stuff. Turn to very low heat and simmer for an hour. Check often to add water.

Raita
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Take yogurt and dump it in a bowl. squeeze all the lemon juice into it.
peel the cuc. and grate it with a cheese grater into the yogurt. Chop the cilantro leaves finely, getting some of the stems, but not all. Dump in the bowl and stir well. Set aside.

When the lentils are done, serve it with flat bread and a big dollop of the Raita right in the middle.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby Weaver » Fri May 11, 2012 4:34 pm

KnightoftheRoc wrote:One thing I seldom see listed with the rice and beans is oats, or oatmeal. As a dry good, it stores the same as beans or rice, and for as long. It's easy to flavor as you like- I store the plain oatmeal, and then flavor it at cooking time. A big favorite is maple flavoring, and adding some maple syrup as a part of the water requirement (1 cup syrup replaces 1 cup of water) works great. Chunks of fresh or dried fruit work, too. It's a good, solid breakfast to get fueled up for the day with, and dead simple to make.


On the subject of oats, they can also be used to make oatcake, of which there are several varieties all of which being made and eaten by poor/working class northern Brits as a staple of their diets until the latter part of the 19th century. Here's a few recipes:

Scottish oatcake:

225g (2½ cups/8 oz) medium oatmeal, plus extra for dusting
1.25ml (¼ tsp) bicarbonate of soda
1.25ml (¼ tsp) salt
15ml (1 tbsp) unsalted butter or lard

Method

Preheat the oven to 180°C/fan 160°C/350°F/gas mark 4. Put the oatmeal, bicarbonate of soda and salt into a bowl and mix well. Heat the butter and 150ml (3/4 cup/5 oz) water in a small pan until the butter melts.
Make a well in the centre of the oatmeal mix, pour in the liquid and use a palette knife to mix everything together. The mixture will initially seem a bit wet, but the oatmeal will gradually absorb all the liquid to give a soft dough.
Lightly dust a clean work surface with oatmeal. Tip out the dough, then roll out to about 5mm thick. Use a small round cutter to stamp out the oatcakes or use your favourite shapes. Re-roll any trimmings and continue to cut out the biscuits. (Cut biscuits can be frozen uncooked, for up to a month. Freeze flat before packing into bags or boxes.)
Brush off any excess oatmeal, then space the oatcakes over 2 baking sheets. Bake for about 20 minutes, carefully turning the oatcakes every 5 minutes or so to stop them from steaming and going stodgy. When cooked they should be crisp and lightly golden. Lift onto a wire rack and leave to cool. (Will keep in an airtight container for up to 5 days.)

Staffordshire oatcake:

8oz fine oatmeal
8 oz white bread flour
Either a tablespoon of dried milk powder, or a bit more of melted bacon fat or even lard
2 teaspoons of dried yeast
1 teaspoon of sugar

Mix all the above and incorporate a bit less than a pint of lukewarm water – until a stiff pancake batter has been formed. Leave covered for at least 30 minutes and up to 90. When about to cook add more water to get a looser batter consistency, add a half-teaspoon of salt, or up to a spoonful if you prefer. Don’t add the salt until about to cook, or the yeast will struggle. Cook, aiming for about twice the thickness of a normal pancake, on an oiled bakestone or frying pan, turning so both sides are done. Makes about fifteen.

Derbyshire oatcakes:

To make 4 oatcakes:

8 oz fine oatmeal
8 oz wholewheat or plain flour
1/2 oz tsp salt
1/2 oz yeast
approx 11/4 pts warm milk and water mixed
1/2 tsp sugar

1. Add salt to the flour and oatmeal.
2. Dissolve the yeast with a little of the warm milk and water and add the sugar.
3. Wait for it to become frothy then pour into the dried ingredients, gradually adding the rest of the milk and water, beating well to form a thin batter.
4. Cover with a cloth and rest for half an hour until the mixture is well risen.
5. Cook on a greased and heated griddle or frying pan. Cook for about 4 minutes on each side, turning when the upper side appears dry and the underside is golden.

They will keep for 2 to 3 days, can be warmed up in a frying pan and freeze well.

Lancashire Oatcakes

Ingredients

450g/1lb fine oatmeal (you can grind regular oatmeal in a food processor if you wish)
2 tsp instant, dried, yeast
2 tsp sugar
2 tsp salt
1 dessert spoon oil
1.5l/ 2.5 pints warm water (approx) - hand hot, no warmer

Method

1. Combine the oatmeal, yeast, sugar, salt and oil in a large bowl. Form a well in the centre and add just over half the water. Stir to combine then keep adding water until it resembles a pancake-like batter.
2. Heat and lightly oil a frying pan then add one cup of the batter and cook for about four minutes per side. Set aside to cool as you finish cooking the remaining batter. Either use immediately or dry to make ‘hard’. The oatcakes will keep a few days in the fridge and they freeze well.

It should be noted that I found a few different recipes for each variety so I think that they're one of those things where every family had their own method for making them and that they would be fairly forgiving if you had to alter the ingredients a bit in order to use what you have available.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby ninja-elbow » Mon May 21, 2012 12:05 pm

Thais use black, red, or even pinto beans mixed with sticky rice and coconut as a desert. I've had it a hundred times but never made it . I'll see if I can find a link here...

http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2010/11/ ... press.html

You can do the above (and I've had it this way) in foil. Just need to steam it. Regular rice, though not as fun to eat with fingers, works. That is just one version. I've had sweet rice porridge with balck beans before and it is delicious if you like coconut and/or banannas.
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby LowKey » Tue May 22, 2012 4:47 am

ninja-elbow wrote:Thais use black, red, or even pinto beans mixed with sticky rice and coconut as a desert. I've had it a hundred times but never made it . I'll see if I can find a link here...

http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2010/11/ ... press.html

You can do the above (and I've had it this way) in foil. Just need to steam it. Regular rice, though not as fun to eat with fingers, works. That is just one version. I've had sweet rice porridge with balck beans before and it is delicious if you like coconut and/or banannas.

Had some yesterday, still as yummy as you remember it. :mrgreen:
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby ninja-elbow » Fri May 25, 2012 4:02 pm

The little Thai joint in the food court downstairs from m office, when they had different owners, served blackbeans and sticky rice on the menu. I gained about 5 pounds when that was there. New owners make "American-Thai" now so it's all ketchup and noodles.

I'm also remembering some desert with corn inside sticky rice inside a bananna leaf? It was a looooong time ago. Am I remembering that right Lowkey?
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby LowKey » Fri May 25, 2012 5:00 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:The little Thai joint in the food court downstairs from m office, when they had different owners, served blackbeans and sticky rice on the menu. I gained about 5 pounds when that was there. New owners make "American-Thai" now so it's all ketchup and noodles.

I'm also remembering some desert with corn inside sticky rice inside a bananna leaf? It was a looooong time ago. Am I remembering that right Lowkey?

Sounds like a Thai snack/dessert, but I haven't eaten all of them yet :lol:
I'm guessing sticky rice, coconut milk, and corn...yes? Wrapped up and steamed?
I've has similar, but with substitutions for the corn. All of which are guaranteed to make me gain weight :gonk:


Is it just me, or is there a bit of irony in you asking me about Thai food? :lol:
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Re: A different take on rice and beans

Postby Cazo » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:27 am

I have been thinking about adding some bulk rice and beans to my food stores, but it occurred to me that the long cooking time could be a huge issue in a grid down event. It would take a lot of fuel to cook something everyday for 3-4hours. Any thoughts on faster cooking or perserving batches in grid down(hot humid climate like Texas)??
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