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1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:59 pm

Hello, ZS! Welcome to the world of Box.

I like boxy vehicles. I think they're the best body style that you wind up with for form-follow-function philosphy, and as such usually boxy vehicles are pretty useful.

As an example of this, my daily driver (and up to now, weekend BOV as well) has been a 1999 Jeep Cherokee. It's a box. On wheels.

The only issue I have with it, is while it has great off-road capability, I'd like a little bit more, and i'd also like a lot more room for stuff to bring with me.

Bringing More Stuff is obvious. Get a bigger box.

Getting better off-road capability should also be obvious: get more wheels.

Let us combine the two!

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Thats better.

Pleased to introduce you to the 1975 Volvo Cross-Country C-304, TGB-13.

It's happy to see you, too.

The Volvo C-304 is a three axle, six-wheel-drive truck, with locking differentials on all 3 portal axles.

What is a portal axle, you say? A portal axle is where the axle shaft sits above the centerline of the wheels, and has geared reduction housings at either ends which drop down for the wheels to bolt to.

What are the advantages to this?

Number one, it makes the axles considerably stronger due to the reduction gearing, Number two:

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A whole lotta clearance.

It currently runs about 20 inches of clearance to the differentials.

It is also a cab-forward vehicle, putting the driving position in front of and over the engine. This provides a great deal of space inside, as well as fantastic forwards visibility.

Interior-wise, it's great. You have the driver and passenger cab up front,

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with a five-passenger crew area just behind that,

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And a cavernous cargo area behind that.

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This has a great deal of potential, and i'll be posting tear down/build up updates on this as I go along.

Currently, I've replaced the steering wheel, and was able to test drive it a bit. There's a good amount of smoke, which appears to be an oil/fuel mix, Likely the rings are worn out and the carbs need some love. Other than that, it drove pretty well so far.
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Braxton » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:25 pm

How in the hell did you find that monster? :shock:


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There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby JTNieman » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:47 pm

oh god. I've had a boner of wanting to try out a Deuce and a Half but wow... that thing is pretty awesome.

What are parts availability like on those? That's one reason the M35 was an attractive thing for me..
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:37 pm

Pretty poor at the moment but with hopes of improving, a small swedish company just bought the rights to the entire volvo tgb series, the entire parts warehouse (what little there was), the contract/contact info for all of the subcontractors that ever made parts, and all of the plans, tooling, etc.

An example of poor parts availability is the steering wheel. The previous owner of mine decided to hack apart the original wheel and cast his own, made specially for him.

he was very, very short.

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It doesn't show it well, but this wheel is 3" lower than the original stock one. And he installed taller seats, closer to the front. The end result, I couldn't physically lift my leg high enough to press the brake pedal.

Ok, so just get a replacement wheel, right?

None in existance. Anywhere.

Adapter?

Nothing fits (and I blew $300 trying to find one that did)

Ok, so what the hell can you do?

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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby JTNieman » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:43 pm

LOL

Gotta love it. I'm a machinist by trade, again, so I can appreciate it. That doesn't mean I want to have to resort to doing it that way... lol, but yea.. I'd just stick to the hopes that the Swedes help out the market haha.

Looks good, looks good. I'm totally envious of that badass cargo APC.
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Regular Guy » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:47 pm

Wow. That is very cool. God I want something like that. So Spartan.
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby NonExistence » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:11 pm

Hell yes! I would love to have a boxy BOV like that! Hopefully I will see you cruising around in it sometime when I find myself in your neck of the woods.
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Vanniek71 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:25 am

Doccers has me on the search for a Volvo C303 (its a bit smaller than that one, and only a 4x4)

My unicorn:

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Doccers I can't wait to swing by and see that thing in person!
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby RonnyRonin » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:48 am

that is so hot...

tell me about the power plant, I assume diesel?
horse power and MPG?
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:26 am

Vanniek71 wrote:Doccers has me on the search for a Volvo C303 (its a bit smaller than that one, and only a 4x4)

My unicorn:

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Doccers I can't wait to swing by and see that thing in person!


By the way Vannie, That's a C202, the predecessor to the 303. Much smaller and a bit more underpowered. :D
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:27 am

RonnyRonin wrote:that is so hot...

tell me about the power plant, I assume diesel?
horse power and MPG?



Volvo B30A Inline-6 cylender GASOLINE engine, about 120hp, 180 ft-lbs of torque.

It is reliable as all hell, and as it's a points system it's EMP-proof, but I'm not sure if I want to keep it or swap in a diesel with similar numbers...
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Dawgboy » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:45 am

I have a friend with the 202. He swapped in a late model Volvo inline 6 with fuel injection, and it will climb walls. Very slow and bumpy on the freeway though. Good luck on your buildout!
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Vanniek71 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:07 am

Doccers wrote:
By the way Vannie, That's a C202, the predecessor to the 303. Much smaller and a bit more underpowered. :D


Lol that guy with that pic had his own car wrong then!


And thats perfect, come to find out the C202 is a little easier and cheaper to find...I'm STOKED!
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:26 am

Dawgboy wrote:I have a friend with the 202. He swapped in a late model Volvo inline 6 with fuel injection, and it will climb walls. Very slow and bumpy on the freeway though. Good luck on your buildout!


Yep, I'm not sure if I want to swap in a later B30 with fuel injection, just leave it as is, or swap in a diesel and new transmission... For this winter I'm leaving it as-is, something tells me Colorado's going to get slammed this winter (2 years of little snow usually means "PREPARE FOR SNOWPOCALYPSE") , and make those decisions next year after driving it around a bit.
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Vanniek71 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:28 am

Vanniek71 wrote:
Doccers wrote:
By the way Vannie, That's a C202, the predecessor to the 303. Much smaller and a bit more underpowered. :D


Lol that guy with that pic had his own car wrong then!


And thats perfect, come to find out the C202 is a little easier and cheaper to find...I'm STOKED!


and by a little easier I mean I found 2 for sale instead of 0 lol
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Jacob Creutzfeldt » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:39 pm

Oh, the memories! :shock:

I've spent a couple of months in one of these during my military service. The cargo compartment full of ATGMs and AT mines. :twisted:
But you forgot to show the roof hatch with the AA-MMG mount! I couln't find a picture of the AA-mount on a TGB-13, but here's one on the big brother TGB-20 (witouth the MMG): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... uselang=sv

While looking for pics I found a Swedish site about these (and other) vehicles, with manuals etc. http://www.terrangbil.net/info.asp?category=27
There's a forum, I'm sure you can get help in English if you need http://forum.terrangbil.net/forum_topic ... b-11-13-20
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby NonExistence » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:31 am

Doccers wrote:
Yep, I'm not sure if I want to swap in a later B30 with fuel injection, just leave it as is, or swap in a diesel and new transmission... For this winter I'm leaving it as-is, something tells me Colorado's going to get slammed this winter (2 years of little snow usually means "PREPARE FOR SNOWPOCALYPSE") , and make those decisions next year after driving it around a bit.



Man, remember that especially nasty blizzard like 4 or 5 years back? The snow accumulated right at my front door because of the direction my house faced, we had to jump out the window if we didnt shovel every hour or so, and all 3 vehicle in my home were inoperable. Would have loved to have one of these crazy Volvos, and still would.
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:27 am

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She runs!

(and somehow I shot it in low quality! I didn't even know my phone did low quality... guess I'll have to do it again next weekend...)
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby FrANkNstEin » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:13 pm

That things Badass!

Do you have any special plans for the cargo area, or are you gonna leave it as is?
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:39 pm

For the cargo area, I want to install some storage bins in the very back, and a couple of pull-out convertible bench seats that can turn into beds along each side for camping in. Storage is going to be really tight however, so I may adjust my plans as I go along...

Right now i'm just getting it fully operational for winter, as I suspect Colorado's going to get slammed this year, and putting off the major rebuild until the spring, when I should have plenty of cash saved up to do it right. :)
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby FrANkNstEin » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:20 am

Sounds great!

Last time i thought about something similar, but smaller (think Volkswagen Bus) i came up with an idea:

A free floating bed hanging from the ceiling via steel cables and that can be pulled up tight against said ceiling when not in use. Made so it can be adjusted to any hight above cargo that you need currently. (always with the option that part of the cargo would be unloaded while camping, or could be put into the the front while it´s not in use)

That way, cargo could stay loaded up to a certain point and the "bed" floats above it.

An Aluminium Frame with canvas as the "mattress" might be the way to go because it´d be lightweight. (think folding doublewide field/camping bed)

It might or might not need to have some kind of indexing bolts in the ceiling to prevent it from swaying around too much, banging against the hulk or scratching away the paint. The sturdier it´s stored away, the merrier i think but maybe i´m overcautious.

I want to try something like this if i happen to find a VW T3 Syncro, or something like your Volvo although a 6x6 would be way too much for me. I just don´t have enough room to keep lots of different cars around so a 6x6 is way down the list.

So this hasn´t been tried and tested by me for now! I thought i´d still toss out the idea, maybe it´s something you could utilize...
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Vanniek71 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:50 pm

so my question is have you slept either

in it
next to it
with a picture of it



Cause I would have several times by now if I had that in front of my house lol :lol:
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby FrANkNstEin » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:38 pm

Gotta agree with Vanniek! :lol:

BTW: is that Thomas Vanek in your avatar?!
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Re: 1975 Volvo BOV

Postby Doccers » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:12 pm

No, I have not slept in it yet. :)

I'm also going to start tracking down an M101 trailer for it, then extend the cargo bed a bit forward and aft to fit the girlfriend's KLR 650, a hoist, toolboxes, generator and gas cans. :)

An M105 trailer would be nice, but, it's heavier than I'd like, and the 101 is the same width as the truck, whereas a 105 is a foot wider.
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